[John Winchester]

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Mr. Winchester, you do not seem completely ignorant nor do I believe you are a Godless atheist, which makes your strange belief in a God that is, as you called Him "A being of pure love and righteousness" all the more confusing.

Here are a few verses from the KJAV 1611 Bible, showing where God does not simply love everyone regardless of their actions:


Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;

And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.

But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.
Genesis 19:24-26


And when the people complained, it displeased the LORD: and the LORD heard it; and his anger was kindled; and the fire of the LORD burnt among them, and consumed them that were in the uttermost parts of the camp.

And the people cried unto Moses; and when Moses prayed unto the LORD, the fire was quenched.
Numbers 11:1-2



Understand therefore, that the LORD thy God giveth thee not this good land to possess it for thy righteousness; for thou art a stiffnecked people.

Remember, and forget not, how thou provokedst the LORD thy God to wrath in the wilderness: from the day that thou didst depart out of the land of Egypt, until ye came unto this place, ye have been rebellious against the LORD.

Also in Horeb ye provoked the LORD to wrath, so that the LORD was angry with you to have destroyed you.
Deuteronomy 9:6-8

God loves those that follow his Word. His Word is the entire KJAV 1611 Bible. As others here have stated, we follow the whole KJAV 1611 Bible. If you disagree with us, you disagree with God.

A good point indeed but i do not disagree with the Bible, here is where you misunderstand me... I disagree with the way you see the Bible.Have you ever stopped to consider that God did all that destruction out of love so that the people would learn they're lesson from they're mistakes? Even through those deeds he helped humanity understand where they have gone wrong if he did not love the humans he would have destroyed everyone not just thouse particular spots.And here is another thing, only they're bodies were destroyed but we cannot say the same about they're souls because the soul is a part of God and is immortal.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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A good point indeed but i do not disagree with the Bible, here is where you misunderstand me... I disagree with the way you see the Bible.Have you ever stopped to consider that God did all that destruction out of love so that the people would learn they're lesson from they're mistakes? Even through those deeds he helped humanity understand where they have gone wrong if he did not love the humans he would have destroyed everyone not just thouse particular spots.And here is another thing, only they're bodies were destroyed but we cannot say the same about they're souls because the soul is a part of God and is immortal.

Please post the Scripture that says our souls are "part of God." That sounds like hippie new age blasphemy to me, pal.

Do you imagine that God doesn't hate at all? Which false Christian church brainwashed you?

[Levi Jones]

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A good point indeed but i do not disagree with the Bible, here is where you misunderstand me... I disagree with the way you see the Bible.Have you ever stopped to consider that God did all that destruction out of love so that the people would learn they're lesson from they're mistakes? Even through those deeds he helped humanity understand where they have gone wrong if he did not love the humans he would have destroyed everyone not just thouse particular spots.And here is another thing, only they're bodies were destroyed but we cannot say the same about they're souls because the soul is a part of God and is immortal.

The LORD would not punish the innocent. He never does.

12Is it nothing to you, all ye that pass by? behold, and see if there be any sorrow like unto my sorrow, which is done unto me, wherewith the LORD hath afflicted me in the day of his fierce anger. 13From above hath he sent fire into my bones, and it prevaileth against them: he hath spread a net for my feet, he hath turned me back: he hath made me desolate and faint all the day. 14The yoke of my transgressions is bound by his hand: they are wreathed, and come up upon my neck: he hath made my strength to fall, the LORD hath delivered me into their hands, from whom I am not able to rise up. 15The LORD hath trodden under foot all my mighty men in the midst of me: he hath called an assembly against me to crush my young men: the LORD hath trodden the virgin, the daughter of Judah, as in a winepress.

[John Winchester]

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Please post the Scripture that says our souls are "part of God." That sounds like hippie new age blasphemy to me, pal.

Do you imagine that God doesn't hate at all? Which false Christian church brainwashed you?

A God that hates? Sorry mister but the only thing that hates is the devil, hate is the darkest of emotions... what you said ... that God hates is a blasphemy to all the people on this forum who pray to God for forgiveness. Let me tell you something...if God could hate... would humanity be here after all they sinned? NO everything would have been destroyed.Hate and forgiveness are two very very different things and if you believe God can hate then that means you are worshiping the devil. FOR ONLY THE DEVIL CAN HATE. And if God can hate he would not punish the innocent.And for the scriptures, read the pslams if you are smart enaugh to understand them.

