[loveforchrist]

Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.

There is a huge difference between correcting and beating your children.

You're right. You are abusing your children if you don't hit them. Don't think of it as "striking them" think of it as "shaping them into good Christians"... My father beat me mercilessly, and I turned out just fine.

I feel like I had this conversation before... Try reading the entire thread before you post next time champ.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.

hopefully Jesus will hear the crys from the abused children you wish to beat on.

Still haven't figured out the difference between abuse and correction have you.

There is a huge difference between correcting and beating your children.

I should hope you know the difference?

I really want to hear this, because the Bible says differently.

From loveofChrists post

But what does the Bible have to say about all this?
It's on my side!

Proverbs 13:24
- He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes

Proverbs 23:13
- Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.

Proverbs 29:15
- The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame.

Sirach 30:1
- He that loveth his son causeth him oft to feel the rod, that
he may have joy of him in the end.

The Bible has a very clear guide to parenting. A father can benefit from the word of the Lord on this subject especially

[joedirtforbrains]

Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.

There is a huge difference between correcting and beating your children.

I should hope you know the difference?

[loveforchrist]

Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.

hopefully Jesus will hear the cries from the abused children you wish to beat on.

I do not WISH to beat on children. I DO beat children. And Jesus hears it. And he pats me on the back and smiles down on me whenever I strike any of my sons. Sometimes He helps.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.

hopefully Jesus will hear the crys from the abused children you wish to beat on.

The Bible commands that children be beaten. What's wrong with you, anyway? Are you a fag or something?

[joedirtforbrains]

Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.

hopefully Jesus will hear the crys from the abused children you wish to beat on.

[AngelClark]

Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.

SHOUT GLORY Brother LFC.

NOT beating them is child abuse!

btw, have you joined our parenting group yet? You would be a wonderful addition to our GODLY Group.


A Parent's Guide to Discipline and Dealing with Rebellious Children




Here is another excellent thread on How to Make Children Behave in Church. Our youth need all the help they can get since we are living in the Last Days. ENJOY!

I just joined Sister, How are we doing today and I'll be praying for you in your time of need as well. I'm sure you will come out on top again, Jesus doesn't let TC fall. God Bless

[gypsyr0ad]

Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.

lol
ok then.

I suppose you just know everything there is to know about life then and I am wrong because you say so and so do your new friends.

this forum is of only a small percent of the places that REAL Christians and Gods people come to visit and share the Word.

You have your judgment day just like I will.

[loveforchrist]

Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.

I personally thank you for taking the time to reply to my posts, however I do not understand the harsh words directed at me, which results in my conclusion that you must have been had quite a few flame threads here and are sick of them.

I wont even bother to further debate with you.

Believe it or not, I'm pretty new here. This was the first thread I have ever made (besides my introduction thread). I only get flame from outsiders like you, and to be honest, every long time member is against you. I like this website because almost everyone shares my views. You aren't welcome here. I don't know where you got the impression that you were.

[gypsyr0ad]

Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.

I personally thank you for taking the time to reply to my posts, however I do not understand the harsh words directed at me, which results in my conclusion that you must have been had quite a few flame threads here and are sick of them.

I wont even bother to further debate with you.

[loveforchrist]

Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.

I do not call you names.

Seriously? What are these?

, you are sadly mistaken.

pretty ignorant

you manipulate the Word of God

yet your claiming to be a christian

Right... And I'M the one attacking you. After all, YOU came into OUR forum, onto MY thread and insulted everything I believe in. Obviously it is my fault

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.

I believe our little GypsyR0ad here is proof of what happens when you don't beat your child.

Back when I was growing up, everyone got beaten. You showed up at school with a black eye and people just wanted to know what you did to make your father that angry. I remember one boy trying to ask the teacher if he could stand in class because his father had whipped him so badly it hurt to sit down, the teacher told him to sit and that he deserved whatever pain was caused.

