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  • #31
    Re: Why Protestant Stooges Are NOT Christians!

    Very well, I won't copy-paste, but that article does a pretty exhaustive job of explaining why Peter was most definitely in Rome. Allow me one quote from it at least, though: “Here’s a point on which we can point to the lies of Catholic claims,” they say. “Catholics trace the papacy to Peter, and they say he was martyred in Rome after heading the Church there. If we could show he never went to Rome, that would undermine—psychologically if not logically—their assertion that Peter was the first pope. If people conclude the Catholic Church is wrong on this historical point, they’ll conclude it’s wrong on the larger one, the supposed existence of the papacy.” Such is the reasoning of some leading anti-Catholics.

    How about this - the Bible itself actually says Peter was in Rome:

    1 Peter 5: 13The church that is at Babylon, elected together with you, saluteth you; and so doth Marcus my son.

    At the end of his first epistle, Peter mentions he is at the church in Babylon. In the New Testament, Babylon is a codeword for Rome. The ancient city of Babylon had been destroyed by this point.

    How about all those writings by early Christians that state Peter went to Rome and was martyred there, and that he appointed the Bishop of Rome as his successor?

    Tertullian wrote in 200AD that Peter died in Rome, and that Clement, a priest Peter ordained, succeeded him as the head of the church of Rome (Clement was the fourth pope).

    Clement wrote in a letter from 70AD that Peter died in Rome.

    Ignatius of Antioch wrote in 110AD that Peter had been the leader of the church in Rome.

    Irenaeus wrote in 190AD that Peter evangelized and founded the church in Rome, and that Linus (the second Pope) succeeded him, and then Anacletus (the third pope) and the Clement of Rome.

    In the beginning of the third century, Clement of Alexandria wrote that Peter preached in Rome.

    Lactantius wrote in 318AD that Peter went to Rome and founded the church there.

    This is just a sampling. There is no evidence of any early writings that tell of Peter dying anywhere else. Every known early writing that refers to the location of his death cites it as being in Rome.

    In the mid-20th century, an excavation of St. Peter's Basilica on Vatican Hill discovered a tomb, the inscription stating the remains of the person there was indeed the Apostle Peter.

    Biblical evidence, historical testimony, actually physical proof of his tomb in Rome, what more do you want?
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    • #32
      Re: Why Protestant Stooges Are NOT Christians!

      I could not have seen this coming!!
      Originally posted by Jimmy Peter
      How about this - the Bible itself actually says Peter was in Rome:
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      1 Peter 5: 13The church that is at Babylon, elected together with you, saluteth you; and so doth Marcus my son.

      At the end of his first epistle, Peter mentions he is at the church in Babylon. In the New Testament, Babylon is a codeword for Rome. The ancient city of Babylon had been destroyed by this point.
      Yet, you play down the Whore of Babylon prophecy that has been repeatedly pointed out to you!

      Originally posted by Jimmy's small Peter
      How about all those writings by early Christians that state Peter went to Rome and was martyred there, and that he appointed the Bishop of Rome as his successor?
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      Tertullian wrote in 200AD that Peter died in Rome, and that Clement, a priest Peter ordained, succeeded him as the head of the church of Rome (Clement was the fourth pope).
      Tertullian's works were found in fragments, yet your church accepts them. You don't believe in the supposed gnostic texts of Judas Iscariot and Mary Magdelene, do you, heretic? I didn't think so.

      Originally posted by Jimmy's 3 inch Peter
      Clement wrote in a letter from 70AD that Peter died in Rome.
      According to Turdtullian.

      Originally posted by Jimmy's MicroPeter
      Ignatius of Antioch wrote in 110AD that Peter had been the leader of the church in Rome.
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      More papist lies. The leader of the Church in Antioch, according to your source.

      [/QUOTE=Jimmy's tiny eween]Irenaeus wrote in 190AD that Peter evangelized and founded the church in Rome, and that Linus (the second Pope) succeeded him, and then Anacletus (the third pope) and the Clement of Rome.
      \

      [/QUOTE]
      Irenanus is burning in hell for all eternity. Truly, satan's own agent.

      Originally posted by Jimmy's butt demons
      In the beginning of the third century, Clement of Alexandria wrote that Peter preached in Rome.
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      Citation Needed Still looks like Alexandria, which was destroyed by Papists.
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      • #33
        Re: Why Protestant Stooges Are NOT Christians!

