[shade]

Re: Westboro Baptist Church: Your competition.

The truth matters to me, and that is why I am living my life to the fullest. I don't believe in Jesus, no bones found to support his existance. In fact the only bones they have, so far as I know, are the bones of Paul in the Vatican.

And I know it isn't a religion, it is the lack of a religion.
I don't need to chant that he doesn't exist, I know he doesn't exist because if he did, his so-called-miracles would have left something behind, and you wouldn't just be going off the Bible to prove his existance.

Spells are ment to sooth and satisfy; sticking needles in a doll makes me feel so much better when I hate someone, a love spell instilled the confidence in me to tell my boyfriend that I love him.

I believe in survival of the fittest, that is Social Darwinism, child. And it has been a motivating idea for me.


It is not as in the Bible, that God created man in his own image. But, on the contrary, man created God in his own image. - Ludwig Feuerbach
Such a quote...

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Westboro Baptist Church: Your competition.

*sigh*how many times must I spell it out; I-am-not-Wiccan. I-am-not-pagan. I used to be, but I left it behind me because it didn't suit me. I live by my own beliefs, which don't involve any gods whatsoever, not the beliefs of some guy 50 yrs ago who thought he stumbled on an ancient religion.

Yeah, you live after your own beliefs, as I've been saying all along:
You believe in whatever suits the way you want to live your life.
And the truth is of no consequence to you.

Friend, that isn't even religion.
That's being a coward looking for a pathetic excuse to live a depraved life.
Jesus WILL judge you for your sins, no matter how much you close your eyes and chant that He doesn't exist!

Jesus still exists, hell still exists.
You can't really cast any spells (not even that placebo mumbo-jumbo), your "religion" is made up, and you are a failure in all aspects of life.
And so if you truly believed in social darwinism, then you would have shot yourself already.
Although.. I guess it's easy to think you believe in such when you still live with your parents, isn't it, CHILD?

Plus, TWs do not follow the WICCAN laws. They follow their own laws, established by their family. They are in no way related to Wiccans, and will spell it many times more than I have in this topic.

I don't care what they are related to.
All false religion is from man's own wicked imagination, or the devil and his demons.
Their's are no different, and despite their own differences they're all going to the same hell.

Praise the living name of Jesus Christ, His glory everlasting. Amen!

[shade]

Re: Westboro Baptist Church: Your competition.

*sigh*how many times must I spell it out; I-am-not-Wiccan. I-am-not-pagan. I used to be, but I left it behind me because it didn't suit me. I live by my own beliefs, which don't involve any gods whatsoever, not the beliefs of some guy 50 yrs ago who thought he stumbled on an ancient religion.

Plus, TWs do not follow the WICCAN laws. They follow their own laws, established by their family. They are in no way related to Wiccans, and will spell it many times more than I have in this topic.

What I believe is psychology, physics, history that hasn't been altered by someones religion, Social Darwinism, and atheistic evolution. And I believe Hillary will win the election of 2008, no doubt on my mind.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Westboro Baptist Church: Your competition.

No... stupid is ignoring scientific evidence.


Most TWs do practice ritual, 8 days out of the year. Although it does not involve blood or life sacrafice. TWs may or may not believe in dieties.


The common seeker should have access to recorded history, it was following a growth in science and art.

If they are discreet, like my cousin is at hacking, they should have no problems with the law.

So now you want us to believe that your wiccian nonsense is based on "scientific evidence"?

Go ahead, I'll bite. Explain yourself, and cite your scientifical references. This should be good.

[shade]

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No... stupid is ignoring scientific evidence.


Most TWs do practice ritual, 8 days out of the year. Although it does not involve blood or life sacrafice. TWs may or may not believe in dieties.


The common seeker should have access to recorded history, it was following a growth in science and art.

If they are discreet, like my cousin is at hacking, they should have no problems with the law.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Westboro Baptist Church: Your competition.

3. I-do-not-believe-in-gods/goddesses. Nor did I, when I was pagan, believe the Goddess was an all loving type. Last I checked, Hecate was supposedly queen of ghosts and the underworld, and that she wasn't afraid to take out her anger on anyone

Yes, she certainly did a very good job of taking out her anger on the people who killed all her followers.

The people I know; they believe in herblore, the spirit world, and are very superstitious.

That's a very long-winded way of saying "are stupid."

They don't practice like pagans used to, they are different,

Yes, very different. Actual pagans practiced actual pagan rituals.

The founding fathers got their hands on the history of democracy, why not the common seeker too?

Um, what?

And don't give me 'witchcraft was illegal in england until recently', I know that. People rebel.

I know that. People rebel. Then they get executed. Then people suddenly seem a lot less keen on rebelling.

[shade]

Re: Westboro Baptist Church: Your competition.

1. Jesus can s*ck it.


3. I-do-not-believe-in-gods/goddesses. Nor did I, when I was pagan, believe the Goddess was an all loving type. Last I checked, Hecate was supposedly queen of ghosts and the underworld, and that she wasn't afraid to take out her anger on anyone. The people I know; they believe in herblore, the spirit world, and are very superstitious. But prayer is superstition, just as well. They don't practice like pagans used to, they are different, however unlike Wicca they built it over time. Even if it was just over a couple centuries ago, they still built it with what they could get their hands on. The founding fathers got their hands on the history of democracy, why not the common seeker too? And don't give me 'witchcraft was illegal in england until recently', I know that. People rebel.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Westboro Baptist Church: Your competition.

