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  • Johny Joe Hold
    Mayor of Freehold
     
    • Feb 2010
    • 12872

    #1

    Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

    There are times Robertson so disappoints me. How can he do these things and say he is a Christian?

    Now, he is saying the earth is more than 6,000 years old. False, Pat. Don't be so sure you are headed for heaven:

    The 700 Club co-host Pat Robertson has voiced his disagreement with Young Earth Creationists by recently stating on his show that he believes the existence of dinosaurs proves that the earth is not ...
    Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.
  • Rev. Jamar D. Dodson
    Forum Member
    Forum Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 105

    #2
    Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

    Originally posted by Johny Joe Hold View Post
    There are times Robertson so disappoints me. How can he do these things and say he is a Christian?

    Now, he is saying the earth is more than 6,000 years old. False, Pat. Don't be so sure you are headed for heaven:

    http://www.christianpost.com/news/pa...e-wrong-85705/
    So does he think it was like, I don't know, 6,100 years? Or something farfetched like 10,000 years?

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    • Shimei
      Unsaved trash, False Christian gook
      • Mar 2011
      • 203

      #3
      Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

      How does one come to the conclusion that the earth is 6000 or 10000 years of age?

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      • Brother Harold Porter
        Landover Senior Outreach
        Touching Men, Women and Children with the Good News!
        True Christian™
        • Jun 2010
        • 8236

        #4
        Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

        Originally posted by Shimei View Post
        How does one come to the conclusion that the earth is 6000 or 10000 years of age?
        The Bible provides a complete genealogy from Adam to Jesus. You can go through the genealogies and add up the years. You'll get a total that is just over 4,000 years. Add the 2,000 years since the time of Jesus and you get just over 6,000 years since God created everything.

        Is there anything wrong with figuring out the age of the earth this way? No. There is nothing to indicate the genealogies are incomplete. There is nothing to indicate God left anything out. There is nothing in the Bible that indicates in any way that the world is much older than 6,000 years old.

        You should try reading it, my friend.

        In Christ
        Matthew 19:14 "But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven."

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        • Johny Joe Hold
          Mayor of Freehold
           
          • Feb 2010
          • 12872

          #5
          Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

          Originally posted by Brother Harold Porter View Post
          The Bible provides a complete genealogy from Adam to Jesus. You can go through the genealogies and add up the years. You'll get a total that is just over 4,000 years. Add the 2,000 years since the time of Jesus and you get just over 6,000 years since God created everything.

          Is there anything wrong with figuring out the age of the earth this way? No. There is nothing to indicate the genealogies are incomplete. There is nothing to indicate God left anything out. There is nothing in the Bible that indicates in any way that the world is much older than 6,000 years old.

          You should try reading it, my friend.
          Well said, Brother Porter. Others that question you or the Bible should be on notice, this man's mind is like a steel trap. Skeptics, you don't have a chance.
          Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.

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          • Shimei
            Unsaved trash, False Christian gook
            • Mar 2011
            • 203

            #6
            Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

            Originally posted by Brother Harold Porter View Post
            The Bible provides a complete genealogy from Adam to Jesus. You can go through the genealogies and add up the years. You'll get a total that is just over 4,000 years. Add the 2,000 years since the time of Jesus and you get just over 6,000 years since God created everything.

            Is there anything wrong with figuring out the age of the earth this way? No. There is nothing to indicate the genealogies are incomplete. There is nothing to indicate God left anything out. There is nothing in the Bible that indicates in any way that the world is much older than 6,000 years old.

            You should try reading it, my friend.

            In Christ
            Thank you friend. I'm receiving contradictory information in regards to whether genealogies can be used to reconstruct the age of the earth, and whether genealogies itself presents itself for establishing absolute chronologies -- Kings 6:1. I am being taught that Genesis 5 does not possess a complete list. Genesis 5 and 11 exhibit 10-name genealogies that consist of stereotypical patterns. The two genealogies are also linear, meaning that they include only one descendant per generation (segmented genealogies have more; see Genesis 10:1-32). Since genealogies may telescope generations (see above), and since Genesis 5 is highly stylized, it is likely an "open" (selective) genealogy that spans many generations.

            When it comes to the age of the earth, or the earth as a liveable habitat I simply come to the conclusion that it is unknown or to say the very least, I do not know. I mean who can fathom what a formless, empty, watery earth, utterly devoid of light, might have been like? I realize it did not remain in such a dark and barren condition very long, but how long did the Spirit of God hover over the waters or surround and guard over the earth? I believe God directed all aspects of the creation and didn't create a mechanism for evolution and leave the universe to develop to maturity on its own. But when it comes to the age of the earth I have to the conclusion that it is truly unknown.

            I don't believe in Evolution but believe the book of Genesis to be literal, and no I do not insert the gap theory between Genesis 1:1-2 as it would be contradictory to sin entering the world before Adam.

            Any help would be appreciated. Young Earth, Old Earth, or Unknown Earth seems to be the options presented to me thus far in studies.

