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Exclamation READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US! - 08-31-2007, 10:53 AM

So you've just discovered this site and you're about to type up a flame accusing us of being "fringe" or "extremist", or asking if we're serious about what we say. Fine. but read this first:

We are just another group of republicans, with just another republican website with just another republican forum.

The difference is that we say exactly what we mean. Other conservative groups try to look "centrist" and "politically correct". A lot of republicans say "I was just joking" when someone gets all politically correct on them. (They weren't, they just know how to make PC commies shut up.) There is no self-censorship in Landover Baptist Church. The moderators in this forum believe in freedom of speech (for republicans), and when they do edit something they at least let people know that they did. This is different from other forums.

And that is where the differences between us and other republicans END.

So you want to troll us? Why don't you go troll the hundreds of millions of other people who agree with us?

Instead of harassing us for speaking honestly, why don't you talk to the hundreds of millions of other people who agree with us but are more secretive/less honest about their opinions?

The number of Americans who are evangelical, charismatic or conservative Christians now exceeds 100 million. That's 100,000,000.

"Protestant mega-churches [such as Landover Baptist] are spreading exponentially. There are now 850 in America. They each have congregations of more than 2,000 and a combined total of 3 million. John Vaughan, whose organisation Church Growth Today monitors and encourages their expansion, says a new mega-church appears in America every four days." - The Guardian, UK

Most Americans believe the nation's founders wrote Christianity into the Constitution, and people are less likely to say freedom to worship covers religious groups they consider extreme, a poll out today finds....55% believe...that the Constitution establishes a Christian nation.

...only 56% agree that freedom of religion applies to all groups "regardless of how extreme their beliefs are....49% said the First Amendment "goes too far in the rights it guarantees." - USA Today article

A new poll shows the Republican Party agrees with us on a wide variety of issues:





Lots of Americans (including false-Americans, like blue-staters and brown people) agree with us:
  • 18% believe that the earth is the center of the universe. 3% said "no opinion." Gallup (1999)
  • 10% believe that environmentalists intentionally caused the oil spill
  • A 2004 study showed that 51% of Americans believe in Creationism
  • 18% of Americans believe Obama is a Muslim. (Pew Research Center)
  • 80% of Americans believe the US government is lying about whatever happened at Roswell
George W Bush heard the voice of God on a regular basis:

"God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East..."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=310788&contrassID=2&subContrass ID=1&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y

But Bush is a secular liberal compared to our future President!

We believe that the destruction of New Orleans was an act of God, and so does the President: 'Events aren't moved by blind change and chance [but by] the hand of a just and faithful God.' -George W Bush

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../06/se.01.html

We believe that non-Christians will burn in hell forever, and so does the president: "In 1993, just before running for governor of Texas, Mr. Bush told a Jewish reporter that only believers in Jesus go to heaven."

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0316-05.htm

We believe that gays are the #1 threat to civilization, and so does Pat Robertson, owner of the 3rd largest cable media empire and head of the 1.7 million member Christian Coalition, the most powerful lobbying group in the United States.

"I have known few homosexuals who did not practice their tendencies. Such people are sinning against God and will lead to the ultimate destruction of the family and our nation. I am unalterably opposed to such things, and will do everything I can to restrict the freedom of these people..." --Pat Robertson

We were planning to televise Armageddon, but another conservative Christian did it first:

"Armageddon may or may not be televised. But if Dr. Mike Evans has his way, his newly launched Evangelical Israel Broadcasting Network will be broadcasting directly from the scene. Dr. Evans, who heads the Jerusalem Prayer Team, believes war with Iraq could be a "dress rehearsal for Armageddon" -- the fulfillment of biblical prophecy... Dr. Evans' reading of the Bible may help explain why many conservative Christian fundamentalists are supporting President Bush..."

http://www.workingforchange.com/prin...m?itemid=14656

Bush has nominated W. David Hager to the powerful Food and Drug Administration's panel on women's health policy. Hager believes women should turn to the Bible and Christ for healing, just like us.

General William Boykin, appointed to a senior Defense Department post, has repeatedly explained that America's enemy is not terrorists, but "a spiritual enemy ... called Satan." The enemy will only be defeated, according to General Boykin, "if we come against them in the name of Jesus."

Why we love George:

"Bush is very much into the apocalyptic and messianic thinking of militant Christian evangelicals. He seems to buy into the worldview that there is a giant struggle between good and evil culminating in a final confrontation. People with that kind of a worldview often take risks that are inappropriate and scary [to secular sinners] because they see it as carrying out God's will."

