Ockham's Razor is a lie!

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Ockham's Principle of Economy:

It is futile to do with more things that which can be done with fewer

This is clearly a conscious and wicked attempt to remove God from philosophy, science, and the mind of man.

We can account for many things in the natural world. By applying Ockham's Razor, we restrain ourselves from assuming more than is necessary to generate explanations of what we observe.

This may seem perfectly reasonable, but there is one problem with it: God represents an assumption additional to the entities observed in any observable cause and effect chain. If we accept Ockham's Razor, then we cannot import unnecessary assumptions like God into our theories and explanations. We would have to assume that only the men who wrote the Bible are responsible for its existence. We would have to assume that natural laws are sufficient to explain natural events, and that they are not guided by mysterious, praeternatural forces.

Therefore we must reject Ockham's Razor on principle. It is clearly designed for one thing: to slit the throat of the Baby Jesus, even as he layeth in the manger!

[Jedediah]

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I have always considered there to be a right way and a wrong way to apply Ockham's Razor. What you describe is obviously the wrong way and can only blind one to the Truth™, leading them to an eternity of unfathomable torments.

However, when unsaved trash come here to argue their secular "theories" about the origins of the world and mankind (e.g., debunked nonsense like the nebular hypothesis or evolution), things are always needlessly complex. Why should it take billions of years for humans to "evolve" from chimpanzees, which "evolved" from dinosaurs, which "evolved" from trilobites, etc., etc.?

There is a much simpler explanation for all these phenomena:

God did it.

In this way, Ockham's Razor may be used not to sow discord and spread misinformation about the wonders of Creation, but to bring Glory to the Kingdom of Heaven.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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God did it.

Hmmm... I suppose Ockham's Razor could be used SELECTIVELY, as there are many assumptions that Christianity can do without. But if it were applied objectively that would be a DISASTER!

[Jedediah]

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Hmmm... I suppose Ockham's Razor could be used SELECTIVELY, as there are many assumptions that Christianity can do without. But if it were applied objectively that would be a DISASTER!

This is why we have the Holy Spirit to guide us.

[Brother Temperance]

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1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.

[Dan U. Holier]

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...If we accept Ockham's Razor, then we cannot import unnecessary assumptions like God into our theories and explanations...

While I agree with you, I have to point out that apparently misspelled “necessary”. I know, the keys are like next to each other; it happens even to the bests.

BTW, razors are only good for shaving and circumcising (1 Corinthians 11:14, Ezekiel 5:1, Genesis 17:14, Romans 4:11)

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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While I agree with you, I have to point out that apparently misspelled “necessary”. I know, the keys are like next to each other; it happens even to the bests.

BTW, razors are only good for shaving and circumcising (1 Corinthians 11:14, Ezekiel 5:1, Genesis 17:14, Romans 4:11)

Thank you, brother. I think my wife deserves a beating for that.

[Nobar King]

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I was reading up on Occam's razor and found this video. Ed Current explains it in simple American why Christians don't need this theory.

C'mon atheists, do you want a simple explanation or a complicated one?

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

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Occam's razor is superstitious nonsense for those who don't have the sword of Christ to scrape away the lies. Or whatever women shave (my ex-wives used to go through a pack a day of those things - and not the cheap ones neither).

Revelation 19:15
And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

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I am a mere woman, but had always understood William of Ockham's so-called razor to be an old-fashioned way of saying "Keep It Simple, Stupid!" And the simple solution is that absolutely everything comes from Our Lord.

Yes, bad things happen (I am thinking of Biden), and there is Devastation and Sin everywhere. But The Bible provides what the Godless would call a user-manual, to teach us what comes directly from , and to make us aware that Satan, His expelled minion, acts in order to test us. Revelation 12:7-9 is helpful here.

The reason that Ockham's Razor is so confusing is that it was formulated by an Englishman.

[Des]

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I had to look it up. I expected it to be one of those gimmick razors, but it turned out to be something else entirely.
After much consideration I have concluded that it actually is not a lie.

Consider how it works. It boils down to the following: When faced with 2 explanations, the simplest explanation is probably the correct one.

So let's apply this to some common problems.

Problem 1: How was the universe formed?


Answer A: Blah blah big bang blah blah expansion blah blah membrane blah blah vacuum fluctuations blah blah.

Answer B: God did it.

Problem 2: How did life arise?

Answer A: Blah blah primordial ooze blah blah self replicating molecules blah blah possibly RNA blah blah.

Answer B: God did it.

As you can see, answer B is the simplest explanation for both questions, meaning that it is the correct one. In each case, the scientism explanation is full of a lot of technobabble which requires even more and more explanations, so we can safely rule out the more complicated secular answers.

Thank you, mister Occam, whoever you are.

[WWJDnow]

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Scientists are SO gullible. William of Ockham wasn't even a real barber!

[Johny Joe Hold]

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I had to look it up. I expected it to be one of those gimmick razors, but it turned out to be something else entirely.
After much consideration I have concluded that it actually is not a lie.
Consider how it works. It boils down to the following: When faced with 2 explanations, the simplest explanation is probably the correct one.
So let's apply this to some common problems.
Problem 1: How was the universe formed?
Answer A: Blah blah big bang blah blah expansion blah blah membrane blah blah vacuum fluctuations blah blah.
Answer B: God did it.
Thank you, mister Occam, whoever you are.

The same thing when a sinner dies. An autopsy reports "overweight and diabetic weakened the heart and lungs, blah, blah, blah..."

Answer B: God kills sinners.

Ockham scores again.

[Des]

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The same thing when a sinner dies. An autopsy reports "overweight and diabetic weakened the heart and lungs, blah, blah, blah..."

Answer B: God kills sinners.

Ockham scores again.

Precisely, Mayor Hold, precisely!