[John Winchester]

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Do you listen to yourself? We are talking about GOD here.A being of pure love and righteousness.Do you actually believe that such a being would curse somebody? The only thing that can curse is a devil and you are slowly proving what you are.

[angels]

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Being "sweet and fluffly" to sinners is called mercy, Jesus HIMSELF has shown it to many sinners.Do you defy the acts of Jesus?

So you think then, by pretending that it's ok to Sin is ok?.
That by the people here not being truthful and saying sweet things will make Sinners happy instead of repenting is a good thing?.
Or. Is it not better to be straight talking and tell Sinners exactly what will happen if they don't turn to God. NOW. Before it's too late.

[angels]

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Do you listen to yourself? We are talking about GOD here.A being of pure love and righteousness.Do you actually believe that such a being would curse somebody? The only thing that can curse is a devil and you are slowly proving what you are.

Oh please tell me what I am?.

[Meek and Humble]

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Who said anything about flipping and parts that i don't like? I just asked that question to understand why she did not understand my logic a few posts back.And moving on, if you say people have turned away from God and do not like/hate/judge them for that ... it simply means that you are against God's creations... thus going against Him.And please do not give me a reply saying that "everyone who turns from him is not considered a worthy creation" because if that were true, God would not have given man free will.

Personally I don't believe in free will (read Romans chapter 9), but assuming that we do have that. Do you recall what God does to those people who "choose" to do evil?

[John Winchester]

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Wait a second angelz that reply about "what you really are" was adresed to Portway. And for you, do not misunderstand i never said that anyone should sin but if someone sinned you need to show him mercy, give him a second chance to repent thats what i meant.And here is where it gets interesting, the only person you can repent to is God and Jesus therefore only They give you that second chance.You do not need to repent your sins to this forum, only to God and you can do that alone because He watches over you the whole time.You do not need this forum to tell you what your sins are because you know them very well.Realise your independance and the fact that God is not somewhere outside but within yourself and Awaken.

[angels]

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Wait a second angelz that reply about "what you really are" was adresed to Portway. And for you, do not misunderstand i never said that anyone should sin but if someone sinned you need to show him mercy, give him a second chance to repent thats what i meant.And here is where it gets interesting, the only person you can repent to is God and Jesus therefore only They give you that second chance.You do not need to repent your sins to this forum, only to God and you can do that alone because He watches over you the whole time.You do not need this forum to tell you what your sins are because you know them very well.Realise your independance and the fact that God is not somewhere outside but within yourself and Awaken.

Oh I apologise John, I thought that comment was directed at me.
Did you read what I wrote?. I have Sinned big time, people here have shown me mercy, I repent every day, I read my Bible, ask for The Lords forgiveness, and pray for him to show me mercy.
BUT without the guidance and help from my family here, I'd still be deluded and thinking the way I lived my life was perfectly fine, when infact I was breaking every single law set out by God himself.

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

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Do you listen to yourself? We are talking about GOD here.A being of pure love and righteousness.Do you actually believe that such a being would curse somebody? The only thing that can curse is a devil and you are slowly proving what you are.

Proof positive you've never actually read the Bible. Are you surprised to learn you're an agent of Satan, or is it a role you took on freely?

To save you some time, take a look...

http://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=curse&qs_version=9

[John Winchester]

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And yet I am here talking about here about God and yet the poster above me is acusing me of being an agent of satan.Angelz you only need to know what God's teachings are, the real teachings not the ones that contradict each other.When that happens you won't need for other people to show you mercy, you will only need God. Just you and God.It is a very beautiful feeling when you reach that state but you need to set your priorities straight.

I think that the true religion is the religion that brings peace and harmony to yourself and to the world not one that makes you fight with others make you isolate yourselfs from others by saying "they are satan because they do not agree with me". A religion that brings fear of God (if you sin) and freedom at the same time.

[angels]

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And yet I am here talking about here about God and yet the poster above me is acusing me of being an agent of satan.Angelz you only need to know what God's teachings are, the real teachings not the ones that contradict each other.When that happens you won't need for other people to show you mercy, you will only need God. Just you and God.It is a very beautiful feeling when you reach that state but you need to set your priorities straight.

I think that the true religion is the religion that brings peace and harmony to yourself and to the world not one that makes you fight with others make you isolate yourselfs from others by saying "they are satan because they do not agree with me". A religion that brings fear of God (if you sin) and freedom at the same time.

John, I think I understand what you are saying, but please try and understand, I owe so much to my family here, more than anyone could possibly know. Without them my outlook on life would be so very different. My priorities before were selfish and one sided. Basically I only cared for myself, no one else. I claimed to love God and understand The Bible. But I didn't. I only saw what I wanted to see.
Now, I am changing, my life, my views even my friends. They weren't and are not true friends.
So you see, although I'm not very good (yet) at understanding The Bible, I am learning everyday. The people here are Good folks.
And nobody forces anyone else to do anything, it is harmony John.
By the way in my mind, I would never enter a strangers house, tell them they are wrong, insult them and upset them. But you would be amazed at how many people come here to do just that. I find that rude and ignorant.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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And yet I am here talking about here about God and yet the poster above me is acusing me of being an agent of satan.Angelz you only need to know what God's teachings are, the real teachings not the ones that contradict each other.When that happens you won't need for other people to show you mercy, you will only need God. Just you and God.It is a very beautiful feeling when you reach that state but you need to set your priorities straight.

