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  • 'Grand exorcist' slams Harry Potter???

    Just when I thought I'd heard all the craziness people spew regarding Harry Potter, I come across the following article:

    From this link

    Pope Benedict XVI's chief exorcist, Rev. Gabriele Amorth, has called fictional wizard-in-training Harry Potter the "king of darkness, the devil."
    Amorth made the statement about the star of the best-selling children's series by British author J. K. Rowling during an interview with Vatican Radio during the week.


    "Magic is always a turn to the devil," said the Roman Catholic priest, according to Britain's Daily Mail newspaper.

    Amorth, who is also the president of the International Association of Exorcists, said the series contains many positive references to "the satanic art" of magic and makes no distinction between black and white magic.
    The Harry Potter series has sold more than 300 million copies worldwide and four of the books have been made into films.
    Chief exorcist?????


    So what do you land-ovarians think of this? Do you agree with the catholic view here?
    Do you have your own 'chief exorcist'?

    Honestly, all the problems and crime and corruption in the world and so many dum-dums worry about a CHILDREN'S BOOK?? People who think like that (like you people ) need to grow up get a life already.
    Last edited by Rachael Van Helsing; 04-30-2007, 05:53 AM.
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    Re: 'Grand exorcist' slams Harry Potter???

    Originally posted by Rachael Van Helsing View Post
    Just when I thought I'd heard all the craziness people spew regarding Harry Potter, I come across the following article:

    From this link

    Chief exorcist?????


    So what do you land-ovarians think of this? Do you agree with the catholic view here?
    Do you have your own 'chief exorcist'?

    Honestly, all the problems and crime and corruption in the world and so many dum-dums worry about a CHILDREN'S BOOK?? People who think like that (like you people ) need to grow up get a life already.
    I think that this skirt-wearing freak is probably desparately trying to distract attention from his cult's latest scandal. Harry Potter is a vile threat to children's souls, but the Catholic "church" is a vile threat to children's souls and rear ends. Just look at this: 'Amorth, who is also the president of the International Association of Exorcists, said the series contains many positive references to "the satanic art" of magic and makes no distinction between black and white magic.' Does the BIBLE make any distinction between black and white magic? No, of course not.

    Leviticus 20:27 A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.

    It doesn't say "is a bad wizard" or "who practices black magic"; all wizards are to be put to death, from the dullest tweenage Harry Potter fan to the arch-sorceror plotting away in the Vatican! Glory!

    O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



    God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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    • #3
      Re: 'Grand exorcist' slams Harry Potter???

      A harry potter fan isnt a whitch directly. He or she is merely a fiction addict.

      O, and though you have a realistic picture of the pope there, the thing he is using is refered to as "the force" and not "magic", its a starwars thing I beleve.

      And this is making the popularity of the catholic church decrease, and it also attacks the series. Its a win-win situation.
      I will never surrender to false beliefs!

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      • #4
        Re: 'Grand exorcist' slams Harry Potter???

        Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
        I think that this skirt-wearing freak is probably desparately trying to distract attention from his cult's latest scandal. Harry Potter is a vile threat to children's souls, but the Catholic "church" is a vile threat to children's souls and rear ends. Just look at this: 'Amorth, who is also the president of the International Association of Exorcists, said the series contains many positive references to "the satanic art" of magic and makes no distinction between black and white magic.' Does the BIBLE make any distinction between black and white magic? No, of course not.
        Hmm, I actually agree with you. Easy for the catholic church to try and draw attention away from their own atrocities by jumping on the 'let's slam a children's book!' bandwagon.
        And how long has there been an 'International association of exorcists'?


        It doesn't say "is a bad wizard" or "who practices black magic"; all wizards are to be put to death, from the dullest tweenage Harry Potter fan to the arch-sorceror plotting away in the Vatican! Glory!


        Well, I do wish people (including you guys!) would lay off Harry Potter books altogther. What astounds me is that they have no problem with their kids seeing movies with blood and gore, playing violent games on Xbox or PS2/3/whatever or PC, and yet Harry Potter, a kids book is unacceptable???
        Ridiculous.
        Last edited by Rachael Van Helsing; 04-30-2007, 12:48 PM.
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        • #5
          Re: 'Grand exorcist' slams Harry Potter???

          It is a little hypocrit, yeah. But that they think one is allright doesnt mean they think that way about the other as well.
          I will never surrender to false beliefs!

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          • #6
            Re: 'Grand exorcist' slams Harry Potter???

            He have his own exorcist? So they is admittin' he be possessed by demons? First they had claimed babies wasn't goin' to hell, now they admittin' they pope be demon possessed... maybe tomorrow they's gonna admit that they is pagan chile molestors!

            Originally posted by Lord Lucifer View Post
            A harry potter fan isnt a whitch directly. He or she is merely a fiction addict.
            You has been deceived. The Bible say:

            There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch. Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. - Deuteronomy 18:10-11

            Them Harry Potter books encourages ALL these things, as well as other Christ-hatin' practices. That witch who had wrote Harry Potter depict witchcraft as "cool" and "hip" and havin' all them chillrens in her book go to a school devoted to Satan where they learns about havin' orgies while simultaneously doin' depraved things to the Bible! So yes, if anybody be seekin' this sorta thang out as a form of entertainments, they do be considered a hellbound witch by the Bible's standards.

