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  • Kornissues9
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    #1

    Jesus...

    Simple Question.

    Why do all of you here at landover baptist believe in jesus? not a mockery or anything just a simple question.

    And

    Do some of you actually send $100 a Week to be "Guarenteed Saved on the Rapture"?

    Answers?
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    Re: Jesus...

    Originally posted by Kornissues9 View Post
    Simple Question.

    Why do all of you here at landover baptist believe in jesus? not a mockery or anything just a simple question.

    And

    Do some of you actually send $100 a Week to be "Guarenteed Saved on the Rapture"?

    Answers?

    Did you Also know that "Yeshua of Nazareth" is the actual REAL name of Jesus Christ?! i just saw it in your "false Religons" Section.

    Jesus is a english word, Translated from the hebrew word Yeshua.

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    • Pastor Billy-Reuben
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      Re: Jesus...

      Welcome back, Joe.

      Originally posted by Kornissues9 View Post
      Why do all of you here at landover baptist believe in jesus? not a mockery or anything just a simple question.
      Because Jesus washed away all of my sins the moment I got saved. I never felt so free before my burden of sin was taken away.

      I know that I deserve an eternity in Hell for my sin, but God sent His Son to pay the price for me so that I can be saved. Praise the sweet name of Jesus!

      What about you, friend? Do you love Jesus too?

      Originally posted by Kornissues9 View Post
      Do some of you actually send $100 a Week to be "Guarenteed Saved on the Rapture"?
      I didn't read about that, but it sounds like it might have been tongue in cheek.

      Originally posted by Kornissues9 View Post
      Did you Also know that "Yeshua of Nazareth" is the actual REAL name of Jesus Christ?!

      Jesus is a english word, Translated from the hebrew word Yeshua.
      Well, that MIGHT have been His real name if he or the people around Him spoke Hebrew, but Jesus spoke Aramaic.

      If you want to learn how to say Jesus' name as He would have said it, you can hear His name spoken in Aramaic here.

      Pastor Billy-Reuben
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      • Kornissues9
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        Re: Jesus...

        Originally posted by Pastor Billy-Reuben View Post
        Welcome back, Joe.


        Because Jesus washed away all of my sins the moment I got saved. I never felt so free before my burden of sin was taken away.

        I know that I deserve an eternity in Hell for my sin, but God sent His Son to pay the price for me so that I can be saved. Praise the sweet name of Jesus!

        What about you, friend? Do you love Jesus too?


        I didn't read about that, but it sounds like it might have been tongue in cheek.


        Well, that MIGHT have been His real name if he or the people around Him spoke Hebrew, but Jesus spoke Aramaic.

        If you want to learn how to say Jesus' name as He would have said it, you can hear His name spoken in Aramaic here.

        Pastor Billy-Reuben

        Well thats good news to hear, i just thought that most of you, because it really does seem it are "christians" because you dont want to get "ass raped by satan" i too am the same as you.

        Yeah i found a link on this site somewhere, where some of you send $100 a week to this site i think to be guarenteed to be saved in the rapture, im sorry but thats as bad as the cathlics, they too want money so they can say to them they are "Saved", its so wrong and to find out this site does that too...

        How do you know he spoke that language, im pretty sure it was hebrew back then, the first ever bible was in hebrew.
        And i am pretty sure his name is Yeshua, that is the hebrew word for jesus, so to have "messianic jews" to be in your false religion is completly stupid! the messianic jews are the ones who believe in christ, except they call him his real name, i think its bad how you all hate the jews, no i dont think it i know it, what about you pastor what do you think of the jews?

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        • Pastor Billy-Reuben
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          Re: Jesus...

          Originally posted by Kornissues9 View Post
          Well thats good news to hear, i just thought that most of you, because it really does seem it are "christians" because you dont want to get "ass raped by satan" i too am the same as you.
          The sermons about the danger's of Hell aren't about trying to scare folks into being saved -- they are about trying to scare folks out of being damned. You can't scare folks into Heaven.

          People are content to live in their sin, blissfully unaware of the serious danger they are in. Why would such a person seek out Jesus? We have to warn them about the consequences of sin, and then let them know that there is a Way out.

          Originally posted by Kornissues9 View Post
          Yeah i found a link on this site somewhere, where some of you send $100 a week to this site i think to be guarenteed to be saved in the rapture,
          I haven't read that. You'll have to post the link, but it sounds like something that might have been said tongue-in-cheek.

          Originally posted by Kornissues9 View Post
          im sorry but thats as bad as the cathlics, they too want money so they can say to them they are "Saved", its so wrong and to find out this site does that too...
          A person who is saved will naturally tithe generously and joyfully, but that's not a condition to being saved. You can't buy your way into Heaven.

          Originally posted by Kornissues9 View Post
          How do you know he spoke that language, im pretty sure it was hebrew back then, the first ever bible was in hebrew.
          Aramaic is related to Hebrew in the same way that French or Spanish are related to Latin. It is a very old language, and by the time the Jews came out of captivity, Hebrew was no longer the dominant language. Hardly anyone spoke Hebrew in Jesus' time.