-- Chip Berlet, senior analyst for Political Research Associates

Marvin Olasky -- a former Maoist who is now a Christian Reconstructionist -- coined the phrase "compassionate conservatism," and was hired by the Bush campaign in 2000 to serve as their top consultant on welfare. Olasky's entire career has been financed by Howard Ahmanson, the California multimillionaire who has said publicly that his life's goal is "to integrate Biblical law into all our lives." Ahmanson is the main force behind the schism in the Episcopalian church. Also, he is the most important advocate of the Intelligent Design movement, also known as creationism.

"Bush had picked Jack Hayford, a California Charismatic, to give the benediction at the Fifty-fourth Inaugural Prayer Service at the National Cathedral. Involved in the founding of the Promise Keepers men's revival group, Hayford was a supporter of Christian Reconstruction or Dominionism.

Anthony T. Evans of Dallas, who likewise preached a workdview based on the Bible, was a speaker at the pre-inaugural Washington Prayer Luncheon in January, 2001 ...

What Hayford and Evans had in common, other preachers said, was a shared adherence to 'Kingdom Now' or Dominionist theology. Loosely put, it called for seizure of eathly power by 'the people of God' as the only way by which the world could be rescued. Prayer and evangelism were not enough: a Christian-led social reformation was necessary because Christ would not return to earth until a revised Church has set the scene. A president convinced that God was speaking to him ... might through Dominionism start to view himself as an agent called by the Almighty to restore the earth to Godly control. "

-- Kevin Philips_American Dynasty_ Chapter 7

We believe George is a deity and he does too: "President George W. Bush stood before a cheering crowd at a Dallas Christian youth center last week...Behind Bush were two banners. 'King of Kings', proclaimed one. 'Lord of Lords', said the other." Observer, November 2, 2003

We are fighting a war with science, and so are our friends in the White House:

"More than 4,000 [heathen] scientists, including 48 Nobel laureates, have joined a call for "restoration of scientific integrity in federal policymaking," charging that the Bush administration is packing scientific advisory panels with ideologues and imposing controls on collaboration with foreign researchers, a scientists' group said yesterday." - Washington Post, July 9, 2004

We know that a John Kerry victory would have resulted in the banning of the Bible, and the Republican Party knows as well:

"The Republican Party acknowledged yesterday sending mass mailings...warning that "liberals" seek to ban the Bible." -New York Times, September 23, 2004

[Note: the NYT says "warn" not "claim" because even the liberalmedia NYT admits Kerry planned to ban the Bible!]



It would have also resulted in swarthy, brown men holding hands, which is too hideous to even think about

We believe that 9/11 was God's punishment for New York's sinfulness, and that Jews and feminists are evil and so do the millions of people who watch the 700 club:


"I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way - all of them who have tried to secularize America - I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this happen'."
Thursday, Sept. 13, 2001" -- Rev. Jerry Falwell, in an appearance on Pat Robertson's The 700 Club *

"The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians." -- Pat Robertson, fundraising letter, 1992

"With all due respect to those dear people, my friend, God Almighty does not hear the prayer of a Jew." --Bailey Smith, a founding father of Robertson's Christian Coalition at a Religious Roundtable briefing in Dallas, June 26, 1994

We believe that gays should be executed like the nazis were, and the millions of people who watch Dr. Laura agree:

"I want to coin a phrase here, and I don't mind help. What would be the communication version of "ethnic cleansing?" Because that's what in particular the homosexual activists try to do." --Dr. Laura Schlessinger, August 11, 1999

We believe that Religious states, such as those in the middle east, aren't such a bad idea, and the Supreme Court Agrees:

"The 'wall of separation between church and state' is a metaphor based on bad history...It should be frankly and explicitly abandoned."-- Supreme Court Judge William Rehnquist

We agree wholeheartedly with Republican strategist Randall Terry: "I want you to just let a wave of intolerance wash over you. I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good.... Our goal is a Christian nation. We have a Biblical duty, we are called by God, to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want pluralism." -- Randall Terry, quoted in The News-Sentinel, Fort Wayne, Indiana, August 16, 1993

We believe that deceiving the American voters is a good thing, and so does Republican strategist Ralph Reed:

"It's like guerrilla warfare. If you reveal your location, all it does is allow your opponent to improve his artillery bearings. It's better to move quietly, with stealth, under cover of night. You've got two choices: You can wear cammies and shimmy along on your belly, or you can put on a red coat and stand up for everyone to see. It comes down to whether you want to be the British army in the Revolutionary War or the Viet Cong. History tells us which tactic was more effective." -- Ralph Reed, Los Angeles Times, March 22, 1992

