Life without religion.

[Joie the Tool]

Is this possible? If I believe in God and follow his rules, and try to be as good as I can, can I still be saved?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Life without religion.

Is this possible? If I believe in God and follow his rules, and try to be as good as I can, can I still be saved?

Giving gang signs isn't "trying to be as good as you can be."

And if you had ever read the Bible, you would know that God sees your "good works" as "filthy rags."

Unless you are Saved(c) through Grace, you are as hellbound as any sodomite or wetback.

[Joie the Tool]

Re: Life without religion.

Giving gang signs isn't "trying to be as good as you can be."

And if you had ever read the Bible, you would know that God sees your "good works" as "filthy rags."

Unless you are Saved© through Grace, you are as hellbound as any sodomite or wetback.

So if someone expresses any type of hand posture in a pic is a gang sign to you?

Read this.

The obvious teaching of the Bible is that acts of virtue and goodness are pleasing to God. He does not view them as filthy, unless they are done with false intentions (cp. Matt. 6:2). In fact, God was pleased with
Cornelius' alms, even before that man was converted to Christ (Acts 10:4). This alone should negate the popular application of Isaiah 64:6.

Amazingly, the preceding verse in the book of Isaiah teaches the exact opposite of the common interpretation of "filthy rags." Listen to the prophet: "You [the Lord] meet him who rejoices and does righteousness" (Isa. 64:5). Genuine works of righteousness, says Isaiah, are valuable; God meets us when we walk in them. Are we told the opposite thing one verse later? That hardly seems reasonable.

Jesus taught that God will reward even small works, such as giving a child a cup of water (Matt. 10:42). Our Lord commands us to let our good deeds "shine before men," that they might glorify the Father (Matt. 5:16). Paul writes that we are "created in Christ Jesus unto good works" (Eph. 2:10).

Then grace it is.

[JennyD]

Re: Life without religion.

Man cannot be Saved(c) by good works.

However, a Saved(c) man will evidence his Salvation(c) through his good works.

The only way to Heaven is through Jesus. You must believe in Him and His Sacrifice, and you must repent of your sins. That means you have to sincerely apologize once you realize that your ogling of Japanese tentacle porn (or "anime", as they call it) at 4chan hurts Him, and then you must never do it again. Or any other sin.

How could you sin, knowing that God made Himself into human form, so He could sacrifice Himself to Himself, so He could allow Himself to change His Covenant with His Creation?

Only an evil monster could continue to sin after knowing the Love of Jesus.

[Joie the Tool]

Re: Life without religion.

Man cannot be Saved© by good works.

However, a Saved© man will evidence his Salvation© through his good works.

The only way to Heaven is through Jesus. You must believe in Him and His Sacrifice, and you must repent of your sins. That means you have to sincerely apologize once you realize that your ogling of Japanese tentacle porn (or "anime", as they call it) at 4chan hurts Him, and then you must never do it again. Or any other sin.

How could you sin, knowing that God made Himself into human form, so He could sacrifice Himself to Himself, so He could allow Himself to change His Covenant with His Creation?

Only an evil monster could continue to sin after knowing the Love of Jesus.

Thanks Jenny. That was a wonderfull reply.

Ezekiel(asshole) needs to go away.

[JennyD]

Re: Life without religion.

Ezekiel(a**hole) needs to go away.

"Ezekiel(a**hole)" is a Pastor at Landover, and an administrator of this forum. You may wish to reconsider your comment in light of this fact, assuming you want to retain posting privileges for any length of time.

[Joie the Tool]

Re: Life without religion.

"Ezekiel(a**hole)" is a Pastor at Landover, and an administrator of this forum. You may wish to reconsider your comment in light of this fact, assuming you want to retain posting privileges for any length of time.

Well he was being rude.

[JennyD]

Re: Life without religion.

Well he was being rude.

He was being forceful, as the passion of Christ's Love moves him, in his desire to see you turned from the fires of Hell.

But, even if he were being rude, do two wrongs make a right?

[Epic_Dud]

Re: Life without religion.

He was being forceful, as the passion of Christ's Love moves him, in his desire to see you turned from the fires of Hell.

But, even if he were being rude, do two wrongs make a right?