          Direct evidence that Jesus spoke Aramaic comes from the untranslated Aramaic words in the Gospels themselves, such as "Talitha cum" (Mark 5:41, "Little girl, get up!"); "Abba" (Mark 14:36. "Father"); and "Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachtani?" (Mark 15:34, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?")

          The Old Testament was written in Hebrew, but the Gospels were first written in Aramaic, then translated to Greek, and most of the rest of the New Testament was first written in Greek.

          Originally posted by Kornissues9 View Post
          i think its bad how you all hate the jews, no i dont think it i know it, what about you pastor what do you think of the jews?
          I don't hate the Jews -- I love them. I want them to give up their false religion and come to know Jesus Christ. If I hated them I would keep the Gospel to myself and let them live in their sin.

          Should I assume you hate Catholics because of your comment about "thats as bad as the cathlics"? I didn't. My first guess is that you would also prefer that they give up their false religion and come to know Jesus Christ.

          Pastor Billy-Reuben
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          • Kornissues9
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            Re: Jesus...

            Originally posted by Pastor Billy-Reuben View Post
            The sermons about the danger's of Hell aren't about trying to scare folks into being saved -- they are about trying to scare folks out of being damned. You can't scare folks into Heaven.

            People are content to live in their sin, blissfully unaware of the serious danger they are in. Why would such a person seek out Jesus? We have to warn them about the consequences of sin, and then let them know that there is a Way out.


            I haven't read that. You'll have to post the link, but it sounds like something that might have been said tongue-in-cheek.


            A person who is saved will naturally tithe generously and joyfully, but that's not a condition to being saved. You can't buy your way into Heaven.


            Aramaic is related to Hebrew in the same way that French or Spanish are related to Latin. It is a very old language, and by the time the Jews came out of captivity, Hebrew was no longer the dominant language. Hardly anyone spoke Hebrew in Jesus' time.

            Direct evidence that Jesus spoke Aramaic comes from the untranslated Aramaic words in the Gospels themselves, such as "Talitha cum" (Mark 5:41, "Little girl, get up!"); "Abba" (Mark 14:36. "Father"); and "Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachtani?" (Mark 15:34, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?")

            The Old Testament was written in Hebrew, but the Gospels were first written in Aramaic, then translated to Greek, and most of the rest of the New Testament was first written in Greek.


            I don't hate the Jews -- I love them. I want them to give up their false religion and come to know Jesus Christ. If I hated them I would keep the Gospel to myself and let them live in their sin.

            Should I assume you hate Catholics because of your comment about "thats as bad as the cathlics"? I didn't. My first guess is that you would also prefer that they give up their false religion and come to know Jesus Christ.

            Pastor Billy-Reuben

            Fair enough i agree with all of that and ive learnt something new of the Aramaic language. i'll look into that then.
            You seem like the only person on this who is actually genuine and know whats he's on about which i respect.

            But Surley you know that half of the people on here, not going to name any, are not really, well there not really following christ, as they are EXTREMLY RACIST, For example calling black people "nappy haired ho's" and Pakistani people "Camel piss Drinkers" it's extremly harsh and shouldnt be tolerated, especially the smiles to portray it aswell.
            You have told me before you will not find any pastors being racist and such but for people who are obviously respected on here to just be like that, and to be extremly steriotypical like "All brits are going to Hell".

            For someone who knows so much and is obivously a true follower of christ i think you should tell your fellow Friends on here that the jews are gods people, You should also tell them that messianic jews are exactly the same as you and me they are not a false religion, jesus said himself salvation is of the jews.

            Do you believe that jesus was jewish or not? if not could you explain why please.

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            • Pastor Billy-Reuben
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              Re: Jesus...

              Originally posted by Kornissues9 View Post
              But Surley you know that half of the people on here, not going to name any, are not really, well there not really following christ,
              On the contrary, they are quite zealous (I won't say overzealous, because one cannot be too zealous in following Christ).

              Originally posted by Kornissues9 View Post
              as they are EXTREMLY RACIST, For example calling black people "nappy haired ho's"
              If I recall correctly, it was YOU that Thumper called a "nappy haired ho", but she knew you aren't black. So, no one called any black person a "nappy haired ho".

              You were acting in the flesh, making very heated and angry posts, and she was attempting to diffuse the situation by catching you off guard with some good old-fashioned silliness.

              Originally posted by Kornissues9 View Post
              and Pakistani people "Camel piss Drinkers" it's extremly harsh and shouldnt be tolerated, especially the smiles to portray it aswell.
              If I were in the desert and out of water, I would drink camel piss to survive if I had to.

              Originally posted by Kornissues9 View Post
              jesus said himself salvation is of the jews.
              He did say that, but then the Jews rejected Him and tried to put a stop to Christianity. You've read Acts, haven't you? The point is, after the Jews rejected Him, Salvation was made available to anyone who believes.

