[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

Thank you friend. I'm receiving contradictory information in regards to whether genealogies can be used...

You see what happens when you listen to satan-inspired men? Listen to demon-possessed researchers in the lucifer-owned colleges and universities of the land and you are sure to be led astray.

Go with God's black-and-white Truth™ instead and you will never see a single contradiction or dilemma anywhere!

When it comes to the age of the earth, or the earth as a liveable habitat I simply come to the conclusion that it is unknown or to say the very least, I do not know.

Well, sure...if you mean, could the earth be 6,000-ish years old, having been created on the morning of, say, October 9th at 9:30 am central-standard time, as opposed to December 8th at midnight, then fine. God hasn't revealed everything to us, just everything we need to know.

I mean who can fathom what a formless, empty, watery earth, utterly devoid of light, might have been like? I realize it did not remain in such a dark and barren condition very long, but how long did the Spirit of God hover over the waters or surround and guard over the earth?

The whole process took just a few evenings and mornings (Genesis 1-2).

I believe God directed all aspects of the creation and didn't create a mechanism for evolution and leave the universe to develop to maturity on its own. But when it comes to the age of the earth I have to the conclusion that it is truly unknown.

God created everything perfectly right the way it is (see Isaiah 45:18), only in six days. Only child-molesting theistic evolutionists believe otherwise.

I don't believe in Evolution but believe the book of Genesis to be literal, and no I do not insert the gap theory between Genesis 1:1-2 as it would be contradictory to sin entering the world before Adam.

Then you shouldn't have any such questions. But that's good to know.

Now you're on the right track!

In Him,

Pastor Ed

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

Old man Robertson has gone soft in his dotage. Next he'll endorse anal sex.

And for the Shimi boy: Please read THIS excellent thread on the age of the earth.

[Shimei]

Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

Old man Robertson has gone soft in his dotage. Next he'll endorse anal sex.

And for the Shimi boy: Please read THIS excellent thread on the age of the earth.

Great video. The part about Carbon 14 especially. Apologist have been stating how inaccurate Carbon 14 dating is when dealing with millions of years. Creationist would like to see evolutionists apply this method to items believed to be millions of years old. The video showed how the dried carcass of a seal that had been dead 30 years, when tested with carbon 14, gave a date of being dead 4600 years. A seal that had recetly died, gave an age of death of 1300 years. The bark of a living tree gave an age of being dead 10000 years.

Likewise an interesting article was written by ApologeticsPress: In June of 1990, Hugh Miller submitted two dinosaur bone fragments to the Department of Geosciences at the University in Tucson, Arizona for carbon-14 analysis. One fragment was from an unidentified dinosaur. The other was from an Allosaurus excavated by James Hall near Grand Junction, Colorado in 1989. Miller submitted the samples without disclosing the identity of the bones. (Had the scientists known the samples actually were from dinosaurs, they would not have bothered dating them, since it is assumed dinosaurs lived millions of years ago—outside the limits of radiocarbon dating.) Interestingly, the C-14 analysis indicated that the bones were from 10,000-16,000 years old—a far cry from their alleged 60-million-year-old age (see Dahmer, et al., 1990, pp. 371-374).

Thanks Pastor Ezekiel.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

Great video. The part about Carbon 14 especially. Apologist have been stating how inaccurate Carbon 14 dating is when dealing with millions of years. Creationist would like to see evolutionists apply this method to items believed to be millions of years old. The video showed how the dried carcass of a seal that had been dead 30 years, when tested with carbon 14, gave a date of being dead 4600 years. A seal that had recetly died, gave an age of death of 1300 years. The bark of a living tree gave an age of being dead 10000 years.

Likewise an interesting article was written by ApologeticsPress: In June of 1990, Hugh Miller submitted two dinosaur bone fragments to the Department of Geosciences at the University in Tucson, Arizona for carbon-14 analysis. One fragment was from an unidentified dinosaur. The other was from an Allosaurus excavated by James Hall near Grand Junction, Colorado in 1989. Miller submitted the samples without disclosing the identity of the bones. (Had the scientists known the samples actually were from dinosaurs, they would not have bothered dating them, since it is assumed dinosaurs lived millions of years ago—outside the limits of radiocarbon dating.) Interestingly, the C-14 analysis indicated that the bones were from 10,000-16,000 years old—a far cry from their alleged 60-million-year-old age (see Dahmer, et al., 1990, pp. 371-374).

Thanks Pastor Ezekiel.

Amen, friend. You said it all right there. I would only like to add that the global scientific community is either incompetent, or conspiratorial. Two seals and a handful of bark is more than sufficient to disprove the whole body of carbon 14 "evidence". For science to ignore these three counter examples, and continually point to the countless other experiments they have performed, not to mention other dating methods, proves that they are clouded by bias and faith far more than any Christian.

All of their empirical evidence, observation, applied and pure research, statistical analysis, peer review... in the end it adds up to nothing but theories.

Their real motivation is not a desire for knowledge, but a hatred for God. They resent Him because He will not allow their anal sex to go unpunished.

[WWJDnow]

Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

I never thought Pat Robertson would turn Judas on us like this.

Is he possessed by a demon, or has someone just been putting alcohol in the Pat Robertson Age-Defying Shake?

[Rev. Jamar D. Dodson]

Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

Amen, friend. You said it all right there. I would only like to add that the global scientific community is either incompetent, or conspiratorial. Two seals and a handful of bark is more than sufficient to disprove the whole body of carbon 14 "evidence". For science to ignore these three counter examples, and continually point to the countless other experiments they have performed, not to mention other dating methods, proves that they are clouded by bias and faith far more than any Christian.