Obligatory "three lefts do"


I think there should be a conference on what both sides of the evangelical fence feel is forceful or not. Believe it or not, being 'forceful' and 'passionate' about Christ is going to work against you more than for you. For example, The Government can't just come out and do something that more than half the populace doesn't believe in or is half-committed to. No, they have to slowly work them up to fanaticism. Or do it at Gunpoint. I wouldn't suggest you guys use guns though...Obama will take them away from the rest of us if some (and I'm quoting a DHS report) "Radical Right Wing Extremists" go around evangelizing at gunpoint.

[Shinigami]

Re: Life without religion.

Obligatory "three lefts do"


I think there should be a conference on what both sides of the evangelical fence feel is forceful or not. Believe it or not, being 'forceful' and 'passionate' about Christ is going to work against you more than for you. For example, The Government can't just come out and do something that more than half the populace doesn't believe in or is half-committed to. No, they have to slowly work them up to fanaticism. Or do it at Gunpoint. I wouldn't suggest you guys use guns though...Obama will take them away from the rest of us if some (and I'm quoting a DHS report) "Radical Right Wing Extremists" go around evangelizing at gunpoint.

I accepted your friend request on the notion that I could make you see some truth in Christianity and get over the internet crap. It is not good to live one's life without Jesus since life is so sad without him. religion is not what is needed. You need to have a relationship with Jesus to have peace in your life. No religion is part of that relationship and only faith in Jesus.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Life without religion.

Obligatory "three lefts do"


I think there should be a conference on what both sides of the evangelical fence feel is forceful or not. Believe it or not, being 'forceful' and 'passionate' about Christ is going to work against you more than for you. For example, The Government can't just come out and do something that more than half the populace doesn't believe in or is half-committed to. No, they have to slowly work them up to fanaticism. Or do it at Gunpoint. I wouldn't suggest you guys use guns though...Obama will take them away from the rest of us if some (and I'm quoting a DHS report) "Radical Right Wing Extremists" go around evangelizing at gunpoint.

I'm just curious about something; Do you flutter around the internets forcing your unsaved opinions on other Christian forums? Do you imagine that any True Christian™ wants to hear what you think? You have never even read the Holy Bible, much less understood it.

God commands us to stay clear of unsaved scum. It's in the Bible, so you can look it up. Our church has a large banner out front that proudly proclaims "UNSAVED = UNWELCOME" and we mean it, Praise Jesus. So feel free to bugger off.





Joie boi, you need to straighten up and fly right. Disrespecting a True Christian™ Pastor will not get you any closer to Salvation, I can promise you.

Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters, and to please them well in all things.--Titus 2:9

[Warped Devin]

Re: Life without religion.

I accepted your friend request on the notion that I could make you see some truth in Christianity and get over the internet crap. It is not good to live one's life without Jesus since life is so sad without him. religion is not what is needed. You need to have a relationship with Jesus to have peace in your life. No religion is part of that relationship and only faith in Jesus.

What do you guys think of this posters name? It is the Japanese pronunciation of a Pokemon! And as we all know, Pokemon is evil and anti-Christian. So what will happen to him?

[Joie the Tool]

Re: Life without religion.

What do you guys think of this posters name? It is the Japanese pronunciation of a Pokemon! And as we all know, Pokemon is evil and anti-Christian. So what will happen to him?

He will catch you with his Poke'Ball.

[adosdrummer]

Re: Life without religion.

He will catch you with his Poke'Ball.

I lol'd so hard at that!

[adosdrummer]

Re: Life without religion.

I'm just curious about something; Do you flutter around the internets forcing your unsaved opinions on other Christian forums? Do you imagine that any True Christian™ wants to hear what you think? You have never even read the Holy Bible, much less understood it.

God commands us to stay clear of unsaved scum. It's in the Bible, so you can look it up. Our church has a large banner out front that proudly proclaims "UNSAVED = UNWELCOME" and we mean it, Praise Jesus. So feel free to bugger off.





Joie boi, you need to straighten up and fly right. Disrespecting a True Christian™ Pastor will not get you any closer to Salvation, I can promise you.

unsaved=unwelcome is not the works of Jesus
that is the work of satan!