We believe that the Crusades were a wonderful time in history and we support conversion by the sword. So do the millions who watch Ann Coulter on TV, buy her books and read her newspaper columns:

"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity...We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war." -- Ann Coulter, This is War column, Sept. 13, 2001

We want to turn the constitution into the toilet paper it deserves to be, and the millions of readers of the Washington Times agree:

"We are approaching a time when Christians, especially, may have to declare the social contract between Enlightenment rationalists and Biblical believers - which formed the basis of the constitution written at our nation's founding - null and void." --Cal Thomas, Washington Times, 1996-OCT-23

We believe that women shouldn't vote, and the people of Kansas agree:

"I'm an old-fashioned woman. Men should take care of women, and if men were taking care of women (today) we wouldn't have to vote."-- State Sen. Kay O'Connor, Kansas Republican, September 28, 2001, Kansas City Star

We agree with Secretary of State (that's the 3rd most powerful guy in the nation):

"Unique among the nations, America recognized the source of our character as being godly and eternal, not being civic and temporal. And because we have understood that our source is eternal, America has been different. We have no king but Jesus." -- John Ashcroft, Commencement address given on May 8, 1999, upon receiving an honorary degree at ultra-right-wing and ultra-fundamentalist Bob Jones University, also known for its anti-negro segregationist policies

We believe that only a total monopoly on power is acceptable, and not even the slightest amount of dissent is tolerable, and the people of Oklahoma agree:

"Get the few liberals out. If you don't do it, it ain't gonna be done," Sen. James Inhofe, R-Oklahoma, told the crowd at the Washington Convention Center. "You will be doing the Lord's work, and he will richly bless you for it." -- Christian Coalition's Road to Victory Conference, 2002, Washington D.C.

We want to burn synogogues, censor everything, and ban immoral speech. We're not the only ones:

"When the Christian majority takes over this country, there will be no satanic churches, no more free distribution of pornography, no more talk of rights for homosexuals. After the Christian majority takes control, pluralism will be seen as immoral and evil and the state will not permit anybody the right to practice evil."
--Gary Potter, president of Catholics for Christian Political Action

"The Christian community has a golden opportunity to train an army of dedicated teachers who can invade the public school classrooms and use them to influence the nation for Christ." --D. James Kennedy, "Education: Public Problems and Private Solutions," Coral Ridge Ministries, 1993

* In case you think that Pat Robertson was "just kidding" here's a partial transcript of comments from the Thursday, September 13, 2001 edition of the '700 Club.'

Quote:
JERRY FALWELL: And I agree totally with you that the Lord has protected us so wonderfully these 225 years. And since 1812, this is the first time that we've been attacked on our soil and by far the worst results. And I fear, as Donald Rumsfeld, the Secretary of Defense, said yesterday, that this is only the beginning. And with biological warfare available to these monsters - the Husseins, the Bin Ladens, the Arafats--what we saw on Tuesday, as terrible as it is, could be miniscule if, in fact--if, in fact--God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve.

PAT ROBERTSON: Jerry, that's my feeling. I think we've just seen the antechamber to terror. We haven't even begun to see what they can do to the major population.

JERRY FALWELL: The ACLU's got to take a lot of blame for this.

PAT ROBERTSON: Well, yes.

JERRY FALWELL: And, I know that I'll hear from them for this. But, throwing God out successfully with the help of the federal court system, throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools. The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way--all of them who have tried to secularize America--I point the finger in their face and say "you helped this happen."

PAT ROBERTSON: Well, I totally concur, and the problem is we have adopted that agenda at the highest levels of our government.

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/87/story_8770_1.html
By the way, America is not a Democracy, it is not even a Republic, it is a MONARCHY and its King and Queen are the founders of our good friend, the Unification Church:

"WASHINGTON As a shining symbol of democracy, the United States capital is not ordinarily a place where coronations occur. So news that the Reverend Sun Myung Moon, the eccentric and exceedingly wealthy Korean-born businessman, donned a crown in a Senate office building and declared himself the Messiah while members of Congress watched is causing something of an uproar...

[A] congressman from Illinois, Danny Davis, wore white gloves and carried a pillow holding one of two ornate gold crowns that were placed on the heads of Moon and his wife, Hak Ja Han Moon, at the ceremony, which took place March 23...

Davis, for the record, says he held the wife's crown and was "a bit surprised" by Moon's Messiah remarks, which were delivered in Korean but accompanied by a written translation. In them, he said emperors, kings and presidents had "declared to all heaven and earth that Reverend Sun Myung Moon is none other than humanity's Savior, Messiah, Returning Lord and True Parent."

