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  • Poetic Peter
    Christian Poet Emeritus
    Forum Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 1696

    #1

    Love and Empathy for Injured Mormons

    We of the Baptist Truth cannot truly appreciate the horrors that are inflicted on young Mormons.
    We are, by nature, too gentle.

    Missioning, even in foreign lands, is not the onus


    it's what comes before their far out trips, in the formative years,
    during which time the word of their "god" is administered physically
    by Mormonized parents.

    Let us minister toward the gentler side? Empathy for the lost.
    Mormons have a tough time of it, living inside lies, not knowing the lay.

    Perhaps we can save a few of these poor people by hearing their stories?

    Endless stories are found on the internets

    Subject: My Temple Beating (true story) Date: Oct 28 15:06 Author: Deconstructor These Mormon beating stories are bringing back some memories for me. I had my share of Sunday beatings growing up.

    But the worse Mormon beating I ever got was when I was 10, during a McConkie family reunion down in Manti during the Mormon Pageant. We went to the pageant hours before it started and set out blankets down on the grass in front of the temple. There were warning signs as we entered the lawn that it was sacred temple ground and we had to be reverent. But my cousins and I missed reading them.

    So there were were, sitting on our blankets on the temple lawn getting bored. After some time of waiting my cousins and I started to play. BIG MISTAKE! As I recall, we were just playing clapping games or rock, scissors, paper or something like that. We weren't bothering anyone but we were laughing.

    The next thing I know, my grandfather McConkie - whom I had never before seen angry - pulled me up by my arm and hit me across the cheek a few times and threw me down. In the crossest voice I'd ever heard, he chastised us for not being reverent on the holy temple ground. He was in a rage over it. He hit my other cousins too, knocking the wind out of each us as he threw us to the ground.

    I looked over to my mother for some sympathy and all I got was a cross look from her. Later, she would tell me that as a priesthood holder, her father did the right thing. Besides, didn't we read the signs when we entered the temple grounds?

    To understand my grandfather McConkie, he had been a full-time temple worker for over fifteen years. Mormonism - and especially the temple - was his life. And when he saw his grandchildren playing and laughing on the temple lawn he just couldn't take it. It didn't matter that the temple lawn was there for people to enjoy the pageant. Maybe he was embarrassed. Maybe he saw this as a teaching moment (one that we never forgot). Whatever the reason, it brought out that deep-seated righteous anger we read about in the scriptures and see modeled in many Bible believers.

    That day I learned the importance of reverence for Mormon Temples. Looking back, I think I learned some other things about Mormonism and what taking it seriously can do to otherwise kind people. My grandfather was normally affectionate, the kind of grandfather that always had candy in his pocket. The only time I saw him in a rage was that day waiting for the Manti Pageant to start.

    The only other time I saw him upset was the day blacks got the priesthood. But that's another story...
    Here's the source of the quote, just one of thousands of identical pages.

    Please add love, show that All Baptists Care™, by citing more of such testimony?

    PP
  • Pastor Al E Pistle
    Christ's Cōnsiliārius
     
    • Sep 2006
    • 9323

    #2
    Re: Love and Empathy for Injured Mormons

    Originally posted by Poetic Peter View Post
    Perhaps we can save a few of these poor people by hearing their stories?

    Endless stories are found on the internets

    Here's the source of the quote, just one of thousands of identical pages.

    Please add love by citing more of such testimony?

    PP
    We hate Mormons because GOD hates mormons. They are like goths in ties. The reason they have time to ride around on bikes babbling nonsense is that they won't join the military because it is violent. HELLO! Who is fooling whom?
    Emeritus Professor of the Christ Jesus Chair of Theology at Landover Baptist University.
    "God loves you. Let us arrange for you to meet Him".
    Break their teeth, O God, in their mouth.--Psalms 58:6


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    • Poetic Peter
      Christian Poet Emeritus
      Forum Member
      • Nov 2006
      • 1696

      #3
      Re: Love and Empathy for Injured Mormons

      Originally posted by Pastor Al E Pistle View Post
      We hate Mormons because GOD hates mormons. They are like goths in ties. The reason they have time to ride around on bikes babbling nonsense is that they won't join the military because it is violent. HELLO! Who is fooling whom?
      Yes, yes, but we can't make lemons from lemonade.

      I say, consider faking it, showing "love" by showering their cause with
      Baptist Who Cares™ attentions.

      By your leave, Sir, we'll catch more flies with agar than with vinegar.

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      • Seeker
        Thank you Pastor Pistle!
        Forum Member
        • Aug 2007
        • 966

        #4
        Re: Love and Empathy for Injured Mormons

        I am going to just assume that none of you godly people will vote for Mitt Romney then.

        If the Lord leads you to it, he will get you through it.

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        • Seeker
          Thank you Pastor Pistle!
          Forum Member
          • Aug 2007
          • 966

          #5
          Re: Love and Empathy for Injured Mormons

          By your leave, Sir, we'll catch more flies with agar than with vinegar.
          Dude, are you a vegan? That would be honey!

          If the Lord leads you to it, he will get you through it.

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          • Poetic Peter
            Christian Poet Emeritus
            Forum Member
            • Nov 2006
            • 1696

            #6
            Re: Love and Empathy for Injured Mormons

            Originally posted by Seeker View Post
            Dude, are you a vegan? That would be honey!
            No, I am not a "vegan". How can any Christian be "vegan"?

            agar/vinegar

            I am a poet. I hunt down poetical affects but I eat dead cow.