1. Im not pagan, I keep saying that. Unless you count the definition 'not Christian, Jewish, or muslim', Im not pagan

You anti-Christian attitude is still noted by Christ. Here you are persecuting His chosen elect with facts. Jesus is most unhappy with you friend.

2. They are not plotting that

God say otherwise friend. That's why we Christians hunted pagans down and killed them all.

3. It's called traditional because its family, developed over time, some things taken out, some kept. Its that they took and discarded over the centuries C.E. I never said they practice exactly what the romans, greeks, etc, did. And you'd be hard pressed to find them, they are so rare.

Friend, all your talk of family tradition misses the BIG picture; the last pagan traditions in Europe were in Lithuania. They only converted to Christianity in the 15th century, almost thousand years after Greece, England and Italy that you are so infatuated by. They had pretty big country at the time and fought one of the biggest land battles in medieval Europe at Tanneburgh with the Teutonic Knights. There sheer size and persistence of Lithuania makes the utter ignorance of them by neo-pagans like you claiming an ancient tradition just outrageous. But I guess a bunch of guys worshiping trees in the swamp and burning priests alive isn’t as romantic as your’ Great Mother, is it? Do you any other outright stupid things to say about history to show you never have bothered to open a book in your’ life friend? Do continue. I can use the laugh.

[shade]

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1. Im not pagan, I keep saying that. Unless you count the definition 'not Christian, Jewish, or muslim', Im not pagan

2. They are not plotting that

3. It's called traditional because its family, developed over time, some things taken out, some kept. Its that they took and discarded over the centuries C.E. I never said they practice exactly what the romans, greeks, etc, did. And you'd be hard pressed to find them, they are so rare.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Westboro Baptist Church: Your competition.

So, if I just gathered up some large group of people and (law cooperating) started burning Christians, friends of Christians, and every bible I could find, does that mean I would end up completely wiping them out? no, stragglers would exist to carry it on, although it would definately change, since no more churches would exist to regulate it. it could just be a few families, but it would still exist. And hasn't the Christian religion changed as well? Heretics are not legally burned anymore, are they? If caught, you'd be tried.

Heretics are not burned anymore friend because Satanist have stolen this country away from us good Americans with their vile San Fransisco values of tolerance. Soon we Christians will reclaim our country.

We also know you pagans are plotting to persecute us Christians, just like you did during the Roman Empire. Jesus has warned this in Revelations and when He returns you are going to be spending your last minutes on earth disemboweled with the ravens eating your guts if you don't repent. Show some love for your fellow man you hate filled monster!

Also, I note you can cite not example of an ancient pagan practice in modern use. Thank you for coinciding my point.

[shade]

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So, if I just gathered up some large group of people and (law cooperating) started burning Christians, friends of Christians, and every bible I could find, does that mean I would end up completely wiping them out? no, stragglers would exist to carry it on, although it would definately change, since no more churches would exist to regulate it. it could just be a few families, but it would still exist. And hasn't the Christian religion changed as well? Heretics are not legally burned anymore, are they? If caught, you'd be tried.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Westboro Baptist Church: Your competition.

Traditional witchcrafts, unlike Wicca, are long-standing family traditions, developed over the centuries from the pagan religions and magical practices that find home in specific european countries; mainly greece, italy, and the british isles.. They are family traditions, not official traditions. And I know quite a few traditional witches, none of them believe in the Rede, and all of them have major differences in their believes.

Boy, all that sodomy and ingestion of manseed has obviously rotted your brain. You aren't even making sense.

Why is it that all you queers think that you can just pull something out of your behind and then force the rest of us normal people (i.e., Christians) to swallow these ridiculous "instant traditions"?

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Westboro Baptist Church: Your competition.

Traditional witchcrafts, unlike Wicca, are long-standing family traditions, developed over the centuries from the pagan religions and magical practices that find home in specific european countries; mainly greece, italy, and the british isles.. They are family traditions, not official traditions. And I know quite a few traditional witches, none of them believe in the Rede, and all of them have major differences in their believes.

I think you missed my point friend; those historical pagans, their neighbors, their pets and anyone who knew those people were burnt to death in 15th and 16th centuries. There is no ancient pagan tradition because we Christians piously destroyed it as God commands. Unless you consider a vague set of folk superstitions a religion I really fail to see what you are talking about.

Let's put it another way; do you decorate your house with the heads of other men you have killed? Do you keep your weapons in stagnant pounds? Do you believe the dead go to live on the moon? Does your group ritually sacrifice a member to ensure the return of the Sun after winter? These are all recorded historical pagan beliefs and practices yet I have never heard any modern pagan do this.

Show me an historical practice recorded by the ancients and followed in the modern era that is not something suddenly "discovered" in 1950+ then you might have something friend. Otherwise paganism is dead because my good Christian ancestors destroyed it.

[shade]

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Traditional witchcrafts, unlike Wicca, are long-standing family traditions, developed over the centuries from the pagan religions and magical practices that find home in specific european countries; mainly greece, italy, and the british isles.. They are family traditions, not official traditions. And I know quite a few traditional witches, none of them believe in the Rede, and all of them have major differences in their believes.

[Bobby-Joe]

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Then you also have Non-Wiccan Witchcraft, which is older and far more vast in its incarnations, though they are all strictly from Europe.


And your the one who thought I was talking about sex...

Friend,

How can there be "older" traditions of wicker? We Christians have been very effective in killing witches dead as our loving Cavior commands. To show you have effective we are no witches were killed at the Salem witch hunt because they were already dead, all that were executed were pre-witches (women who would be witches if there was actual witches practicing at the time). So were are you getting these "ancient" traditions?