[Levi Jones]

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A God that hates? Sorry mister but the only thing that hates is the devil, hate is the darkest of emotions... what you said ... that God hates is a blasphemy to all the people on this forum who pray to God for forgiveness. Let me tell you something...if God could hate... would humanity be here after all they sinned? NO everything would have been destroyed.Hate and forgiveness are two very very different things and if you believe God can hate then that means you are worshiping the devil. FOR ONLY THE DEVIL CAN HATE. And if God can hate he would not punish the innocent.And for the scriptures, read the pslams if you are smart enaugh to understand them.

I'm not sure my heart can take reading this insanity. If you had ever bothered to read The Word©, you would know that is patently false.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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A God that hates? Sorry mister but the only thing that hates is the devil, hate is the darkest of emotions... what you said ... that God hates is a blasphemy to all the people on this forum who pray to God for forgiveness. Let me tell you something...if God could hate... would humanity be here after all they sinned? NO everything would have been destroyed.Hate and forgiveness are two very very different things and if you believe God can hate then that means you are worshiping the devil. FOR ONLY THE DEVIL CAN HATE. And if God can hate he would not punish the innocent.And for the scriptures, read the pslams if you are smart enaugh to understand them.

You have obviously never read the Holy Bible.

God doesn't love everybody:

Proverbs 6
[16] These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
[17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
[18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
[19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

And don't give me any "He hates the sin, not the sinner" crap...

Matthew 13
[38] The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
[39] The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
[40] As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
[41] The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
[42] And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

[John Winchester]

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You have obviously never read the Holy Bible.

God doesn't love everybody:




And don't give me any "He hates the sin, not the sinner" crap...

Well from what I can tell there doesn't seem to be any entry where God says clearly that he hates man and let's not forget, anything can sin...even angel's.Lucifer who was an angel sinned and fell and became the devil and yet has shown his greatest enemy mercy by not killing him for all this time.

[John Winchester]

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Well from what I can tell there doesn't seem to be any entry where God says clearly that he hates man and let's not forget, anything can sin...even angel's.Lucifer who was an angel sinned and fell and became the devil and yet has shown his greatest enemy mercy by not killing him for all this time.

edit:Lucifer who was an angel sinned and fell and became the devil and yet God has shown him, his gratest enemy mercy by not killing him for all this time. Sorry I am a bit distracted

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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edit:Lucifer who was an angel sinned and fell and became the devil and yet God has shown him, his gratest enemy mercy by not killing him for all this time. Sorry I am a bit distracted

Satan whispering in your ear faster than you can type?

[John Winchester]

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Satan whispering in your ear faster than you can type?

Oh yeah, I'm sure satan's greatest plan is to make me tell you things that are exact his opposide (God)

[John Winchester]

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Listen, I am tired of arguing and know that it was never my intention to bring my beliefs upon you, If i made you misunderstand then I apologyse.I just wanted to leave a message and can I please ask 1 last thing out of the kindness of your hearts?

[John Winchester]

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The thing i ask is that this thread should not be deleted or modified.Why? Simple... if you guys truly think that the power of your scriptures are right then you do no need to waste your time on these "unsaved conversations" that might like to call.But should you delete and and edit this thread, one could assume you were afraid of what i have said and try to counceal this from the others in order for them to believe in you.There are people who have seen these original conversations so even if you do try to delete or edit, questions and doubt will rise.So the choice is yours.

Best of luck to you all

May God and his Son Jesus Christ and The Holy Spirit guide and watch over you.

[James Hutchins]

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I just read this thread. There is five minutes of my life pissed away. I should just read a aquaw1 thread instead.

[Meek and Humble]

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A good point indeed but i do not disagree with the Bible, here is where you misunderstand me... I disagree with the way you see the Bible.Have you ever stopped to consider that God did all that destruction out of love so that the people would learn they're lesson from they're mistakes? Even through those deeds he helped humanity understand where they have gone wrong if he did not love the humans he would have destroyed everyone not just thouse particular spots.And here is another thing, only they're bodies were destroyed but we cannot say the same about they're souls because the soul is a part of God and is immortal.

Buddy, have you ever even TOUCHED a Bible?

Matthew 10: 28And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.