Re: Why are Lutherans a cult
They shall never perish.As long as they believe and are baptized. This scripture says nothing about falling out of faith; it does not address this issue here. As previously addressed we can fall out of the faith. Maybe you should read the bible.
"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." Mark 16:16
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Re: Why are Lutherans a cult
Originally posted by LCMSLutheran View PostSo you reject that if you leave the faith you still go to heaven? That's pretty scripture twisting because I thought the Bible said that those who do not believe stand condemned...Learn to read what's written (both here and in the Bible), please.
Originally posted by Pastor Billy-Reuben View Post...Seeker: I thought they did believe in eternal security? I just thought they went through some stupid 12 step program at the age of 12 to get saved?
No. They believe that a person once saved, can fall from grace. According to the Bible, that's just not so.
John 10:28-29:
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Romans 11:29: For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
Pastor Billy-Reuben
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WAIT WAIT WAIT WAITHOLD UP FOR A MINUTE
Lutherans do not believe that the wafer becomes the body, and the wine becomes the blood. we believe that the body is in and with the bread and the blood is in and with the wine. Matthew 26:26, "And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body."
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So you reject that if you leave the faith you still go to heaven? That's pretty scripture twisting because I thought the Bible said that those who do not believe stand condemned."He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." Mark 16:16
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Re: Why Lutherans are a cult
Originally posted by Schnack View PostI'm also a biologist but I'm sure you all looked at my profile to figure that one out
And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.
I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.
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I wish you all a nice day, and hopefully I "burn" in the hell you think I'm going to
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Originally posted by Schnack View PostHe's not correcting God, he's explaining his word
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I have one question for all of you. If you think the internet is bad, why do you use it for your forum?
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Originally posted by Schnack View PostHe's not correcting God, he's explaining his word
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He's not correcting God, he's explaining his word
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I'm also a biologist but I'm sure you all looked at my profile to figure that one out
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Originally posted by Schnack View PostI'm a devout lutheran and I am not afraid to say it. I'm also not a kid. None of you understand the meaning of gods word, and none of you understand that all real christians, (not this baptist shit) will go to heaven as long as they believe that jesus is their saviour and died on the cross for their sins, and the fact of the triune god. I'm not going to go into detail but read Luthers Catechism if you want to learn about my religion. OH, and Catholics are going to heaven too
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;
but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 7:21
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it;
and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them:
and they were judged every man according to their works.
Revelation 20:13
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Revelation 22:12
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
Matthew 12:36-7
For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels;
and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
Matthew 16:27
And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life;
and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
John 5:29
Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
James 2:21
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ;
that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
2 Corinthians 5:10
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I'm a devout lutheran and I am not afraid to say it. I'm also not a kid. None of you understand the meaning of gods word, and none of you understand that all real christians, (not this baptist shit) will go to heaven as long as they believe that jesus is their saviour and died on the cross for their sins, and the fact of the triune god. I'm not going to go into detail but read Luthers Catechism if you want to learn about my religion. OH, and Catholics are going to heaven too
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Your ranting is hard to follow, person.
This is a website devoted to the love of Jesus and God's word.
What ever do you mean?
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you are all so ignorant as to disregard the truth of God's word. you are all hopeless. so stuck in your ways that you can't even think for yourselves anymore
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