Originally posted by Catholic - Not ChristianView Post
So just asking....
How can you be so certain?
If you touch the King James Bible to your Pope fellating lips it will burn them.
Good enough proof for me.
Jud 1:15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are unGodly among them of all their unGodly deeds which they have unGodly committed, and of all their hard [speeches] which unGodly sinners have spoken against him.
The short answer is because of the superiority of the Textus Receptus version of the New Testament and the Masoretic Text of the Old Testament, from which the KJV was translated.
The longer answer is because it was inspired by the Holy Spirit and has survived the test of time. There was some apostate versions around the same time that the KJV1611 was commissioned, but they were so riddled with error it was apparent that they were the work of man and not of God. By the time that Alexander Cruden's "Complete Concordance to the Holy Scriptures" was printed in 1737, the KJV1611 had even supplanted the Vulgate. And in the nearly 300 years since, there has never been a need to look anywhere else for God to speak to us through His written Word.
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Proverbs 27:17 Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.
Romans 1:20
For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
2 Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
If you're interested, I have a sermon on the subject HERE entitled "Seven easy ways to tell the True Bible from the false ones." It's a real barn-burner!
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
And You that I was brainwashed. This has brainwash all over it. The only reason it gives for rejecting the Deuterocanon is that it is "satan's".
That's brainwash friend. I could easily draw up my own comic book and say how satan was at work with king james and his "authorized" perversion of God's Word. No, that's that a good enough reason for me.
Matthew 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
Why do people make translations after we have the KJV? I mean, it's written in English, which is sort of hard for those who speak American, like me, but it's as close as we can get, and I don't want to risk losing anything of God's word in translating it again. It's second generation to the texts, what more do you want?
Cling to your guns and religion. "Change" is here.
Ok a couple more questions...
So what about people that can't speak English? Should that really be a requirement to hear God's word? No where in the Bible does it say it must be read in English. And if your Solo King Jameso theory is true, does this not exclude unrightfully them from the kingdom? If not, then how do you suggest bringing the word do them? What about German Protestants, who have access to Luther's translation, which is older than the KJV? They are not likely to agree that an English translation is more authoritative than theirs or has some kind of divine approbation that theirs doesn't have.
And another question: What was so flawed about the Vaticanus manuscript? Besides that you say it is "satanic", which is an opinion, and I don't care for it.
Matthew 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
Why do people make translations after we have the KJV? I mean, it's written in English, which is sort of hard for those who speak American, like me, but it's as close as we can get, and I don't want to risk losing anything of God's word in translating it again. It's second generation to the texts, what more do you want?
A relevant question. Things can quite often get "lost in translation" which would be a worst-case scenario for the word of God. However, I can only offer the Catholic answer:
For example, the KJV can be a little difficult to understand having been written in Old English. Thus, it would be prudent for a more modern version to be written so that His Word can be brought to wider audience. As for losing anything, we believe that our Church is guided by the Holy Spirit, and that God would not allow His Word to be lost during this process. I understand that you believe us to not be guided by the Spirit, but in the same way you believe that God was with the translators that wrote the KJV, we believe he was with those that wrote the NAS for example. And if the need for another translation arose, we believe He would guide the translators in this case too.
This is not to say that we believe every Bible out there to be correct. They must be heavily scrutinized before receiving any kind of approval from the Church.
Matthew 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
To be honest, I doubt many foreigners get to Heaven.
Curiosity has me.
Why do you say this? People back in Jesus' time didn't even know America existed. They thought the world was flat in fact. So Jesus was in Jerusalem and it was largely that area around the Mediterranean that the Apostles preached, so why would Americans have a better understanding?
Matthew 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
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