...At 84, Moon cuts a curious figure in Washington, where he mingles with the city's elite by dint of his dual roles as religious leader and media mogul. He owns The Washington Times, which bills itself as a conservative alternative to The Washington Post, as well as United Press International, the wire service. He calls himself "Father" and has drawn notoriety for officiating at mass weddings[where he chooses who marries who at random]. As a conservative, he claims close ties to President George W. Bush and the Republican Party." - The New York Times



http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/24/po...rtner=USERLAND

The future is bright. DEAL WITH IT.

Do you get the point yet? We are not fringe. YOU ARE FRINGE. We are not extreme. YOU ARE EXTREME. We are not "just kidding".

DEAL WITH IT.


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Default Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US! - 08-31-2007, 11:57 AM

and yet there are people out there who find our views and attitudes 'strange' and 'aggressively closeminded'. Those people should be imprisoned or shot. Gods word obviously cant get through to everyone, no matter how many times you bash them over the head with a KJV bible.
Bless you brother Jeb.


The devil, whose business is to pervert the truth, mimics the exact circumstance of the Divine Sacraments. He baptises his believers and promises forgiveness of sins...he celebrates the oblation of bread, and brings in the symbol of the resurrection. Let us therefore acknowledge the craftiness of the devil, who copied certain things of those that be divine."
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Default Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US! - 09-08-2007, 09:09 AM

WE ARE THE ESTABLISHMENT

$65 billion taxpayer's dollars (65,000,000,000) is now available to religious charities (such as Landover Baptist) that disciminate in their hiring. The libs call this "taxpayer subsidized discrimination" but we call it "the will of God".

In addition, religious groups such as Landover Baptist can apply for more money through state-administered programs.

Landover Baptist and similar churches are being blessed with wealth thanks to your tax dollars. We send money to Bush and he returns the favor a hundredfold:

Philadelphia Church That Endorsed Bush Gets $1 Million 'Faith-Based' Grant - Wednesday June 23, 2004

http://www.au.org/site/News2?page=Ne...s_iv_ctrl=1241

Even the "Moonie Cult" (Sun Yung Moon's Unification Church), is now getting government money. - Salon.com, Sept. 24, 2003 "Bad Moon on the rise"

"For Louisianna seventh graders, abstinence-only education appears first and foremost to be about terrifying diseases: suppurating boils, endless rashes, sterility, cancers, and the physical and psychic morbidity with which they are to be punished for having sex before marriage."

"Hundreds of federally funded abstinence-only programs are run by faith-based groups [including Landover Baptist]. The Louisianna American Civil Liberties Union found that ... thousands of dollars went to programs that included prayers as well as continuous referrences to God, Jesus Christ, and the spiritual repercussions of sex before marriage."

-- Sierra magazine, January-February, 2004

We believe in re-education camps for non-Christians, and so does Bush's brother:

"In Lawtey, Florida, Gov. Jeb Bush dedicated what is being called the nation's first religion-based prison." - http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/state/7426617.htm

As proud historical revisionists, we believe in rewriting history, and so does the National Park Service:

"...the National Park Service is hell-bent on removing images of anti-Vietnam War demonstrations, pro-choice marches and gay rights marches from an eight-minute video tape located at the Lincoln Memorial covering historic gatherings that have taken place there and on the Washington Mall."

- http://www.nypress.com/16/53/news&columns/signorile.cfm

We engage in book burnings and so do many other churches:

"On Sunday evening, members of the Harvest Assembly of God Church in Penn Township sing songs as they burn books, videos and CDs that they have judged offensive to their God."



- Published in the Butler Eagle, March 26, 2001

We believe that all homosexuals are baby-raping monsters who deserve to be executed, and so does Lou Sheldon, founder of the Traditional Values Coalition:

"Our little children are being targeted by the homosexuals...They want our preschool children...They want our kindergarten children..They want our grade school children..They want our middle school and high school children."

The Alliance Defense Fund is the largest national organization leading the fight against civil unions and same-sex marriage, as well as "domestic partner" laws in various cities, ordinances protecting gays from discrimination etc. Like Landover Baptist they are working to deny gay parents custody of their own children. At least one ADF project, the Blackstone Fellowship for law students, has ties to the Christian Reconstructionist movement. Christian Reconstructionists advocate a society anchored in "biblical law" and would literally base U.S. law on the legal code of the Old Testament - in 100% agreement with Landover Baptist Church.

We believe that the less Americans who vote, the better, and we're not the only ones:

"With the apathy that exists today" writes Pat Robertson in his book The Millennium, 1990, "a well organized minority [ie Landover Baptist Church] can influence the selection of candidates to an astonishing degree."

