Advice needed for a friend - he had to speak to a Muslim!!!

[James Dewitt]

Re: Advice needed for a friend - he had to speak to a Muslim!!!

And before anyone judges what I have written, have a read of the old testament, christians were just as bloody 'in the name of god'

Well who claimed that God did not dirty his hands a bit?
Hey you follow the Bible or God will smite you, quite a simple concept. By the way we follow the entire Bible, every word right down to the period.

There is nothing more better than a good stoning. Sadly we have to follow secular law. Its a darn shame, we could get rid of a whole bunch of heathens. That's the one thing I will give them Mooslims they do know how to hold a proper stoning.

[catholic_girl]

Re: Advice needed for a friend - he had to speak to a Muslim!!!

And before anyone judges what I have written, have a read of the old testament, christians were just as bloody 'in the name of god'

[Brother Harold Porter]

Re: Advice needed for a friend - he had to speak to a Muslim!!!

Seriously, do you guys know the difference between a fundamentalist and a true islam? It's a rather peaceful religion, bar one or two things. Those who conducted 9/11 were not true followers but fundamentalist, they translated what they wanted to hear not what was written.

Muhammed was a leader and a very tolerate one at that, he did not force Islam on others, he happily lived side by side. He under went years of brutal attacks by others, before he fled mecca with many others and went to Medina. He got everyone in Medina, all religions, to sign a pact to protect each other. He didn't say "This is now a Muslim Nation!" He was tolerant of all religions, and the only thing he asked was that they all come together as one if Medina were to be attacked. In turn, some Jews did not like the fact that Muhammed was a growing influence and turned on him but the attact failed, he dealt with them, how many others dealt with traitors back in those times. When he finally took mecca back, those traitors who escaped punishment, were invited back in to live. Jews, Islamics and many other faiths lived happily side by side after that.

What leader would invite an enemy to make ammends? Jesus forgave too.

The Qu'ran commands Muslims to stick up for themselves in a defensive battle i.e. if an enemy army attacks, then Muslims are to fight against that army until they stop their aggression. All of the verses that speak about fighting/war in the Qur'an are in this context. Alot of people snip certain phrases out of text

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And slay them wherever you catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter... But if they cease, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful... If they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression" (2:190-193).



You do know that muslims recruited into terrorism are lied too? A majority of the time, a family member or loved one is killed on purpose, then an organization approaches then and says something like 'those Amerians/British killed your wife, we must retaliate' etc.......they are brain washed or brought up by idiots. Even Islam rejects them.

People take the mick, go out of context and wind others up, that is something to remember.

So, before jumping on a bandwagon, do the christian thing and have a little sense to read

"Muhammed" was an orphaned 40 year old goat herding sociopath when he was kicked out of Mecca and banished to live in a cave eating mushrooms. Should it be any surprise that he had a "vision" corroborated only by himself, like the fraud Joseph Smith?

Try again, and please consider brevity rather than endless rants of meaningless twaddle.

[Lisa H]

Re: Advice needed for a friend - he had to speak to a Muslim!!!

Seriously, do you guys know the difference between a fundamentalist and a true islam? It's a rather peaceful religion, bar one or two things. Those who conducted 9/11 were not true followers but fundamentalist, they translated what they wanted to hear not what was written.

Muhammed was a leader and a very tolerate one at that, he did not force Islam on others, he happily lived side by side. He under went years of brutal attacks by others, before he fled mecca with many others and went to Medina. He got everyone in Medina, all religions, to sign a pact to protect each other. He didn't say "This is now a Muslim Nation!" He was tolerant of all religions, and the only thing he asked was that they all come together as one if Medina were to be attacked. In turn, some Jews did not like the fact that Muhammed was a growing influence and turned on him but the attact failed, he dealt with them, how many others dealt with traitors back in those times. When he finally took mecca back, those traitors who escaped punishment, were invited back in to live. Jews, Islamics and many other faiths lived happily side by side after that.

What leader would invite an enemy to make ammends? Jesus forgave too.

The Qu'ran commands Muslims to stick up for themselves in a defensive battle i.e. if an enemy army attacks, then Muslims are to fight against that army until they stop their aggression. All of the verses that speak about fighting/war in the Qur'an are in this context. Alot of people snip certain phrases out of text

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And slay them wherever you catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter... But if they cease, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful... If they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression" (2:190-193).



You do know that muslims recruited into terrorism are lied too? A majority of the time, a family member or loved one is killed on purpose, then an organization approaches then and says something like 'those Amerians/British killed your wife, we must retaliate' etc.......they are brain washed or brought up by idiots. Even Islam rejects them.

People take the mick, go out of context and wind others up, that is something to remember.

So, before jumping on a bandwagon, do the christian thing and have a little sense to read

You do know the Quran tells Muslims to kill non-believers

[catholic_girl]

Re: Advice needed for a friend - he had to speak to a Muslim!!!

Seriously, do you guys know the difference between a fundamentalist and a true islam? It's a rather peaceful religion, bar one or two things. Those who conducted 9/11 were not true followers but fundamentalist, they translated what they wanted to hear not what was written.