        You know what? I'm going to give Jenni a thumbs up for NOT chronically misunderstanding everything that is said here.
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        • #34
          Re: Why Protestant Stooges Are NOT Christians!

          Originally posted by Levi Jones View Post
          I could not have seen this coming!!


          Yet, you play down the Whore of Babylon prophecy that has been repeatedly pointed out to you!
          I don't downplay it, I just don't happen to believe it refers to the Catholic Church.


          Tertullian's works were found in fragments, yet your church accepts them. You don't believe in the supposed gnostic texts of Judas Iscariot and Mary Magdelene, do you, heretic? I didn't think so.
          We don't claim Tertullian is inspired, but in historical research it is customary to assume writings are true unless there is great evidence to the contrary. Those gnostic gospels make extraordinary claims that are unsupported by other texts, whereas Tertullian is supported by a long tradition.



          According to Turdtullian.



          More papist lies. The leader of the Church in Antioch, according to your source.
          [/quote]

          Can't you read?

          [/QUOTE]

          Irenanus is burning in hell for all eternity. Truly, satan's own agent.
          Why is that?



          Citation Needed
          Still looks like Alexandria, which was destroyed by Papists.
          You want citations? Here they are, and some other ones that also support that Peter was in Rome:

          Ignatius of Antioch - Letter to the Romans 4:3 [A.D. 110]
          Dionysius of Corinth - Letter to Pope Soter [A.D. 170], in Eusebius, History of the Church 2:25:8
          Irenaeus - Against Heresies, 3, 1:1 [A.D. 189]
          ibid., 3, 3, 2
          ibid., 3, 3, 3
          Gaius - Disputation with Proclus [A.D. 198] in Eusebius, Church History 2:25:5
          Clement of Alexandria - Sketches [A.D. 200], in a fragment from Eusebius, History of the Church, 6, 14:1
          Tertullian - Demurrer Against the Heretics 36 [A.D. 200]
          ibid., 32:2
          Against Marcion 4, 5:1 [A.D. 210]
          The Little Labyrinth - [A.D. 211], in Eusebius, Church History 5:28:3
          Poem Against the Marcionites - 276–284 [A.D. 267]
          Eusebius of Caesarea - The Chronicle [A.D. 303]
          Peter of Alexandria - Penance, canon 9 [A.D. 306]
          Lactantius - The Deaths of the Persecutors 2:5 [A.D. 318]
          Cyril of Jerusalem - Catechetical Lectures 6:14 [A.D. 350]
          Optatus - The Schism of the Donatists 2:2 [A.D. 367]
          Epiphanius of Salamis - Medicine Chest Against All Heresies 27:6 [A.D. 375]
          Pope Damasus I - Decree of Damasus 3 [A.D. 382]
          Jerome - Lives of Illustrious Men 1 [A.D. 396]
          Augustine - Against the Letters of Petilani 2:118 [A.D. 402]

          Now, you please cite one early record that states that Peter never went to Rome, or that he died in any other location.
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          • #35
            Re: Why Protestant Stooges Are NOT Christians!

            Originally posted by James Peter View Post
            Your persecution and mockery of the late Holy Father only proves that he is a child of God.

            Why does your "Child of God" have 3 extra fingers protruding out of his right hand?

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            • #36
              Re: Why Protestant Stooges Are NOT Christians!

              Originally posted by Jenni111 View Post
              Why does your "Child of God" have 3 extra fingers protruding out of his right hand?

              The flames in the background are a nice touch
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              • #37
                Re: Why Protestant Stooges Are NOT Christians!

                You are easily amused, aren't you, woman?
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                • #38
                  Re: Why Protestant Stooges Are NOT Christians!

                  Originally posted by James Peter View Post
                  You are easily amused, aren't you, woman?
                  Well she is easily amused by YOU. You might want to take it as a compliment, since in that way you are at least providing some comic relief.
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                  Proverbs 27:17
                  Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.
                  Romans 1:20
                  For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
                  2 Timothy 2:15
                  Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Why Protestant Stooges Are NOT Christians!

                    Originally posted by James Peter View Post
                    You are easily amused, aren't you, woman?

                    Well, I'm starting to think; I'm using this forum too much.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Why Protestant Stooges Are NOT Christians!