            Originally posted by Rachael Van Helsing View Post
            Well, I do wish people (including you guys!) would lay off Harry Potter books altogther. What astounds me is that they have no problem with their kids seeing movies with blood and gore, playing violent games on Xbox or PS2/3/whatever or PC, and yet Harry Potter, a kids book is unacceptable???
            Ridiculous.
            Of course you wants us to stop attackin' witchcraft. You probably wants us to join you in yo feasts on Christian babies as well, but it ain't gonna happen! Also, the Bible condone violence, but it do not condone witchcraft. I remember when that Passion of the Christ movie had came out and I took all my chillrens to see it. Oh, praise JESUS! That had been such a glurrious movie. I had been so impressed by that that I had took my youngest chillrens (ages 2-7 at the time) to see it every week that it had been in the theater. After every time we had seen it, they was just sittin' there with they eyes 'bout to pop out they heads, they mouths hangin' wide open... and of course, some of 'em was cryin' (no doubt because they love they Savior© so much). But oh, I had been so proud to know without a shadow of a doubt that them little ones had been saved at such a early age. PRAISE JESUS! Still, I wouldn't be caught dead takin' 'em to one of them depraved Harry Potter movies.
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            • #7
              Re: 'Grand exorcist' slams Harry Potter???

              Since Rowling is NOW killing off wizards in her books, isn't she doing the Lord's work?
              Maybe she could kill off a few Catholics in her new book, to kind of get back in the Lord's good graces?

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              • #8
                Re: 'Grand exorcist' slams Harry Potter???

                Originally posted by Rachael Van Helsing View Post
                Honestly, all the problems and crime and corruption in the world and so many dum-dums worry about a CHILDREN'S BOOK??

                Exactly what part of "fiction" do they not comprehend?

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                • #9
                  Re: 'Grand exorcist' slams Harry Potter???

                  Originally posted by Rachael Van Helsing View Post
                  Well, I do wish people (including you guys!) would lay off Harry Potter books altogther. What astounds me is that they have no problem with their kids seeing movies with blood and gore, playing violent games on Xbox or PS2/3/whatever or PC, and yet Harry Potter, a kids book is unacceptable???
                  Ridiculous.
                  You are simply an intolerant liberal, and liberals are vile fascists renowed for their hatred of free speech. You'd probably think that small children shouldn't even be forced to learn about stories like this, this and this in Sunday School!
                  O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



                  God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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                  • #10
                    Re: 'Grand exorcist' slams Harry Potter???

                    Originally posted by Sista Lateefah View Post
                    Them Harry Potter books encourages ALL these things, as well as other Christ-hatin' practices. That witch who had wrote Harry Potter depict witchcraft as "cool" and "hip" and havin' all them chillrens in her book go to a school devoted to Satan where they learns about havin' orgies while simultaneously doin' depraved things to the Bible! So yes, if anybody be seekin' this sorta thang out as a form of entertainments, they do be considered a hellbound witch by the Bible's standards.

                    I've read every one of the Harry Potter books. Not one of them mentions Satan, no one in them is having sex, and the Bible is not even mentioned, much less described as being desecrated.

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                    • #11
                      Re: 'Grand exorcist' slams Harry Potter???

                      Originally posted by Phoenix Risen View Post
                      I've read every one of the Harry Potter books. Not one of them mentions Satan, no one in them is having sex, and the Bible is not even mentioned, much less described as being desecrated.
                      This clearly proves either atheistic or satanic (which is in fact the same) nature of Harry Potter series.
                      Secularism(satanism in disguise) is as bad if not even worse than proper satanism, which Harry Potter is full of.
                      Last edited by tommy; 04-30-2007, 04:17 PM.
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                      • #12
                        Re: 'Grand exorcist' slams Harry Potter???

                        Originally posted by Phoenix Risen View Post
                        I've read every one of the Harry Potter books...
                        That tells us pretty much everything we need to know, doesn't it?
                        O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



                        God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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                        • #13
                          Re: 'Grand exorcist' slams Harry Potter???

                          Originally posted by tommy View Post
                          This clearly proves either atheistic or satanic (which is in fact the same) nature of Harry Potter series.
                          Secularism(satanism in disguise) is as bad if not even worse than proper satanism, which Harry Potter is full of.
                          Well said, Tommy!

                          Yes, Satan loves secularism more than overt Satanism!

                          Our soon-to-be-Saved friend Phoenix is wondering why, I'll bet.

                          Let's think about it:

                          If you promote Satanism, you acknowledge and indirectly promote God. After all, God created Satan; you can't have Satan without God. Therefore, people who worship Satan are in danger of realizing their error and coming to God through Jesus (the ONLY route, never mind all those Catholics trying to pray to Scary Mary!).

                          If you promote secularism, saying neither Satan nor God exists, then Satan wins! His goal is to get people to turn their backs on God. If the people believe that God is some imaginary "Sky Daddy" voyeur, a dime-store imitation of Santa Claus, then they will go to Hell, and that makes Jesus cry!! Just like Satan wants!

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                          • #14
                            Re: 'Grand exorcist' slams Harry Potter???

                            If you promote secularism, saying neither Satan nor God exists, then Satan wins
                            What if someone believes that God exists, but not Satan?

                            no one in them is having sex
                            ...but have you read the fanfics?

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                            • #15
                              Re: 'Grand exorcist' slams Harry Potter???

                              Originally posted by SinisterPizza View Post
                              ...but have you read the fanfics?

                              I don't read fanfic. Although there is a friend of a friend who has done some interesting sketches of Harry and Ron - but none of that is in the book, which Lateefah claimed it was.

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