[Remy Lebeau]

Re: Why are New Age beliefs harmful?

I suppose it must seem that way, but I don't. No really, I don't. Seriously. I mean as much as you must hope I do, I just don't.......yet. And you won't necessarily know when I finally do because I may not volunteer it, so do feel free to ask.

Then how do you know that Satan and Hell aren't real if you aren't aware of everything in the universe? To say that something does not exist is a postive assertion. That means you have proof. Howw can you know something without direct evidence? Otherwise, you're just talking out of your arse. We Christians have direct evidence from Jesus, but you... you have nothing.

Perhaps you are mistaking your beliefs for actual facts. Do you mean to say that you personally have made the choice to not believe in Hell and Satan and not that you know there isn't a Hell or Devil?

[Robert Hutchins]

Re: Why are New Age beliefs harmful?

Brother Remy, I believe he is talking out of his ass. If only the demons inside would come out too.

[MirthMenace]

Re: Why are New Age beliefs harmful?

Then how do you know that Satan and Hell aren't real if you aren't aware of everything in the universe? To say that something does not exist is a postive assertion. That means you have proof. Howw can you know something without direct evidence? Otherwise, you're just talking out of your arse. We Christians have direct evidence from Jesus, but you... you have nothing.

Perhaps you are mistaking your beliefs for actual facts. Do you mean to say that you personally have made the choice to not believe in Hell and Satan and not that you know there isn't a Hell or Devil?

Remy, you, like so many Christians, operate under the assumption that beliefs are volitional. They are not. In the absence of meaningful, substantive evidence for the existence of anything, belief in that thing would be irrational at best. Thus it is for me when considering the notion of "Hell" or of "Satan" or that the Bible amounts to anything more than a collection of literature written by people who, in their entirety, thought the world was flat. It's not flat, by the way, Remy. That's just one more of the amazing collection of things I know and to which I alluded in an earlier post.

So, Remy, what makes your "belief" that "Satan" and "Hell" are real any more valid than my belief that they are not?

[JennyD]

Re: Why are New Age beliefs harmful?

You know, I want to pinch your cheek too, you little rapscallion! I know all I need to know of your Bible to be able to reasonably conclude that the god it portrays is not the sort of character I can imagine as my Creator. To be honest, the god it portrays too often acts with the same limitations with which we humans, the objects of "his" creation, are endowed.

My Creator is above all that.

How nice, you've made your own "Creator".

Tell me, does the clay get to design the potter, or the other way around?

Tell me, why is it if your imaginary creator is so wonderful, he hasn't fixed the Bible to say something different?

After all, if your imaginary friend is all-knowing, then he knows what the Bible says.

If he's all-powerful, he can change it.

He hasn't.

So, is your creator imaginary, or is he a sick weirdo who enjoys watching people kill each other over faith?

Or is God exactly as He says He is, in His Word?

The latter seems the far more sensible explanation.

[MirthMenace]

Re: Why are New Age beliefs harmful?

How nice, you've made your own "Creator".

How do you figure I've done that? The nature of OUR Creator is unknowable.

Tell me, does the clay get to design the potter, or the other way around?

I didn't design or create the Creator. You and I are the clay. Did you figure that out with help?

Tell me, why is it if your imaginary creator is so wonderful, he hasn't fixed the Bible to say something different?

Why do you refer to the Creator as my imaginary Creator? I don't imagine the Creator. The Creator just is. Why would the Creator have any interest whatsoever in the Bible over, say, the I Ching, for example. What do you think needs to be "fixed" in the Bible?

After all, if your imaginary friend is all-knowing, then he knows what the Bible says.

If he's all-powerful, he can change it.

He hasn't.

I can't see why the Creator should have a compelling interest in what the Bible says any more than in the content of the DesMoines phone book.

So, is your creator imaginary, or is he a sick weirdo who enjoys watching people kill each other over faith?

You can't honestly say you've never heard the exact same question applied to your version of "God".

Or is God exactly as He says He is, in His Word?

The latter seems the far more sensible explanation.