Then again when I went to school, we said the Lords Prayer and pledged allegiance to the flag every morning. We said "sir" or "ma'am" to any adult that we didn't know, the neighbors were Mr. Smith and Mrs. Jones, and your parents closest friends were referred to as Uncle Bob (if they so desired, otherwise it was Mr. or Mrs.). I was even beaten by the neighbors for doing bad things, ran away from them and by the time I got home my parents had already received the phone call and were ready to finish the whupping.

The funny thing is, is that I probably had a happier childhood than the brats I see today. They're always so miserable, everything "sucks", they troll Christian boards, or hang out at malls. They damage property because they're bored. It's a sad state of affairs for children these days.

[GOD=life]

Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.

YOu can quote the Bible all you wish to...

I guess that as a non-Christian, you don't understand the significance of the Bible to Christians... that's ignorance on your part, friend.

Almost every single Word from God written in the Bible can be manipulated to suit almost any view and seem Godly...

Only when they're "interpreted". That's why we don't interpret but take it literally. Then it becomes clear, simple and logical.

God = Love anything else, is not God.

That's not what the Bible says, friend.

The "god" you follow is loosely based on Christianity. You will still go to Hell

[gypsyr0ad]

Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.

Originally Posted by gypsyr0ad
I just know I Love the Lord and hate the devil and am far from perfect and will never be able to walk in Jesus's shoes as lots here think they are doing.
Jesus saves and loves all.
I have told you time and time again that this is false. If Jesus loved all, we wouldn't have disease or death. It's obvious when God hates people, because he curses them.

----------------

Your wrong my friend, Jesus has zero control over disease or death, Adam and Eve made that choice for us.

Can you please stop flaming me with ignorance, I do not call you names.
Thanks

[loveforchrist]

Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.

YOu can quote the Bible all you wish to, when you manipulate the Word of God to suit your desires as most "christians" do, you will be judged by it by God its not my place to do so.

Almost every single Word from God written in the Bible can be manipulated to suit almost any view and seem Godly, when in fact if you have not been brainwashed into believing it by being drilled it over and over and it becomes the normal, you can see the difference.

How am I manipulating the word of God? God is pretty clear on his intentions here. The only way I would be manipulating the word of God is if I used a different translation. However, you will notice that I only quote the King James version. See my avatar? That is the only thing I will read.

I made that ignorant pun about "suffer the little children, come unto me" as an attempt to show what I meant.

What am I even supposed to say here?

When I tread the Bible,

Why would you TREAD on the bible?

I take it as truth, however I do not use the Word of God to justify my personal opinions,

Well, I guess it's easier for me because God agrees with me.

which is why I am not quoting the Bible,

You are not quoting the Bible because you can't read.

I could do so, to counter every single word that is written here, the Bible is a huge book

No, you could not do so, because the Bible is on my side. If you did, YOU would be manipulating the word of GOD

My main objective is this

God = Love anything else, is not God.

Have you even read my other posts? Oh wait, you can't read. I forgot.

God shows how he deals with the devil through stories of his wrath, he did not do that so that people can have the ok to do it as well, he did it as a warning to those who fail to accept him and continue to sin.

Exactly. This means you should probably stop sinning and worshipping the devil.

WE are to feed and love our enemies,

WHAT?? This is the exact OPPOSITE of what the Bible says.

and failure to do so is as if you are doing that to God himself, I do not see that here, yet your claiming to be a christian and above others.

I am a Christian. To call me anything else is to insult the most important thing in my life.

and since you already know, I love to debate.

You also love gay sex and Satan. Why are you telling me this?

Please do not take any offense to my posts,

Too late

it is only my opinion and its hard for me to say in words exactly how I feel.

Obviously

I just know I Love the Lord and hate the devil and am far from perfect and will never be able to walk in Jesus's shoes as lots here think they are doing.
Jesus saves and loves all.

I have told you time and time again that this is false. If Jesus loved all, we wouldn't have disease or death. It's obvious when God hates people, because he curses them.

I am so done with you. You still fail to read anything I am actually saying. You asked for Bible quotes and then criticized me for quoting the bible. Go away.