                      Originally posted by David (not a Jew) View Post
                      Well she is easily amused by YOU. You might want to take it as a compliment, since in that way you are at least providing some comic relief.
                      I see you still have not provided any historical sources that state that Peter either never went to Rome or that he died anywhere else. Interesting...
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                      • #41
                        Re: Why Protestant Stooges Are NOT Christians!

                        Originally posted by James Peter View Post
                        I see you still have not provided any historical sources that state that Peter either never went to Rome or that he died anywhere else. Interesting...

                        Somewhere, there's a lonely alterboy that needs your immediate attention. Why don't you do the CHRISTIANS here a favor and do what comes naturally to a papist sodomite? In short, bugger the cathlyk boy, and leave us alone!!

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                        • #42
                          Re: Why Protestant Stooges Are NOT Christians!

                          That is absolutely disgusting. How do you sleep at night, you pervert?
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                          • #43
                            Re: Why Protestant Stooges Are NOT Christians!

                            Originally posted by James Peter View Post
                            That is absolutely disgusting. How do you sleep at night, you pervert?
                            Yes it is disgusting, as is everything else related to the cathlyk church. I'm not the pervert, you papist, mother worshiping heathen. You are. Pure and simple. Your entire sect of idolizers is full of rampant sodomizing pedophiles. As to how I sleep at night, I say my Baptist prayers to Jesus and sleep with no problem.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Why Protestant Stooges Are NOT Christians!

                              Originally posted by Jimmy's pubic hair he pisses out of

                              [B][I]

                              You want citations? Here they are, and some other ones that also support that Peter was in Rome:

                              Ignatius of Antioch - Letter to the Romans 4:3 [A.D. 110]
                              Dionysius of Corinth - Letter to Pope Soter [A.D. 170], in Eusebius, History of the Church 2:25:8
                              Irenaeus - Against Heresies, 3, 1:1 [A.D. 189]
                              ibid., 3, 3, 2
                              ibid., 3, 3, 3
                              Gaius - Disputation with Proclus [A.D. 198] in Eusebius, Church History 2:25:5
                              Clement of Alexandria - Sketches [A.D. 200], in a fragment from Eusebius, History of the Church, 6, 14:1
                              Tertullian - Demurrer Against the Heretics 36 [A.D. 200]
                              ibid., 32:2
                              Against Marcion 4, 5:1 [A.D. 210]
                              The Little Labyrinth - [A.D. 211], in Eusebius, Church History 5:28:3
                              Poem Against the Marcionites - 276–284 [A.D. 267]
                              Eusebius of Caesarea - The Chronicle [A.D. 303]
                              Peter of Alexandria - Penance, canon 9 [A.D. 306]
                              Lactantius - The Deaths of the Persecutors 2:5 [A.D. 318]
                              Cyril of Jerusalem - Catechetical Lectures 6:14 [A.D. 350]
                              Optatus - The Schism of the Donatists 2:2 [A.D. 367]
                              Epiphanius of Salamis - Medicine Chest Against All Heresies 27:6 [A.D. 375]
                              Pope Damasus I - Decree of Damasus 3 [A.D. 382]
                              Jerome - Lives of Illustrious Men 1 [A.D. 396]
                              Augustine - Against the Letters of Petilani 2:118 [A.D. 402]
                              Your sources are based on the writings that were in The Library of Alexandria, which was burnt to the ground by you papist dogs. Many of your "sources" are from the Church in Antioch. Somehow you managed to only preserve the fragments that support your argument, yet you don't accept the gnostic texts nor the Dead Sea scrolls.

                              Sorry, if I'm skeptical that your false church managed to preserve what was convenient to itself.

                              Sorry for engaging in debate, Pastors and TC's . If this papist troll is going to be allowed to spread his lies, they should be answered to the best of the abilities this neophyte Christian posseses.
                              Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.


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                              • #45
                                Re: Why Protestant Stooges Are NOT Christians!

                                Originally posted by James Peter View Post
                                I see you still have not provided any historical sources that state that Peter either never went to Rome or that he died anywhere else. Interesting...
                                Whether or not Peter went to Rome, he did not name his successor 'pope'. The title of 'pope' was yet another heretical creation of the catholic church, like the granting of indulgences and the existence of purgatory .
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                                And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

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