Deism

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I figured this forum would be a good place to find some understanding about my fallout with jesus. I have given it thought and found that we cannot know god. Whatever God is must have just set the universe into motion. For those of you that don't know what deism is here is the wiki article pretty accurate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism

Many of the founding fathers of this country were deists. Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, George Washington, Ben Franklin and other people like Abe Lincoln, Aristotle, Voltaire, and many other freethinkers.

So can you guys save me from being tortured for eternity by demons in the middle of the earth because Christianity is the most peaceful and loving religion.

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

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I figured this forum would be a good place to find some understanding about my fallout with Jesus.

If you figured we would understand you turning your back on the Lord, you figured horribly wrong. Fall to your knees immediately and beg Jesus to forgive you for whatever terrible sin it was you committed! And capitalize His name. You may be angry at Him, but you should still respect Him.

[Tanner]

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But Jesus is the sun. Christianity is just a parody of sun worship where Jesus is substituted for the sun. Pagan sun worship. Prayer is actually a form of witch craft which has no real effect. If God is all powerful then why would his decisions be swayed by his creation? How come the bible talks about crazy stuff like unicorns and demons? I see 0 evidence to believe in the bible as the word of God. But then again I must just be one of these heathen sinners that will by the loving grace of God spend eternity in hell.

[Tanner]

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But Jesus is the sun. Christianity is just a divine revelation of sun worship where Jesus is substituted for the sun. Pagan sun worship. Prayer is actually a form of witch craft which has no real effect. If God is all powerful then why would his decisions be swayed by his creation? How come the bible talks about crazy stuff like unicorns and demons? I see 0 evidence to believe in the bible as the word of God. But then again I must just be one of these heathen sinners that will by the loving grace of God spend eternity in hell.

The word Holy Spirit is substituted for divine revelation? Oh Jesus save me!

[JennyD]

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I see 0 evidence to believe in the bible as the word of God. But then again I must just be one of these heathen sinners that will by the loving grace of God spend eternity in hell.

Ah, so that's why you came here. To mock Jesus, and to spread your false doctrine of Deism.

Why are you so intent on promoting these silly superstitions of yours, instead of coming to Christ? Are you mentally disturbed, perhaps, and losing your grip on reality?

Jesus can save you, but only if you give up your ridiculous superstitious beliefs first!

[Justina Thyme]

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But Jesus is the sun. Christianity is just a divine revelation of sun worship where Jesus is substituted for the sun. Pagan sun worship. Prayer is actually a form of witch craft which has no real effect. If God is all powerful then why would his decisions be swayed by his creation? How come the bible talks about crazy stuff like unicorns and demons? I see 0 evidence to believe in the bible as the word of God. But then again I must just be one of these heathen sinners that will by the loving grace of God spend eternity in hell.

Take heed, Tanner. I strongly urge you to read the following and then pray the Spiritual Warfare prayer you'll find in my signature line:

DEMONS ARE FOR REAL

You know, some of you have yet to deal with the problems in your life that can be caused by demons. We don't believe that EVERYTHING is caused by demons, just MOST THINGS. We are always reading about the miracles that go on in DELIVERANCE ministries. I mean, legs growing out and the whole ten yards, of the mighty power of God, in the name of our Lord and Savior, JESUS Christ.

Some of you still aren't even saved, which means when you die, you go to a place where your hamburger will get overcooked. You are a good candidate to go to hell if you do things you ought not to do. Here is a good test question. Would JESUS do this? What you DO is not really the issue. It is what you DON'T do that matters.

If you DON'T ask JESUS to come into your life, and forgive you of all your sins, HE said you CAN'T go to Heaven. It doesn't matter what you think. It doesn't matter what your Pastor thinks. It doesn't matter what your Rabbi thinks. It doesn't matter what your Priest thinks. It doesn't matter what I think. It only matters what JESUS thinks.

Some of you have many problems. Some of you are sick all the time. Some of you barely make it from payday to payday. God punishes sin. Some people get punished quicker than others, but it is only a matter of time until your sin catches up with you. Look at the AIDS cases. Except for the few innocent people, everyone involved are having illicit sex, doing drugs, or doing things that violate the common sense rules of God. Get serious with JESUS. GET SAVED! Make a commitment.
If you don't get your miracle after that, you need DELIVERANCE. If you have cancer, you may need to forgive some people before those demons come out. If you have certain other diseases, you may need to change your eating habits before the demons come out.