All of their empirical evidence, observation, applied and pure research, statistical analysis, peer review... in the end it adds up to nothing but theories.

Their real motivation is not a desire for knowledge, but a hatred for God. They resent Him because He will not allow their anal sex to go unpunished.

Carbon-14 was pretty much the glue holding the entirety of old earth and evolution theory together. We can confidently dismiss everything these so-called "men of science" have been claiming as well as their supposed evidence. And dispite all the insurmountable evidence against that sissy Dawkins fellow I bet atheist and their ilk will comtinue to worship him. The self deception and mental gymnastics these people have to go through to convince themselves of the reality of their man-made modern fairy tales is beyond ridiculous. It's quite sad really.

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

I never thought Pat Robertson would turn Judas on us like this.

Is he possessed by a demon, or has someone just been putting alcohol in the Pat Robertson Age-Defying Shake?

Or worse, the Devil's marijuana.

[RealNutjob666XD]

Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

poeple, the earth is a lot older then just 6000 years. really, are you all blind. their was a good 4000 years before the bible and then there was another 200 000 or so years when there was no humans. and you know what, it may even be longer. not one of you have the truth, you are all to blind to see. adam and eve were not the first and god didn't make it all. why do you all just think about it with out thinking about any religion at all. then you may find the answer. and guess what, i'm well on my way to the truth and you are all so far be hide.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

poeple, the earth is a lot older then just 6000 years. really, are you all blind. their was a good 4000 years before the bible and then there was another 200 000 or so years when there was no humans. and you know what, it may even be longer. not one of you have the truth, you are all to blind to see. adam and eve were not the first and god didn't make it all. why do you all just think about it with out thinking about any religion at all. then you may find the answer. and guess what, i'm well on my way to the truth and you are all so far be hide.

Yet you blindly believe "scientists" who tell you the Earth is 3.4 billion () years old.

Who's gullible now?

Also: you have been asked nicely a couple of times to make a thread of your own in the Introduction Forum. Tell us what church you go to, what your favorite Bible verse is, and how you came to find Jesus.

YiC,

Zech

[MisterM]

Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

Two seals and a handful of bark is more than sufficient to disprove the whole body of carbon 14 "evidence". For science to ignore these three counter examples, and continually point to the countless other experiments

That is THE problem with the scientists. They are so obsessed with their "truth" that if you debunk one evidence of their theory, they just totally ignore the fact that they were once wrong and just find a new evidence. How can you believe in any theory if scientists have been proven wrong so many times in history?

YiC, M

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

poeple, the earth is a lot older then just 6000 years. really, are you all blind. their was a good 4000 years before the bible and then there was another 200 000 or so years when there was no humans.

"are you all blind."

I have to ask you a question in return: Were you there?

The Bible's history is a factual account, written by people who were there, of all that has happened since creation. Anything else is just speculation.

I get a little weary of atheists coming on the site and pretending they know something about the history of the earth when they are just making it up

[Rev. Jamar D. Dodson]

Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

poeple, the earth is a lot older then just 6000 years. really, are you all blind. their was a good 4000 years before the bible and then there was another 200 000 or so years when there was no humans. and you know what, it may even be longer. not one of you have the truth, you are all to blind to see. adam and eve were not the first and god didn't make it all. why do you all just think about it with out thinking about any religion at all. then you may find the answer. and guess what, i'm well on my way to the truth and you are all so far be hide.

Yes, I'm sure a guy convinced he is a real vampire is totally the one to question anyone else's sense of reality. And as usual the "truth" equates to whatever "theory of the month" secular science is backing today. That is, until it is proven wrong and they jump to the newest theory. Truth is eternal, not whimisical.

Read the KJV 1611 BIBLE.

[Creationist Ron]

Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

poeple, the earth is a lot older then just 6000 years. really, are you all blind. their was a good 4000 years before the bible and then there was another 200 000 or so years when there was no humans. and you know what, it may even be longer. not one of you have the truth, you are all to blind to see. adam and eve were not the first and god didn't make it all. why do you all just think about it with out thinking about any religion at all. then you may find the answer. and guess what, i'm well on my way to the truth and you are all so far be hide.

God didn't create it all? Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the Heaven, and the Earth."

Adam, and eve aren't the first people? Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in his own Image, in the Image of God created he him; male and female created he them."
Genesis 1:28 "And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the foul of the air, and over euery living thing that mooveth upon the earth."

Big Bang Theory Disproven. Eveloutilin Disproven.

[Practice in Private]

Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

How does one come to the conclusion that the earth is 6000 or 10000 years of age?

I'd assume from piles upon piles of fossil evidence and carbon dating.

I consider myself a Christian, and I do believe our Lord created the earth and heavens, but I created an account on this forum because frankly, I'm getting a little tired of my fellow worshippers who feel so arrogant as to declare something as "absolute truth" because a book and Sunday services tell them as such.

I choose to worship our Lord the way that seems logical. Our "interpretations" of the Bible can very well be askewed from what really may be real. For all we know, God created us in image, but only after intense experimenting over millions of years. After all, as most Christians can agree, he has been around since eternity.

I think the concept of evolution, under our Lord's watchful eye, is a very real possibility. But I don't know for certain, and I won't judge others (or feverishly inform them that God will judge them) for believing otherwise.

Because after all, isn't this America? Where our citizens are free to believe whatever they want to believe, as long as it does not interfere with the workings of the state? Let us not judge our fellow man for simply going off on a limb and seeking other possibilities of our origins.

Free of judgement upon those who do not judge,
my name is Brian,
and I appreciate the opportunity to speak my mind.

[Rylee Cline]

Re: Pat Robertson: The Earth is more than 6000 years old!

Yup, that makes sense.