"The apathy of other Americans can become a blessing and advantage to Christians...If just 10% of all Christians in America today woke up and realized how easy it is, got involved consistently for the long haul, it would not take long to reform America completely. How long? Believe it or not, it could be done within ten years…every godly representative in the state legislatures and the Congress could ... work with a godly president. New judicial appointments would begin radically changing ... the…courts ... One thing of great importance is for you to fulfill your Biblical duty to choose a godly representative by getting involved in local party politics for the rest of your life." (page 266-7, America's Providential History by Mark Beliles and Stephen McDowell).



We support beating and paddling kids in schools, even if their injuries send them to the hospital, and charter schools agree:

"18-year-old student sues school over paddling

...she's suing the School of Excellence in Education, San Antonio's largest charter school, alleging it was wrong for the principal to paddle an adult student without her consent. She says the beating she received for leaving campus to get breakfast was so severe she had to go to the emergency room.

...This case is about three adults holding down an adult female and beating her with a wooden paddle so bad that she ended up in the hospital.""

http://www.heralddemocrat.com/articl...iq_1731421.txt

20,000,000 Americans said "MEGA DITTOS!" when Rush Limbaugh cheered on the torture of Iraqis, and the White House refused to disagree. They continued using taxpayer money to make sure all the soldiers hear the word of Rush Limbaugh on American Services Network radio.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in616021.shtml

"There is one proud and satisfied place where the pictures and accounts of the abuse endured by some prisoners at Abu Ghraib cause no consternation and no outrage: Rush Limbaugh's America, pop. 20 million...

"This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation...they had a good time...I'm talking about people having a good time, these people, you ever heard of emotional release?""

If it's fun, it's good.






But the important thing to remember is that all those folks whose doors we kicked down in the middle of the night before we dragged them away from their screaming kids are OUT TO GET US!

"There's only one thing to do here, folks, and that's achieve victory over people who have targeted us for loooong, long time, well over 15, 20 years."

Yes, I know 20 years ago Bush Sr. was sending free anthrax and chemical weapons to Saddam for use against those heathen kurds and their Iranian allies. Saddam was as American as deep-fried apple pie 20 years ago. Rush isn'ttalking about him, he's talking about the average citizen of Iraq.

You see, it's either us, or them:

Thinking about torture is "something that will really ties [sic] our hands and handcuffs us..."

That's right, would you like some mudslum dressing YOUR boy in a skirt and electrocuting his balls and then taking a poo on him? I'm sure lots of liberals would!


"I think a lot of the American culture is being feminized. I think the reaction to the stupid torture is an example of the feminization of this country,"


That's right, he may be in a dress, but what we're suffering is worse.

On his May 3th show Rush admitted it's torture, but come on, who wouldn't want to be tortured by a hardbody army chick: "have you people noticed who the torturers are? Women! The babes! The babes are meting out the torture."

MEGADITTOS RUSH!

When the White House press conference was asked if they agreed with Rush Limbaugh's statements, Bush's press secretary refused to disagree with Rush Limbaugh.

The White House has also ignored this petition:

http://www.petitiononline.com/mmfa2/petition.html

"Limbaugh’s radio program is broadcast to American troops via the American Services Network, a taxpayer-funded radio and television broadcasting agency that reaches nearly 1 million US troops...

"In recent weeks, Rush Limbaugh has: Compared the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by U.S. guards at Abu Ghraib to a fraternity initiation; called the abuse “brilliant” and “effective”; said the guards were just “having a good time” and “blow[ing] some steam off”; likened the abuse to “a Britney Spears or Madonna concert … [or] the MTV music awards”; compared pictures of the abuse to “good old American pornography”; and said “the reaction to the stupid torture is an example of the feminization of this country.”




Though I must admit that my taste in "good old American pornography" [May 6th show] is different from the White House and Mr. Limbaugh's. I hope we get some photos from the women's prisons soon.


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Default Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US! - 09-14-2007, 12:17 PM

Oh, and let's not forget the state-of-the-art creation science museum outside of Cincinnati, where I went recently. As you walk in, it looks very much like the kind of museums that maybe you went to in field trips when you were a kid. There's a planetarium where you can look at the heavens and learn how starlight took 6,000 years to reach the earth, because that's how old the universe is! There is this fantastic diorama of animatronic dinosaurs and small children playing together in a rainforest!