What does "God" say that "he" is in the book written by people who believed the earth was flat? How can you base your entire set of beliefs on something that "seems the far more sensible explanation" to some people and not to so many others?

As an aside, I have long wondered about the Judeo/Christian need to visualize their "God" in a masculine, paternal context. What need would "God" have of a specific gender? Does your "God" reproduce? If so, with whom? If not, then why would "God" have genitalia, such that "God's" gender could be discernible?

[Robert Hutchins]

Re: Why are New Age beliefs harmful?

God created Adam first, indicating that men were his first thought. Women were an afterthought. He ordered the writers of his Bible to address Him as "Father." We don't know exactly the specific appearance of God, but that is how a Godly man looks. Masculine and strong, loving and paternal. Deeply disciplined and disciplining of his children.

[MirthMenace]

Re: Why are New Age beliefs harmful?

[Robert Hutchins]

Re: Why are New Age beliefs harmful?

Is that you? I understand that you look distressed and confused. Indo-Homos like yourself can have that happen when confronted with the Word of the Lord.

Friends, note the questionable haircut and purple sweater in the background.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why are New Age beliefs harmful?

Is that you? I understand that you look distressed and confused. Indo-Homos like yourself can have that happen when confronted with the Word of the Lord.

Friends, note the questionable haircut and purple sweater in the background.

She looks like she's getting ready to cry. Doesn't that just turn your stomach?

[Robert Hutchins]

Re: Why are New Age beliefs harmful?

She looks like she's getting ready to cry. Doesn't that just turn your stomach?

Indeed, Pastor.

Is that a she or a he who thinks he's a she? These people confuse me. Excuse me, I have to go wash out that image with some good old fashioned Old Testament.

[Remy Lebeau]

Re: Why are New Age beliefs harmful?

Remy, you, like so many Christians, operate under the assumption that beliefs are volitional. They are not. In the absence of meaningful, substantive evidence for the existence of anything, belief in that thing would be irrational at best. Thus it is for me when considering the notion of "Hell" or of "Satan" or that the Bible amounts to anything more than a collection of literature written by people who, in their entirety, thought the world was flat. It's not flat, by the way, Remy. That's just one more of the amazing collection of things I know and to which I alluded in an earlier post.

So, Remy, what makes your "belief" that "Satan" and "Hell" are real any more valid than my belief that they are not?

An atheist speaking in ignorance. How typical. I don't believe in Jesus. I KNOW Jesus is real. There is physical proof that Jesus exists. Therefore, it is irrational to NOT believe in Jesus. People still use the term "four corners of the world" to this day. Do they believe the world is flat? In any case, how do you know that the world wasn't flat a few thousand years ago? Were you there?

Seeing as the existence of Jesus is an observable fact it is my faith in Him that dictates my belief in Hell and Satan. No different than the faith you put in the weatherman when it comes to the weather. Just because you don't like the fact that Jesus created man inherently contrary to everything He likes and you want to continue to follow your instinct like a dumb animal and sin without consequence doesn't mean you will be able to. The universe doesn't bend to your desires, sinner.

You need to let Jesus inside your heart, boy. Accept His unconditional love before He kills you and tortures you for all eternity for your finite actions her on Earth. Is all eternity really worth a handful of years disgracing yourself here on Earth? Do the math. It's illogical to deny Jesus.

[Endtimes Serpent]

Re: Why are New Age beliefs harmful?

you want to continue to follow your instinct like a dumb animal and sin without consequence doesn't mean you will be able to. The universe does bend to your desires, sinner.

Problem with doing what is natural?

[Levi Jones]

Re: Why are New Age beliefs harmful?

Problem with doing what is natural?

What are you some sort of furry?

Are you going to introduce yourself or go around posting in random threads on the fast track to the Holy Ban Hammer?

[Endtimes Serpent]

Re: Why are New Age beliefs harmful?

What are you some sort of furry?

Are you going to introduce yourself or go around posting in random threads on the fast track to the Holy Ban Hammer?

My apologise brother, thank you for telling me.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Why are New Age beliefs harmful?

My apologise brother, thank you for telling me.

With an avatar like that, I ain't your brother.