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            • WilliamJenningsBryan
              True Christian™
               
              • Jan 2007
              • 9384

              #7
              Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

              Pat Robertson is getting senile – here he wants to legalize pot

              Hell's foundations quiver at the shout of praise;
              brothers, lift your voices, loud your anthems raise.
              ...and get off my lawn
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              • Brother Harold Porter
                Landover Senior Outreach
                Touching Men, Women and Children with the Good News!
                True Christian™
                • Jun 2010
                • 8236

                #8
                Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

                Originally posted by Shimei View Post
                I simply come to the conclusion...I do not know...I believe...I have to the conclusion that it is truly unknown...I don't believe...
                Do you see the problem here, my friend? All the conjecture and confusion?

                It need not be such a concern. Trust God with what He says.

                2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

                In Christ
                Matthew 19:14 "But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven."

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                • Shimei
                  Unsaved trash, False Christian gook
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 203

                  #9
                  Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

                  Originally posted by Brother Harold Porter View Post
                  Do you see the problem here, my friend? All the conjecture and confusion?

                  It need not be such a concern. Trust God with what He says.

                  2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

                  In Christ

                  Thank you Brother Harold Porter for the godly advice.

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                  • Matthew Hopkins
                    True Christian™
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 808

                    #10
                    Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

                    Originally posted by Shimei View Post
                    Thank you Brother Harold Porter for the godly advice.
                    Now chew on it, Sneaky, because you ask too many damn questions. And most of the time you don't make any sense either.

                    "You do not exist," or "What is reality?", what in hell is that all meant to mean?

                    Shoot, you don't know enough to go piss in the gasoline, boy.

                    Less of your speechifying, and more praising the LORD, would be more befitting to one such as yourself.

                    Although the words fall from your mouth like little droplets of spattered diarrhoea, I do earnestly pray for you.

                    YBIC

                    Matthew

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                    • Shimei
                      Unsaved trash, False Christian gook
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 203

                      #11
                      Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

                      Originally posted by Matthew Hopkins View Post
                      Now chew on it, Sneaky, because you ask too many damn questions. And most of the time you don't make any sense either.

                      "You do not exist," or "What is reality?", what in hell is that all meant to mean?

                      Shoot, you don't know enough to go piss in the gasoline, boy.

                      Less of your speechifying, and more praising the LORD, would be more befitting to one such as yourself.

                      Although the words fall from your mouth like little droplets of spattered diarrhoea, I do earnestly pray for you.

                      YBIC

                      Matthew
                      You're quite amusing Mr. Matthew Hopkins. I do ask "why" a lot in an attempt to understand why I believe.

                      Referring to other posts outside this thread the questions I asked another, were to examine whether anyone can prove an existence outside of their very own. But if people cannot prove their own existence how are they to prove or disprove another? Regarding reality, I am interested in others, their worldviews -- what people believe about God, ultimate reality, knowledge, ethics, and human nature.

                      I kindly accept your prayer on my behalf, and I offer my sincere prayers for you too, thanking the Lord that not only yourself but others have come into my life through this forum to bring glory to the Lord our God.

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                      • Zechariah Smyth
                        Walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
                        True Christian™
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 15251

                        #12
                        Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

                        Originally posted by Rev. Jamar D. Dodson View Post
                        So does he think it was like, I don't know, 6,100 years? Or something farfetched like 10,000 years?
                        10,000 years? 10,000 years?



                        I can see things being off by a few years because of shoddy contemporary record-keeping (unusual for joos, but hey) or even people telling little white lies about their actual age, but I can't imagine Jesus making a 4,000 year error.

                        YiC,

                        Zech
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                        • Mary Etheldreda
                          Gushing for Jesus
                           
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 23775

                          #13
                          Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

                          Originally posted by Shimei View Post
                          I do ask "why" a lot in an attempt to understand why I believe.
                          That doesn't make sense. Why would a True Christian™ try to understand belief? We are told to believe, not dissect and analyze that belief. Why, that would just lead to skepticism, and perhaps atheism.

                          Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
                          Proverbs 3:5

                          He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool:
                          but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.
                          Proverbs 28:26

                          For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope:
                          for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
                          Romans 8:24

                          For we walk by faith, not by sight
                          2Corinthians 5:7
                          Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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                          • Shimei
                            Unsaved trash, False Christian gook
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 203

                            #14
                            Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

                            Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View Post
                            That doesn't make sense. Why would a True Christian™ try to understand belief? We are told to believe, not dissect and analyze that belief. Why, that would just lead to skepticism, and perhaps atheism.

                            Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
                            Proverbs 3:5

                            He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool:
                            but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.
                            Proverbs 28:26

                            For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope:
                            for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
                            Romans 8:24

                            For we walk by faith, not by sight
                            2Corinthians 5:7
                            Right, one should not go too deeply into the word of God except in the presence of suitable people. I can respect others who have simple and unquestioning faith that might well be disturbed and shaken.

                            1 Peter 3:15

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                            • Mary Etheldreda
                              Gushing for Jesus
                               
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 23775

                              #15
                              Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

                              Originally posted by Shimei View Post
                              Right, one should not go too deeply into the word of God except in the presence of suitable people. I can respect others who have simple and unquestioning faith that might well be disturbed and shaken.

                              1 Peter 3:15
                              Wait, I'm confused. You said you were trying to figure out why you believe the faith. Do you think the pastors of Landover Baptist Church are not suitable enough to go deeply into the Word of God with you?
                              Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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