Here's a quote from Pam Stenzel, at the forefront of the abstinence-only movement, who was appointed to the Department of Health and Human Services panel that oversees how abstinence guidelines should be instituted. This is what she says about "abstinence-only sex eductation":

"Does it work? You know what? Doesn't matter. Because my job is not to keep teenagers from having sex. ...People of God, can I beg you to commit yourself to truth, not what works. To truth, I don't care if it works, because at the end of the day, I'm not answering to you, I'm answering to God."

..."Let me tell you something, people of God, that is radical and I can only say it here. AIDS is not the enemy. HPV and a hysterectomy at 20 is not the enemy. An unplanned pregnancy is not the enemy. My child believing that they can shake their fists in the face of a holy God and sin without consequences is the enemy. I will not teach my child that they can sin safely."

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Default Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US! - 09-26-2007, 11:19 PM

The way I see it, we are the leading edge of politics, religion, and culture in America. We're always about one election ahead of our time. Let's list how many innovations we pioneered, which are now becoming mainstream:

In no particular order:

1. Bringing back the Crusades. (Self-explainitory)
2. Faith Based Prisons
3. President-for-life-Bush
4. Faith-based dissent-busters
5. On-the-spot torture for liberals
6. Bringing back school segregation
7. Re-igniting the Cold War
8. Privatizing the Army ("Military contractors")
9. Fashion Police
10. Universal machinegun ownership, overnight privatization of everything, militia movements, flat taxes, torture, and pretty much everything about Iraq
11. Mainstream Holocaust denial
12. The Draft
13. Celebrating labor day in style!

I'm sure there's more, this is just off the top of my head.

They say Nikola Tesla invented the 20th century, well, Landover Baptist Church has invented the 21st.


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Default Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US! - 09-26-2007, 11:55 PM

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The way I see it, we are the leading edge of politics, religion, and culture in America. We're always about one election ahead of our time. Let's list how many innovations we pioneered, which are now becoming mainstream:

In no particular order:

1. Bringing back the Crusades. (Self-explainitory)
2. Faith Based Prisons
3. President-for-life-Bush
4. Faith-based dissent-busters
5. On-the-spot torture for liberals
6. Bringing back school segregation
7. Re-igniting the Cold War
8. Privatizing the Army ("Military contractors")
9. Fashion Police
10. Universal machinegun ownership, overnight privatization of everything, militia movements, flat taxes, torture, and pretty much everything about Iraq
11. Mainstream Holocaust denial
12. The Draft

I'm sure there's more, this is just off the top of my head.

They say Nikola Tesla invented the 20th century, well, Landover Baptist Church has invented the 21st.

You are truly a fat bullfrog looking nutjob. 3 is my favorite. I cant wait to come here to see what you crazies have to say after the 08' election. Bush isnt even legally allowed to run. Democrats will make short work of the Republicans the same way the took the House and Senate majority in 06'..

Get over it. People dont give 2 sh*ts about YOU or YOUR religion.. You can all talk yourselves up in this forum but in the real world you ARE a minority and you will NEVER have any real power.

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You are truly a fat bullfrog looking nutjob. 3 is my favorite. I cant wait to come here to see what you crazies have to say after the 08' election. Bush isnt even legally allowed to run.
Bush wasn't legally allowed to liberate Iraq, but he doesn't need a permission slip to defend his country. We weren't legally allowed to stop the Florida recount, but we didn't ask for a permission slip there either. Law? WE ARE THE LAW!

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Uh, right, so tell us about all the power and influence you Dems have with the House and Senate....Let's hear about some of the big things that have changed because of ALL of that power you libs have now....


Your pretty little Senate seats aren't doing anything, because we have the one and only seat that matters: THE SEAT AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD!


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You are truly a fat bullfrog looking nutjob. 3 is my favorite. I cant wait to come here to see what you crazies have to say after the 08' election. Bush isnt even legally allowed to run. Democrats will make short work of the Republicans the same way the took the House and Senate majority in 06'..

Get over it. People dont give 2 sh*ts about YOU or YOUR religion.. You can all talk yourselves up in this forum but in the real world you ARE a minority and you will NEVER have any real power.
You hate mongering bigot! You will care about OUR Religion, just you see. You will be begging for Jesus to SAVE your worthless backside when the boys from Blackwater hall your backside off to a Haliburton run re-education camp in 2009. Jesus wipes His prefect feet on your worthless constitution, America needs only one law and that is The Bible.

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Default Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US! - 09-27-2007, 11:57 PM

HAHAHA

You think soo highly of yourselves. Somehow i get called a "hate mongering bigot." Its kind of funny because Pastor Zeke sent me a warning calling me a toilet mouthed FAG...<-- sounds like this forum is home to hate mongering bigots.

