God has Zero Tolerance for Wicca

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: God has Zero Tolerance for Wicca

The bible tells you do not be like the heathen and chop down trees and adorm them with lights. But yet most of you do this for Christmas.

Prove it, witch. I don't set up any pagan-trees in my house at Christmas time, and neither do any of the other True Christians™ here.

Matthew 7
7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

7:4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
7:5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Sigh. Please read our FAQ before posting. This is a prohibition against hypocritical, hasty, and rash judgment, not against righteous judgment. Please quote text in context. The whole thing about judging others has been discussed at length many times.

If you have "read the Holy Bible over 5 times myself from front to back" and still think the Bible forbids saved Christians from judging others, then you have serious reading comprehension issues. Retain a lawyer and sue your former school district.

And "over 5 times"? Why not just say six? Did your failing public school not teach you to count that high?

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[i'mashamed]

Re: God has Zero Tolerance for Wicca

See how little you know?
Voodoo is catholic withcraft which involves the Holy Bible. Wiccans do not use chicken bones. And I have a job. I work for a nonprofit organization, United Way.
Read about a belief before you post false comments about it. Knowledge is power. I have read the Holy Bible over 5 times myself from front to back. The bible tells you do not be like the heathen and chop down trees and adorm them with lights. But yet most of you do this for Christmas. The adornig of lights on a tree and decorations is a Wicca concept.

Jeremiah 10

10:2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
10:3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
10:4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

Isaiah 40

40:19 The workman melteth a graven image, and the goldsmith spreadeth it over with gold, and casteth silver chains.
40:20 He that is so impoverished that he hath no oblation chooseth a tree that will not rot; he seeketh unto him a cunning workman to prepare a graven image, that shall not be moved.
And on that note, I end with:

Matthew 7

7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

[Deaner]

Re: God has Zero Tolerance for Wicca

Not all of them are pale skin. I am black/puertoriccan

Did you become a voodoo witch because you couldn't find a job? Are you rolling any chicken bones right now?

[i'mashamed]

I am appalled about your article. I am Wiccan and I have never done any of the acts you talk about. You must realize that there are bad apples in every bunch. I can't count high enough at how many times I have heard about a Baptist Minister stealing money from the church, committing adultery or coning people. I would be wrong to say that because of what I see on the news all Baptist Ministers are evil. Same goes for any religion. There are bad apples in all religions. People call themselves Christian, yet they kill people, lie, steal and cheat. Does that mean all Christians are bad? I know this is not so. Just because you had a bad experience with one set does not mean all of them are the same. From what you were explaining these people are not true Wiccans. For we have on law, "And it harm non, due as thee will". This one law pretty much sums up your 10 commandments. Therefore these people you describe can not truly consider themselves Wiccan.

Judge not lest you be judged

Not all of them are pale skin. I am black/puertoriccan
I am not overweight. I am 5'3 at 130 pounds.
I do not participate in festivals.
If I ever got on a skateboard, I would bust my butt.
Motorcycles scare me.
I have a 2008 Nissan Altima. I would not mess it up with bumper stickers.
I have one cat, 2 ferret, fishes, and a dog. And the only reason I have the cat is because it was injured on the street and I took it in. To tell you the truth I don't care for cats. But this one needed help.
My children play video games. I don't. I think it is a waste of money.
As far as Halloween, I do not put any decorations up for any holiday. Another waste of money.
I have never urinated or defecated in public. And for someone to call themselves a Wiccan and do this would be the same as someone calling themselves Christian and killing someone. Did you ever think that these people may just be trying to get revenge on you because of the things you say about them or the way you treat them or even maybe the way you look at them? If they truly a Wiccans, consider the youth that so to your Church. Are they all living the Baptist way and doing the right thing? What they do in Church is a lot different from what they do when they are mad at someone one the street. My daughter's boyfriend is Baptist and his mom is very spiritual. Yet the other day I saw a picture of her boyfriend smoking marijuana. Yet, that does not make me say all Baptist are fake or evil.
And as far as the Devil is concerned, that is a Christian thing and you can have him. We do not believe in Satan or want anything to do with him. We are not Devil worshippers, for you have to believe in something to worship it.