I think that the true religion is the religion that brings peace and harmony to yourself and to the world not one that makes you fight with others make you isolate yourselfs from others by saying "they are satan because they do not agree with me". A religion that brings fear of God (if you sin) and freedom at the same time.

You are a blasphemer.

Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division.--Luke 12:51

[John Winchester]

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John, I think I understand what you are saying, but please try and understand, I owe so much to my family here, more than anyone could possibly know. Without them my outlook on life would be so very different. My priorities before were selfish and one sided. Basically I only cared for myself, no one else. I claimed to love God and understand The Bible. But I didn't. I only saw what I wanted to see.
Now, I am changing, my life, my views even my friends. They weren't and are not true friends.
So you see, although I'm not very good (yet) at understanding The Bible, I am learning everyday. The people here are Good folks.
And nobody forces anyone else to do anything, it is harmony John.
By the way in my mind, I would never enter a strangers house, tell them they are wrong, insult them and upset them. But you would be amazed at how many people come here to do just that. I find that rude and ignorant.

If you understand that is fine enaugh.But heed my words: The Bible can be rewriten so that man can manipulate man through it.That is how so many religions have been formed and so many fight's have started.But there was once one religion from wich all have appeared and if you try and think deeply... all religions have something in common and that is God.Weather we call him God, or Alah or whatever... He is the one and the same.And how do you recognise him?Well it's simple:through the deeds of righteousness thats how you know who is God and who is satan.And I shall tell you why others come here and mock you, it is not because of the religion itself, it's because of how the people react to it.I mean here with the slightest and most insignificant mistake you are called a satanist, you start with the rank of "unsaved trash".The superiors here are arogant and judge everybody.Instead of welcoming anyone and acting in a mature way ...even with thouse who mock, you cast them away... you make them think religion is something bad.

That is all i had to say, if you have anymore questions... speak freely.

[John Winchester]

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You are a blasphemer.

Oh yeah? Exactly how am I a blasphemer if I believe in God and follow His rules? You do the same... does that mean you are a blasphemer aswell?

[angels]

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If you understand that is fine enaugh.But heed my words: The Bible can be rewriten so that man can manipulate man through it.That is how so many religions have been formed and so many fight's have started.But there was once one religion from wich all have appeared and if you try and think deeply... all religions have something in common and that is God.Weather we call him God, or Alah or whatever... He is the one and the same.And how do you recognise him?Well it's simple:through the deeds of righteousness thats how you know who is God and who is satan.And I shall tell you why others come here and mock you, it is not because of the religion itself, it's because of how the people react to it.I mean here with the slightest and most insignificant mistake you are called a satanist, you start with the rank of "unsaved trash".The superiors here are arogant and judge everybody.Instead of welcoming anyone and acting in a mature way ...even with thouse who mock, you cast them away... you make them think religion is something bad.

That is all i had to say, if you have anymore questions... speak freely.

I really don't see this Forum in the same way you do. It's not a debate forum, but a place to talk about Jesus Christ. People who come here just to mock, are not interested in being saved, they make that very clear. I've read posts from the Pastors and Rev. Jim welcoming folk here.
As for unsaved trash. Everyone gets that at first.
And who makes people think religion is bad?. Where has anybody here given that impression?.

[John Winchester]

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I really don't see this Forum in the same way you do. It's not a debate forum, but a place to talk about Jesus Christ. People who come here just to mock, are not interested in being saved, they make that very clear. I've read posts from the Pastors and Rev. Jim welcoming folk here.
As for unsaved trash. Everyone gets that at first.
And who makes people think religion is bad?. Where has anybody here given that impression?.

If this is a forum to talk about Jesus Christ, how would you feel if you are seen by everyone as an "unsaved trash" NO ONE has the right to call the creations of God trash.And as for the part where you guys make religion seem bad well it's simple.The way the pastors make everyone who disagrees with them a satanist,the arrogance in the air... i mean for God's sake i post a reply about God, peace and harmony and the ezekyel here gives it a status of something hateful... i don't get it.The way they claim they are the true Christian's.Want me to prove they're arrogance? look at the moto for the site it says "Where the worthwhile worship.Unsaved Unwelcome". Where do I even begin? Well first of all how do they know that the person they didn't even talk to is unsaved, second you said that everyone is welcome.... from what it says above i seriously doubt that.

[Professor Bessemer]

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Mr. Winchester, you do not seem completely ignorant nor do I believe you are a Godless atheist, which makes your strange belief in a God that is, as you called Him "A being of pure love and righteousness" all the more confusing.

Here are a few verses from the KJAV 1611 Bible, showing where God does not simply love everyone regardless of their actions:


Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;

And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.

But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.
Genesis 19:24-26


And when the people complained, it displeased the LORD: and the LORD heard it; and his anger was kindled; and the fire of the LORD burnt among them, and consumed them that were in the uttermost parts of the camp.

And the people cried unto Moses; and when Moses prayed unto the LORD, the fire was quenched.
Numbers 11:1-2



Understand therefore, that the LORD thy God giveth thee not this good land to possess it for thy righteousness; for thou art a stiffnecked people.

Remember, and forget not, how thou provokedst the LORD thy God to wrath in the wilderness: from the day that thou didst depart out of the land of Egypt, until ye came unto this place, ye have been rebellious against the LORD.

Also in Horeb ye provoked the LORD to wrath, so that the LORD was angry with you to have destroyed you.
Deuteronomy 9:6-8

God loves those that follow his Word. His Word is the entire KJAV 1611 Bible. As others here have stated, we follow the whole KJAV 1611 Bible. If you disagree with us, you disagree with God.