You people ARE minorities in the real world. Just accept it.. Nobody else is as crazy as you.

You are the to the Christians what the Taliban is to the Muslims.. radical nutjobs.
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Default Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US! - 09-28-2007, 12:01 AM

Look here Pricilla, defending Islam is not the way to make friends here.
Islam is 100% pure evil.
Taliban=Islam=Muslim=AlQieda=Saddam=Osama=evil.
All of them are the same. The "radical" ones are the ones WITHOUT bombs under their dresses.


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Default Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US! - 09-28-2007, 12:43 AM

There is no way I could ever make friends here. Im definately too well grounded for that sort of thing. I dont think so much of myself that I feel i need to go out of my way to limit other people.

Its just crazy that people in these forums actually believe things like "Bush will be president for life".. It NEVER gonna happen.Someone told me that i will be " put in a Halliburton run re-education center in 2009". Are you F*cking serious.. thats WAY beyond delusional.

You think you can justify any crazy idea you get by claiming its for god... or its what god wants.

Most people here blatantly support bigotry and corruption.

I just cant wait until George W. Christ loses power and a Democrat takes his place. I wonder what its gonna be like around here when all of you are foaming at the mouth over Curious George( who cant even run again) failing to carry on the crusade against everything and everyone that isnt exactly like you.

Get real.

You can call me Pricilla or fag or whatever you wanna call me. I live with my girlfriend (whom i have premarital sex with on occasion) and im secure enough with who I am to not let your 2nd grade names bother me.

Democrats are always accused of being weak and scared but its YOU people who are afraid.afraid to think for yourselves.. you need a book to guide you.. and then you dont even read the book correctly.

The really funny part is that I could come back here after the Election next year and once Bush is gone and a Democrat is in you might still deny reality.I definately wouldnt put it past you wackos.

You can try to insult my intelligence but at the end of the day im not the guy who believes my entire life is being watched over by an invisible man. Deny proof and accept fiction.. its easier that way I guess.
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Logical Thinking: There is no way I could ever make friends here. Im definately too well grounded for that sort of thing.
I can't help but wonder how much better you would have turned out if your parents had given you the beatings you sorely needed instead of "grounding" you so you could sit in your room and play with yourself.

Logical Thinking: you need a book to guide you.. and then you dont even read the book correctly.
Well, Mr. Wise Biblical Scholar, why don't you enlighten us as to how we don't read the Bible correctly. Considering you don't read it at all, I'm sure your reprovements will be entertaining.

Logical Thinking: im not the guy who believes my entire life is being watched over by an invisible man. Deny proof and accept fiction.. its easier that way I guess.
So you ADMIT that "Deny proof and accept fiction" is your motto. I suppose that would be easier for someone who just wanted to live a depraved life of sin.

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Default Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US! - 09-28-2007, 01:01 AM

So you ADMIT that "Deny proof and accept fiction" is your motto. I suppose that would be easier for someone who just wanted to live a depraved life of sin.
- Yes thats my Motto.. that exactly what I said.. you clever spinster you!

Pastor Billy-Reuben:Well, Mr. Wise Biblical Scholar, why don't you enlighten us as to how we don't read the Bible correctly. Considering you don't read it at all, I'm sure your reprovements will be entertaining.

-No I never claimed to be a Biblical scholar.. (dont get into fiction too much) but I have went to church a fair amount. Maybe I didnt get it.. but what I took from it was things like "love thy neighbor"..( non homosexual way of course) I thought christians were supposed to be good righteous people and not use their religion as a weapon. You dont have to agree with everyone. And you dont have the right to tell ANYONE what to do.

Pastor Billy-Reuben:I can't help but wonder how much better you would have turned out if your parents had given you the beatings you sorely needed instead of "grounding" you so you could sit in your room and play with yourself.

Yeah thats exactly how it went down.. at least I was playing with myself and didnt turn out like a catholic priest. Im sure we both HATE them..(even though your not supposed to HATE anyone). That was just childish..you powerless old geezer.. HA

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I have went to church a fair amount. Maybe I didnt get it.. but what I took from it was things like "love thy neighbor"...
Looks like you went a fair amount to a "wolves in sheep's clothing" church, not a church that TREATS THE BIBLE AS IF IT'S ACTUALLY GOD'S LETTER TO HUMANITY!

Do you even know what Love Thy Neighbour means? If a deaf person is on a train track, with a train coming straight for him, is it loving to just sit back and watch?

No! The loving thing is to come to his rescue. You have to push him out of the way. He'll probably fight, due to his confusion, so you'll have to fight to win.