Muhammed was a leader and a very tolerate one at that, he did not force Islam on others, he happily lived side by side. He under went years of brutal attacks by others, before he fled mecca with many others and went to Medina. He got everyone in Medina, all religions, to sign a pact to protect each other. He didn't say "This is now a Muslim Nation!" He was tolerant of all religions, and the only thing he asked was that they all come together as one if Medina were to be attacked. In turn, some Jews did not like the fact that Muhammed was a growing influence and turned on him but the attact failed, he dealt with them, how many others dealt with traitors back in those times. When he finally took mecca back, those traitors who escaped punishment, were invited back in to live. Jews, Islamics and many other faiths lived happily side by side after that.

What leader would invite an enemy to make ammends? Jesus forgave too.

The Qu'ran commands Muslims to stick up for themselves in a defensive battle i.e. if an enemy army attacks, then Muslims are to fight against that army until they stop their aggression. All of the verses that speak about fighting/war in the Qur'an are in this context. Alot of people snip certain phrases out of text

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And slay them wherever you catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter... But if they cease, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful... If they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression" (2:190-193).



You do know that muslims recruited into terrorism are lied too? A majority of the time, a family member or loved one is killed on purpose, then an organization approaches then and says something like 'those Amerians/British killed your wife, we must retaliate' etc.......they are brain washed or brought up by idiots. Even Islam rejects them.

People take the mick, go out of context and wind others up, that is something to remember.

So, before jumping on a bandwagon, do the christian thing and have a little sense to read

[James Hutchins]

Re: Advice needed for a friend - he had to speak to a Muslim!!!

I am sorry to hear about your friend, Brother H-B, has he recovered. I do hope he had his KJV and a fist full of chick tracts. It would be simple if had to touch the mudslime as a glove and thorough washing with muriatic acid would purify your pal after the deed. Unfortunately, I know of no cure for having to speak with one of them.
I suppose having the mudslime shipped off to gitmo first is not an option?

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Advice needed for a friend - he had to speak to a Muslim!!!

I think your friend should get talking to this towelhead again and try to get him to repeat what he said. It's clear that this guy is a cherry-picking salad-bar false Muslim, otherwise he would proudly proclaim his intention to annihilate all infidels. Tell your friend to challenge him about why he spits in Allah's eye by refusing to obey his clear commands on the subject of killing all those who refuse to submit, and soon you'll demolish what remains of his faith in his genuine moon god.

Brother Temperance has the correct course here. I would also demand from the Muslim why he thinks God would give His message to humanity to a bunch of people living in Tents in the middle of the desert. This flies in the face of everything in The Bible about Divine Revelation. Tell the Muslim if he can come up with no explanation about this he should convert to Christianity.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Advice needed for a friend - he had to speak to a Muslim!!!

I think your friend should get talking to this towelhead again and try to get him to repeat what he said. It's clear that this guy is a cherry-picking salad-bar false Muslim, otherwise he would proudly proclaim his intention to annihilate all infidels. Tell your friend to challenge him about why he spits in Allah's eye by refusing to obey his clear commands on the subject of killing all those who refuse to submit, and soon you'll demolish what remains of his faith in his fake moon god.

[Wide-Open]

Re: Advice needed for a friend - he had to speak to a Muslim!!!

"Well, I won't kill you if you don't submit."

I think that means he'll have someone else do the job.

Big Bacon shaped IED's are next, mark my words!

[Shela Tansper]

Re: Advice needed for a friend - he had to speak to a Muslim!!!

Does he handle the food or serve the customers because looking at this he shouldn't be working there anyway.

http://www.shiachat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/234951906-is-it-haram-to-work-at-mcdonalds/

[Phebe Carlyle]

Re: Advice needed for a friend - he had to speak to a Muslim!!!

Brother HB,

What a horrifying scenario and your friend had to endure it!

What worries me the most is the muslim stressed that he wouldn't kill your friend, but what about other muslim he tells about the conversation?

Will they kill him or put a fatwa on him to be killed at a later time?

I think the best thing to do is for your friend to report the incident to the boss and perhaps this muslim can be fired for giving a veiled death threat!

These things MUST be taken seriously and these muslims cannot be allowed to continue threatening and scaring GOOD God fearing folk!

YIC

Mrs Phebe Dewitt

[Lisa H]

Re: Advice needed for a friend - he had to speak to a Muslim!!!

Be very careful of this Muslim co-worker. Mohammad had instructed Muslims to tell lies to infidels to get them to convert. Also it is ok for a Muslim to lie to non-muslims. So be careful that he is actually telling the truth about not killing you.

[Meek and Humble]

Hey all. A friend of mine sent me this. I didn't know how to respond, so I thought I'd put it on here to get your opinions.

Spoke with a Muslim today, froze up

Today at work a co-worker and I were on our breaks at the same time. We had to eat out in the lobby (I work at a McDonald's) because the store manager was talking to another employee about something. He was making small talk and then out of nowhere asked me what I thought about the mosque in New York. I said that it shouldn't be built because of what Muslims did on 9/11. He said something about not all Muslims being that way. I said that Islam is a religion that tells its adherents to kill those who won't submit. He said (I'm paraphrasing but it was pretty close to this), "Well, I won't kill you if you don't submit." I kind of suspected that he was a Muslim but now I finally knew. And I have to admit, that last thing he said chilled me to the bone.

Anyway, I had a great opportunity to witness and I failed. I just froze up; I wasn't really sure what to say. I've never actually spoken to a person who's holy book tells him to kill me and everyone else that worships the true Living God. I don't know if I'm asking for advice or just sharing a story.

I have to admit, this was a horrifying reminder that the Muslim threat is all around us. It's frightening that they can imitate regular humans so well