DELIVERANCE is not a one time shot. It is a daily walk. You can't walk in DELIVERANCE daily until you are first walking with JESUS daily.

Get some help from others or do SELF DELIVERANCE. By the way, the demons are on the INSIDE of you in your mind, will, emotions, body, personality, and all the nooks and crannies.

Your Spirit (where the Holy Spirit resides) cannot be inhabited by demons. However, they indeed do surround your Spirit so that you cannot be the total instrument God wants you to be.

[Tanner]

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Demons are a big reason I stopped believing in Christianity. How can people in this day and age still think that there are demons in their homes, computers, and showers? Where the fuck are these demons and why can't I see any?

[snottyduck]

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Demons are a big reason I stopped believing in Christianity. How can people in this day and age still think that there are demons in their homes, computers, and showers? Where the piffle are these demons and why can't I see any?

The only demons that exist are those you make up yourself. Of course religion has to invent some bad and awful things, otherwise it would not hold any power because you have power if you can create fear. Many religions have created a thing called hell, if you don't follow certain rules you are condemned to that hell, and thus people are afraid and franticly obey whatever is written in the books of that religion.

Some religions however (like Wicca) have no hell and thus many of other religions oppose against it because no hell = no fear = no power for those who lead those religion.

[Justina Thyme]

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Demons are a big reason I stopped believing in Christianity. How can people in this day and age still think that there are demons in their homes, computers, and showers? Where the piffle are these demons and why can't I see any?

Jesus cast out DEMONS from people on numerous occasions. Are you calling Him a liar and/or a fake? And the reason, young man, that people "still think" these things is because these things are true:

ONLY TWO CLASSES OF PEOPLE:

BELIEVERS AND NON BELIEVERS

Did you ever realize that at one time there were only Jews who believed in our Lord God Almighty, and other people who did not believe in our Lord God Almighty. TWO CLASSES of people -- BELIEVERS and NON BELIEVERS.

The "Jewish Bible" of that day (and today) told you how to live properly, and the consequences of not living properly. It also told of the Messiah (JESUS CHRIST) to come. When the Jews did not accept JESUS as the Messiah, a THIRD CLASS of people arose --the CHRISTIAN.

Once Christianity came on the scene, things went back to TWO CLASSES -- BELIEVERS and NON BELIEVERS. Remember that our Lord God Almighty sent JESUS to the earth!

Now, when JESUS said HE was the ONLY WAY to get to heaven, he was addressing the only TWO CLASSES of people -- BELIEVERS and NON BELIEVERS. If you accept JESUS and follow His teaching, you become a Christian.

In two thousand years, the message of JESUS has not changed. Man, however, has changed and added things to fit their man made denomination, contrary to the "Christian Bible" as we know it, which has withstood the test for two thousand years.
The "Jewish Bible" is still good after six thousand years.

This leads us to the fact that JESUS today is still addressing only TWO CLASSES of people -- BELIEVERS (IN JESUS ) and NON BELIEVERS.

So now, when someone says something like "What makes you think Christianity is the only Religion that can get you to Heaven?", the answer is simple.

Things have not changed with JESUS. There are still ONLY TWO CLASSES of people -- BELIEVERS and NON BELIEVERS.

JESUS said NON BELIEVERS cannot go to Heaven, and BELIEVERS (which means followers of CHRIST) can.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Demons are a big reason I stopped believing in Christianity. How can people in this day and age still think that there are demons in their homes, computers, and showers? Where the piffle are these demons and why can't I see any?

Sorry kid. You need to be over 18 to post here. Come back if Jesus lets you live that long.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

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But Jesus is the sun. Christianity is just a divine revelation of sun worship where Jesus is substituted for the sun. Pagan sun worship.

It sounds like someone watched the Zeitgeist move, and believed everything it said on faith without questioning. Ever wonder why that movie doesn't cite any sources? Because their only source is the long ago discredited work of one Kersey Graves, The World's Sixteen Crucified Saviors.

Even Atheists consider Graves' work to be unreliable and worthless.

Pastor Billy-Reuben