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  • #16
    Re: why is there so much hate?

    Originally posted by proudtobepagan View Post
    ok. well from what i've read abortion aint mentioned in the bible at all....

    In Psalm 104: 14-15, King David writes that God gave us wine in order to "gladden the heart of man." so i guess alcohol is fine

    and, ok, yeah in the book of leviticus it does say that a man shall not lay with another man...... i let you of that one........ but only if you stop eating pork. cuz leviticus says your not allowed. on the positive side tho u can have slaves.
    If you would spend more time reading through the various threads in this Godly forum and less time spewing your pagan hatred, you might learn a few things. All of the topics you seem interested in are covered here in depth.

    The main point is that without Christ, you cannot hope to understand the Bible.

    John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 8:45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
    Who Will Jesus Damn?

    Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

    Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

    Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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    • #17
      Re: why is there so much hate?

      Originally posted by proudtobepagan View Post
      ok. well from what i've read abortion aint mentioned in the bible at all....

      In Psalm 104: 14-15, King David writes that God gave us wine in order to "gladden the heart of man." so i guess alcohol is fine

      and, ok, yeah in the book of leviticus it does say that a man shall not lay with another man...... i let you of that one........ but only if you stop eating pork. cuz leviticus says your not allowed. on the positive side tho u can have slaves.
      Not so fast. The dietary laws are specifically abolished in the NT:
      Acts 10:9 On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:
      10 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,
      11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
      12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
      13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
      14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
      15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

      On the other hand, the anti-sodomy and idolatry laws are not only not repealed, but actively repeated in the NT. There goes your argument.
      O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



      God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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      • #18
        Re: why is there so much hate?

        Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
        If you would spend more time reading through the various threads in this Godly forum and less time spewing your pagan hatred, you might learn a few things. All of the topics you seem interested in are covered here in depth.

        The main point is that without Christ, you cannot hope to understand the Bible.

        John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 8:45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

        so what your saying is that if i dont accept god i won't be able to understand the bible?

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        • #19
          Re: why is there so much hate?

          Originally posted by proudtobepagan View Post
          so what your saying is that if i dont accept god i won't be able to understand the bible?
          Now you're catching on.

          2 Chronicles 15:13
          Whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.



          Any chance you can find the shift key on your keyboard and use normal capitalization?
          Who Will Jesus Damn?

          Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

          Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

          Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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          • #20
            Re: why is there so much hate?

            Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
            Not so fast. The dietary laws are specifically abolished in the NT:
            Acts 10:9 On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:
            10 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,
            11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
            12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
            13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
            14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
            15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

            On the other hand, the anti-sodomy and idolatry laws are not only not repealed, but actively repeated in the NT. There goes your argument.
            what about slaves? can we still have slaves?

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            • #21
              Re: why is there so much hate?

              Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
              Now you're catching on.

              2 Chronicles 15:13
              Whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.



              Any chance you can find the shift key on your keyboard and use normal capitalization?
              Look I found it!

              Anyway back to my point in hand. You say you can't understand the bible unless you accept God. That's fine. However, in Psalm 119:130 we read that the Bible, called the Word of God, is understandable even to the "simple."

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              • #22
                Re: why is there so much hate?

                Originally posted by proudtobepagan View Post
                what about slaves? can we still have slaves?
                That's a very tricky question. I'll let someone else handle it, because it's quite late at night over here and I have to be up in the morning.
                Originally posted by proudtobepagan View Post
                Look I found it!

                Anyway back to my point in hand. You say you can't understand the bible unless you accept God. That's fine. However, in Psalm 119:130 we read that the Bible, called the Word of God, is understandable even to the "simple."
                Yes, if you accept God then He will make your heart simple and cleanse you of all doubt. If not, then he will continue to vex you with doubts and the inability to understand His Word.
                O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



                God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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                • #23
                  Re: why is there so much hate?

                  Originally posted by proudtobepagan View Post
                  Look I found it!