              Originally posted by Kornissues9 View Post
              Do you believe that jesus was jewish or not? if not could you explain why please.
              Don't get the Jewish race mixed up with the Jewish religion.

              Jesus was not a follower of the Jewish religion. He explicitly rejected the Jewish faith.

              As for being a member of the Jewish race, well, I suppose you could say that He was half Jewish on His mother's side.

              Pastor Billy-Reuben
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              • Kornissues9
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                Re: Jesus...

                Originally posted by Pastor Billy-Reuben View Post

                Jesus was not a follower of the Jewish religion. He explicitly rejected the Jewish faith.


                Pastor Billy-Reuben
                He didnt actually reject the jewish faith, he only rejected the 700+ commandments the jewish people of that time added on to the bible.
                People Called jesus Rabbi, He even wore prayer Shawls, his whole family line were jews. There's hundreds more to prove it aswell, his 12 diciples were jews too.

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                • Pastor Billy-Reuben
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                  Re: Jesus...

                  Originally posted by Kornissues9 View Post
                  He didnt actually reject the jewish faith, he only rejected the 700+ commandments the jewish people of that time added on to the bible.
                  Those 700+ commandments that the Pharisees and Maccabees added ARE the Jewish faith. What we know today as the Jewish faith didn't originate until after the time of Malachi.

                  What you said is like saying someone doesn't reject the Christian faith, they only reject the teachings of Christ.

                  Oh, and Jesus did explicitly reject the Jewish faith. It's in John 7.

                  Originally posted by Kornissues9 View Post
                  People Called jesus Rabbi,
                  Rabbi just means teacher, and He was a teacher.

                  Originally posted by Kornissues9 View Post
                  He even wore prayer Shawls,
                  Do you have a biblical reference for that?

                  Originally posted by Kornissues9 View Post
                  his whole family line were jews.
                  Right, as in Jewish race, meaning they were descended from Judah.

                  Pastor Billy-Reuben
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                  • Kornissues9
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                    Re: Jesus...

                    Reference for the prayer shawls is.

                    - The prayer shawls reveals the name of god, Num 15:37-49
                    - The prayer shawl reveals the word of god, Ps. 33:4-6
                    - The prayer shawl draws one to god Ps 122:1
                    - The prayer shawl and a double portion of miracles Acts: 2:2-4
                    - the Prayer shawl in the ministry of jesus, Matt. 9-20,21.

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                    • Pastor Billy-Reuben
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                      Originally posted by Kornissues9 View Post
                      Reference for the prayer shawls is.

                      - The prayer shawls reveals the name of god, Num 15:37-49
                      - The prayer shawl reveals the word of god, Ps. 33:4-6
                      - The prayer shawl draws one to god Ps 122:1
                      - The prayer shawl and a double portion of miracles Acts: 2:2-4
                      - the Prayer shawl in the ministry of jesus, Matt. 9-20,21.
                      No, Matthew 9:20-21 only says garment.
                      And, behold, a woman, which was diseased with an issue of blood twelve years, came behind him, and touched the hem of his garment: For she said within herself, If I may but touch his garment, I shall be whole.

                      All this passage proves is that He didn't strut around naked.

                      The reference in Numbers also says "garment".

                      I don't think you have the right verse references for Acts or Psalms. Acts 2:2-4 is about the miracle of the tongues and has no mention of clothing of any sort. Neither of your Psalms references mention clothing either.

                      Besides, this is a red herring. Whether Jesus wore the kinds of clothes that were in fashion for Galilean religious teachers of His day or if He invented His own style says nothing about whether He accepted or rejected the Jewish faith. John 7 is the definitive answer to that question.

                      Pastor Billy-Reuben
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                      • lilith
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                        #12
                        Re: Jesus...

                        Originally posted by Kornissues9 View Post
                        Simple Question.

                        Why do all of you here at landover baptist believe in jesus? not a mockery or anything just a simple question.

                        And

                        Do some of you actually send $100 a Week to be "Guarenteed Saved on the Rapture"?

                        Answers?

                        Why? I believe THAT comes under the category of "Mentally challenged."
                        In order to be old & wise,you must first be young & stupid.

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                        • Praise El Roi
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                          "As for being a member of the Jewish race, well, I suppose you could say that He was half Jewish on His mother's side"

                          Excuse me for my ignorance, and if this is just a "joke" then forgive me. But wasn't Jesus' earthly father jewish as well? You can trace Jesus' genealogy through Joseph to David, who was Jewish.

                          Sorry for the double post, but wouldn't Joseph have to be Jewish in order to marry Mary anyway? I thought they were not allowed to marry any other race besides their own.

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                          • Pastor Billy-Reuben
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                            Originally posted by Praise El Roi View Post
                            "But wasn't Jesus' earthly father jewish as well? You can trace Jesus' genealogy through Joseph to David, who was Jewish.
                            Joseph wasn't Jesus' biological father; he was Jesus' step father. The Holy Ghost was Jesus' biological father.

                            Matt 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

                            Pastor Billy-Reuben
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