The things that you described seem to be more of Devil worship, Satanism. Therefore you have us confused.

Please read the following essay written by a Christian. I consider this person a true Christian, all of you should follow his ways.
A Christian Speaks of Wicca and Witchcraft
by James Clement Taylor

I am a Christian and not a Wiccan. A Christian is one who has been baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and who has made a personal, free-will decision to commit himself and all his or her life to our Lord and God and Savior, Jesus Christ. Both of these things are true of me. I am a member of St. Mary's Eastern Orthodox Church, Calhan, Colorado. In this paper, I am not speaking as agent for any church, but I am, entirely on my own responsibility, speaking the truth in love, as we Christians are supposed to do.

A Situation of Strife and Shame:

There are many Christians today who believe that anyone who is not a Christian is doomed to an eternity of suffering in hell. Any decent person, believing this, would be compelled to try to save as many people from this fate as possible. But is this belief correct? Jesus Christ, having noted the faith and righteousness of a Roman centurion, a Pagan, proclaimed:

"Assuredly I say to you, I have not found such great faith, not even in Israel! And I say to you that many will come from east and west, and sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. But the sons of the kingdom will be cast out into outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." (Matthew 8:10-12)

If we accept these words as true, and surely we should, then it is clear that heaven will contain many who are not Christians, and hell will contain many who are! Clearly, throughout the Gospels, Jesus Christ sets forth the criteria for entrance into the kingdom of heaven, and those criteria include love, kindness, forgiveness, and a refusal to judge others:

"For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses." (Matthew 6:14-15)

"For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the same measure you use, it will be measured back to you." (Matthew 7:2)

"But go and learn what this means: `I desire mercy and not sacrifice.'" (Matthew 9:13)

"Therefore be merciful, just as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and you shall not be judged. Condemn not, and you shall not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven." (Luke 6:36-38)

Is it not clear? Anyone who fails in these things, will calling himself a Christian save him? Anyone who obeys God in these things, will being unbaptized condemn him? Jesus said, "Not everyone who says to Me, `Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." (Matthew 7:21)

Yet it is not by good works that we earn our way into heaven, because there is no way we can earn the free gift of God's mercy and grace, which alone can save us. But it is clear that it is not by faith, in the sense of sharing the Christian faith, that we are saved, either. The faith which saves us is not faith in the goodness of our works, nor faith that we have the right theology and/or belong to the right church. Rather, it is faith in God, and in His mercy:

"So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who has mercy." (Romans 9:16)

But the Wiccans, you will say, do not have faith in God. Yet by their own theology, they certainly do. Those who call them Satan-worshippers are entirely wrong. They do not worship Satan, or even believe that Satan exists. Instead, they worship a Goddess and a God whom they understand as manifestations of a higher and unknown Deity.

Now if you are a Christian, this will sound familiar to you, and it should. In the Bible we find the following:

"Then Paul stood in the midst of the Areopagus and said, `Men of Athens, I perceive that in all things you are very religious; for as I was passing through and considering the objects of your worship, I even found an altar with this inscription: TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Therefore, The One whom you worship without knowing, Him I proclaim to you" (Acts 17:22-23)

The Wiccans worship the Unknown God, as manifested to them in the form of a Goddess and a God. Therefore, our Bible tells us they worship the same God we do; and if they do not know this, we should know it!

For those of us who are unable to simply stand on God's Word, and must prove to themselves the truth of what it proclaims the holy Apostle John has given us the method for doing this. You have only to attend any public Wiccan ceremony, and test the spirits which are there, to see "whether they are of God" (1 John 4:1). You will find that, while the power manifested there may be less than what you have experienced as a Christian, that power is clearly the power of God.

Dear brothers and sisters in Christ, these people of Wicca have been terribly slandered by us. They have lost jobs, and homes, and places of business because we have assured others that they worship Satan, which they do not. We have persecuted them, and God will hold us accountable for this, you may be sure, for He has said, "Assuredly I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me." (Matthew 25:40)

Let us, from this point onward, repent of our misdeeds and declare that henceforth we shall obey Christ our God, and not judge others or condemn them, so that He will not have to judge and condemn us for our sins.