According to you, it would be loving to sit back and watch people behave in ways that will result in them being tortured in hell for ever and ever. That's not love. That's sadism.

The loving thing is to come to their rescue. You have to push them away from sin. They ususally fight, due to their confusion, so we have to fight to win.

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13-18 Be prepared. You're up against far more than you can handle on your own. Take all the help you can get, every weapon God has issued, so that when it's all over but the shouting you'll still be on your feet. Truth, righteousness, peace, faith, and salvation are more than words. Learn how to apply them. You'll need them throughout your life. God's Word is an indispensable weapon.

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There is no way I could ever make friends here. Im definately too well grounded for that sort of thing. I dont think so much of myself that I feel i need to go out of my way to limit other people.
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Why the hatting? Can't we all be friends. Jesus loves you too. Yes I know it is hard to belive but yes He does.



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Default Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US! - 09-28-2007, 02:20 AM

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Looks like you went a fair amount to a "wolves in sheep's clothing" church, not a church that TREATS THE BIBLE AS IF IT'S ACTUALLY GOD'S LETTER TO HUMANITY!

Do you even know what Love Thy Neighbour means? If a deaf person is on a train track, with a train coming straight for him, is it loving to just sit back and watch?

No! The loving thing is to come to his rescue. You have to push him out of the way. He'll probably fight, due to his confusion, so you'll have to fight to win.

According to you, it would be loving to sit back and watch people behave in ways that will result in them being tortured in hell for ever and ever. That's not love. That's sadism.

The loving thing is to come to their rescue. You have to push them away from sin. They ususally fight, due to their confusion, so we have to fight to win.


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10-12 And that about wraps it up. God is strong, and he wants you strong. So take everything the Master has set out for you, well-made weapons of the best materials. And put them to use so you will be able to stand up to everything the Devil throws your way. This is no afternoon athletic contest that we'll walk away from and forget about in a couple of hours. This is for keeps, a life-or-death fight to the finish against the Devil and all his angels.

13-18 Be prepared. You're up against far more than you can handle on your own. Take all the help you can get, every weapon God has issued, so that when it's all over but the shouting you'll still be on your feet. Truth, righteousness, peace, faith, and salvation are more than words. Learn how to apply them. You'll need them throughout your life. God's Word is an indispensable weapon.

I know it's not the King James Version, but you get the point.

So basically its your duty to tell people when they are wrong. You have to use any means necessary. Could that could include torture, ridicule or worse? Truth, Righteousness and Peace seem to have NO place in most of the things you post Jeb. Everything you say seems to conflict with the ethics of the average "unsaved trash" Let alone grandma's who go to church every Sunday.

Even in the example you give you just highlight the sentences that suit you best and mostly overlook the other things.. I think the most powerful word in all of that is PEACE. Peace didnt get highlighted but all the parts about weapons did. Its so contradictory anyways.. who cares. Im just here til Zeke the Hitler of the wacko forum bans me anyway. I have ZERO rights in here... If you ask me these forums are anything BUT American.
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Default Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US! - 09-28-2007, 02:29 AM

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Even in the example you give you just highlight the sentences that suit you best and mostly overlook the other things.. I think the most powerful word in all of that is PEACE. Peace didnt get highlighted but all the parts about weapons did. Its so contradictory anyways.. who cares. Im just here til Zeke the Hitler of the wacko forum bans me anyway. I have ZERO rights in here... If you ask me these forums are anything BUT American.
Friend,

This a direct quote from Jesus Himself on Peace

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Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
And that my friend is what a TRUE Christian thinks about your "powerful force".

Good can have no peace with evil.



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Default Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US! - 09-28-2007, 09:42 PM

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So basically its your duty to tell people when they are wrong. You have to use any means necessary. Could that could include torture, ridicule or worse?
Did you even read this thread? For example, did you read the part about Rush Limbaugh's 40,000,000 listeners agreeing with us that "torture, ridicule or worse" at Abu Graib is All-American fun and games?

Maybe you should actually ask one of the church grandpas what they think of abortionists and sodomites. Where do you live, Vermont?


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Default Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US! - 09-28-2007, 11:35 PM

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So basically its your duty to tell people when they are wrong. You have to use any means necessary. Could that could include torture, ridicule or worse? Truth, Righteousness and Peace seem to have NO place in most of the things you post Jeb. Everything you say seems to conflict with the ethics of the average "unsaved trash".
What? Christians disagreeing with hellbound scum? Oh no! We'll certainly have to rethink our entire belief system now we know that Satan's dupes dislike it.


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Default Re: READ THIS BEFORE YOU FLAME US! - 09-29-2007, 08:01 PM

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