            PP

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            • Poetic Peter
              Christian Poet Emeritus
              Forum Member
              • Nov 2006
              • 1696

              #7
              Re: Love and Empathy for Injured Mormons

              Originally posted by Seeker View Post
              I am going to just assume that none of you godly people will vote for Mitt Romney



              Mitt Romney is a Liar

              Posted: 2007-05-18
              I was raised Mormon. I served a mission for the Mormon church.
              I was married in the Mormon temple. I have studied religion most of my life,
              and Mormonism in particular. So it is with steeled conviction that I call
              Mitt Romney a liar (along with any other *Mormon* who claims that
              polygamy is not part of their religion)....
              ----

              Look, let's keep this clean and loving.
              The thread is all about empathy for injurious Mormons.

              Keep it on track, hmmm?


              PP

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              • Pastor Al E Pistle
                Christ's Cōnsiliārius
                 
                • Sep 2006
                • 9323

                #8
                Re: Love and Empathy for Injured Mormons

                Originally posted by Seeker View Post
                I am going to just assume that none of you godly people will vote for Mitt Romney then.
                Who?
                Emeritus Professor of the Christ Jesus Chair of Theology at Landover Baptist University.
                "God loves you. Let us arrange for you to meet Him".
                Break their teeth, O God, in their mouth.--Psalms 58:6


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                • Poetic Peter
                  Christian Poet Emeritus
                  Forum Member
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 1696

                  #9
                  Re: Love and Empathy for Injured Mormons

                  A jot of the reason why God hates Mormons ((poor things))
                  and why it's hard to stomach Mormons.



                  from:


                  Subject:
                  Replace all Baptismal fonts with giant pickle crocks full of brine, dill, and kosher salt


                  Subject:
                  Text of the talk “The Parable of The Pickle”
                  Date:
                  Apr 09 04:21
                  Author:
                  Reinventing Grace
                  From www.lds.org/conference/talk/display/0,5232,23-1-690-8,00.html

                  Exmormon.org note: This talk is for real. It is not a divine revelation. It was given by an Apostle of the Mormon Church, a spokesman for God, in the April 2007 conference. Excerpts are below in quotations. Bold was added for emphasis. To read the talk in its entirety, click on the lds.org link above.

                  “Ye Must Be Born Again or The Parable of The Pickle”
                  Elder David A. Bednar
                  Of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles

                  Through faith in Christ, we can be spiritually prepared and cleansed from sin, immersed in and saturated with His gospel, and purified and sealed by the Holy Spirit of Promise…

                  As an adult I have reflected upon the things I observed in our kitchen during canning season. This morning I want to discuss some of the spiritual lessons we can learn from the process by which a cucumber becomes a pickle. I invite the Holy Ghost to be with us as we consider the significance of those lessons for me and for you as we come unto Christ and are spiritually reborn.


                  Cucumbers and Pickles

                  A pickle is a cucumber that has been transformed according to a specific recipe and series of steps. The first steps in the process of changing a cucumber into a pickle are preparing and cleaning. I remember many hours spent on the back porch of my home removing stems from and scrubbing dirt off of the cucumbers we had picked. My mom was very particular about the preparing and cleaning of the cucumbers. She had high standards of cleanliness and always inspected my work to make sure this important task was properly completed.

                  The next steps in this process of change are immersing and saturating the cucumbers in salt brine for an extended period of time. To prepare the brine, my mom always used a recipe she learned from her mother—a recipe with special ingredients and precise procedures. Cucumbers can only become pickles if they are totally and completely immersed in the brine for the prescribed time period. The curing process gradually alters the composition of the cucumber and produces the transparent appearance and distinctive taste of a pickle. An occasional sprinkle of or dip in the brine cannot produce the necessary transformation. Rather, steady, sustained, and complete immersion is required for the desired change to occur.

                  The final step in the process requires the sealing of the cured pickles in jars that have been sterilized and purified. The pickles are packed in canning jars, covered with boiling hot brine, and processed in a boiling-water-bath canner. All impurities must be removed from both the pickles and the bottles so the finished product can be protected and preserved. As this procedure is properly followed, the pickles can be stored and enjoyed for a long period of time.

                  To summarize, a cucumber becomes a pickle as it is prepared and cleaned, immersed in and saturated with salt brine, and sealed in a sterilized container. This procedure requires time and cannot be hurried, and none of the essential steps can be ignored or avoided. …


                  Preparing and Cleaning

                  Just as a cucumber must be prepared and cleaned before it can be changed into a pickle, so you and I can be prepared with "the words of faith and of good doctrine" (1 Timothy 4:6) and initially cleansed through the ordinances and covenants administered by the authority of the Aaronic Priesthood.

                  Immersing and Saturating

                  Just as a cucumber is transformed into a pickle as it is immersed in and saturated with salt brine… “

                  The talk goes on for awhile then this:

                  ”My beloved brothers and sisters, I pray this parable of the pickle may help us to evaluate our lives and to better understand the eternal importance of spiritual rebirth. With Alma, "I speak in the energy of my soul" (Alma 5:43).”

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                  • Brother Temperance
                    Senior Usher
                    True Christian™ missionary to the Unsaved Kingdom
                    A very nice young man
                    True Christian™
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 15621

                    #10
                    Re: Love and Empathy for Injured Mormons

                    Originally posted by Pastor Al E Pistle View Post
                    We hate Mormons because GOD hates mormons. They are like goths in ties. The reason they have time to ride around on bikes babbling nonsense is that they won't join the military because it is violent. HELLO! Who is fooling whom?
                    That's rich! Mountain Meadows massacre, anyone?
                    Please add love, show that All Baptists Care™, by citing more of such testimony?
                    I'm sure I've mentioned this sickening story before. One young woman was brought up moron, and she grew up to become a feminist who thought that people would actually want to read something written by a woman. Just disgusting.
                    O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



                    God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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