                  Anyway back to my point in hand. You say you can't understand the bible unless you accept God. That's fine. However, in Psalm 119:130 we read that the Bible, called the Word of God, is understandable even to the "simple."
                  Well, apparently you aren't simple enough.

                  You need to become as a child, and follow Jesus completely.

                  He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.
                  Proverbs 28:26

                  Pagans are classic fools.
                  Who Will Jesus Damn?

                  Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                  Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                  Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                  • #24
                    Re: why is there so much hate?

                    Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
                    That's a very tricky question. I'll let someone else handle it, because it's quite late at night over here and I have to be up in the morning.


                    Yes, if you accept God then He will make your heart simple and cleanse you of all doubt. If not, then he will continue to vex you with doubts and the inability to understand His Word.
                    yeah i live in the UK too. it's late for me aswell. i'm just intregued.

                    and my interpretation of the passage is that anybody can understand the bible. but i am clearly wrong whenever i apparently cant understand this simple verse. oh well. silly me

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                    • #25
                      Re: why is there so much hate?

                      I hope in 2 thousands years the world is takin advice and following the word of a random book
                      im gonney preserve my first copy of harry potter! what a fun world it will be then!
                      Last edited by Brother Temperance; 12-10-2007, 01:05 AM. Reason: Queer porno deleted

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                      • #26
                        Re: why is there so much hate?

                        Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                        Well, apparently you aren't simple enough.

                        You need to become as a child, and follow Jesus completely.

                        He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.
                        Proverbs 28:26

                        Pagans are classic fools.
                        You say that I am not simple enough yet you call me a fool. I am very confused. I would say it's because I am simple but that can't be it. Because you said that I wasn't. This is very vexing.

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                        • #27
                          Re: why is there so much hate?

                          hahaha nice dream there getitupme

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                          • #28
                            Re: why is there so much hate?

                            Dear friends.

                            Please forgive my being away for so long. I had important business in Papua. I had to put many witches and grizzly lizzard worshippers to the flame. As you may imagine, it took some time.

                            And now that I have made it to a computer after all my efforts, I see not much has changed. Again we have fools and disbelievers questioning the word of our Lord God. One wonders where to begin?

                            I would like to present some scripture that I feel describes those ignorant Hell bound sodomites who would question our legitimate disgust for all the Godless scum who have never trusted in the Truth that is our Lord. And who dare to question this, God's favorite chuch!


                            "Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupt; they have forsaken the Lord, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger. Why should ye be stricken any more? ye will revolt more and more; the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint. From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no soundness in it, but wounds, and bruises, and putrifying sores; they have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with ointment." Isaiah 1:4-6.

                            yes, the above is an apt description of those who shall one day be tied to the poles of Hell while Lucifer has his way with them. And what shall we do? I believe what follows below is accurate.

                            "The righteous shall rejoice when he seeth the vengeance; he shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked. So that a man shall say, Verily there is a reward for the righteous; verily he is a God that judgeth in the earth." Psalm 58:10,11.

                            What shall I do with these guttless God hating homosexual Pagans? What I have always endeavored to do. I shall follow my Lord Jesus' commands.

                            "And I myself will fight against you with an outstretched hand and with a strong arm, even in anger, and in fury, and in great wrath. And I will smite the inhabitants of this city, both man and beast; they shall die of a great pestilence." Jeremiah 21:5,6.

                            Praise the LORD!

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                            • #29
                              Re: why is there so much hate?

                              Originally posted by proudtobepagan View Post
                              You say that I am not simple enough yet you call me a fool. I am very confused. I would say it's because I am simple but that can't be it. Because you said that I wasn't. This is very vexing.
                              See how much easier life would be if you repented of your sinful pride and accepted Him?


                              EDITED TO ADD: PRAISE JESUS! WELCOME BACK, PASTOR!
                              O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



                              God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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                              • #30
                                Re: why is there so much hate?

                                auck itwas edited
                                guessppl didnt think it was so hot

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