[Beyondthesmegma]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

Hahaha your not disproving DNA with that statement, in fact, your actually helping me by saying DNA is real...Thank you!

DNA has been proven. Cranky Old Man, are you also going to say that atoms and molecules don't exist too, just because you can't see them with your eyes? Is that how far your ignorance has taken you? Ignoring basic scientific facts, I see. Let me guess. I bet your going to say that germs don't exist, just because they can't be seen with the naked eye. Well guess what, let's assume by YOUR logic that anything that cannot be seen by the naked eye doesn't exist. So would it be true that God does not exist, just because he cannot be seen. You are a world class hypocrite. In fact, there is a thread on this forum about "gay germs".

I HAVE assumed direct control.

[Percival B. Perkins]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

Precisely. Also, you claim to follow the Bible to the letter. Yet just now you interpreted something which wasn't clearly said in the Bible. Lot may have been a just man, but that still does not mean impregnating your own daughter is right. Not unless it says so in the Bible, which it doesn't. We have a lot of characters who were just yet they did not impregnate their daughters, are we because of this to assume that impregnating your daughter is not right? No, because it does not say so in the Bible. But because it says Levicitus 18:6 "‘No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual relations. I am the LORD." it is not right. Also if there was no opinion on the matter, then we would need to follow this:
Romans 13:1
Romans 13:2
"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves."

And in this case it would still be wrong.
Do not make assumptions, follow the Bible and what it says, instead. Only because you wish it said something you'd like does not mean it does.

The United States liberal agenda has turned many astray here, Read that passage again:

Romans 13:1-2 1Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

The United States is in a state of political flux for power, Rebellion as we know it come a long way from the ways of our confederate forefathers. Rebellion and resistance is not fought on battlefields anymore. It's fought in courts, in schools, and in politkill rally. This affects Real Christian Values in the home and loins of upstanding Christian Fundamentalist Men.

Accept the Lord in your home and know his power true. You will know it when you see the gleem in your 13 year old daughters eye as she breastfeeds your newborn son.

Now, about this DNA malarchy. The Lord is your Shepard, a good shepard tends to his flock. Haven't you ever been fooled by a magician?

Acts 13 : 6 And when they had gone through the isle unto Paphos, they found a certain sorcerer, a false prophet, a Jew, whose name was Bar-jesus

Don't let some money-grubbing trickster with a fake abomination pull the wool over your eyes. The sheep was of the same mother, they fooled the lab results with mirrors and different stages of sheep fetus. The DNA theory is unproven.

[Mundwode]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

I'm sorry, I'm not sure where you're going with this.

[Samuel Coleridge]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

Levicitus 18:6 "‘No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual relations. I am the LORD." it is not right. Also if there was no opinion on the matter, then we would need to follow this

Yes, this makes sense as to why not. I looked and looked as to why your own daughter wouldn't be specifically mentioned, but I guess this is it.

I suppose all the rules must have taken place because of the places they were broken in the Bible?

6None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the LORD.
Lot's daughters.

8The nakedness of thy father's wife shalt thou not uncover: it is thy father's nakedness.
Reuben did this to his father's wife. Gen. 35:22

15Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy daughter in law: she is thy son's wife; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.
Judah did this. 1 Chronicles 2; Genesis 38.

18Neither shalt thou take a wife to her sister, to vex her, to uncover her nakedness, beside the other in her life time.
Both Jacob/Israel and Esau did this.

[Mundwode]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

Precisely. Also, you claim to follow the Bible to the letter. Yet just now you interpreted something which wasn't clearly said in the Bible. Lot may have been a just man, but that still does not mean impregnating your own daughter is right. Not unless it says so in the Bible, which it doesn't. We have a lot of characters who were just yet they did not impregnate their daughters, are we because of this to assume that impregnating your daughter is not right? No, because it does not say so in the Bible. But because it says Levicitus 18:6 "‘No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual relations. I am the LORD." it is not right. Also if there was no opinion on the matter, then we would need to follow this:
Romans 13:1
Romans 13:2
"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves."

And in this case it would still be wrong.
Do not make assumptions, follow the Bible and what it says, instead. Only because you wish it said something you'd like does not mean it does.

[Samuel Coleridge]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

I had come here to tell you how wrong you were, but for the life of me, I cannot find where it says you cannot uncover your own daughters nakedness.

Leviticus 18
4Ye shall do my judgments, and keep mine ordinances, to walk therein: I am the LORD your God.
5Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments: which if a man do, he shall live in them: I am the LORD.
6None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the LORD.
7The nakedness of thy father, or the nakedness of thy mother, shalt thou not uncover: she is thy mother; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.
8The nakedness of thy father's wife shalt thou not uncover: it is thy father's nakedness.
9The nakedness of thy sister, the daughter of thy father, or daughter of thy mother, whether she be born at home, or born abroad, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover.
10The nakedness of thy son's daughter, or of thy daughter's daughter, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover: for theirs is thine own nakedness.
11The nakedness of thy father's wife's daughter, begotten of thy father, she is thy sister, thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.
12Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy father's sister: she is thy father's near kinswoman.
13Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy mother's sister: for she is thy mother's near kinswoman.
14Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy father's brother, thou shalt not approach to his wife: she is thine aunt.
15Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy daughter in law: she is thy son's wife; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.
16Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy brother's wife: it is thy brother's nakedness.
17Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of a woman and her daughter, neither shalt thou take her son's daughter, or her daughter's daughter, to uncover her nakedness; for they are her near kinswomen: it is wickedness.
18Neither shalt thou take a wife to her sister, to vex her, to uncover her nakedness, beside the other in her life time.


Surely, there is something against it.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

I have serious problems with the title of this thread. Perhaps sometimes a man can impregnate his own daughters and there's no wrong-doing involved, but to simply sum the whole situation up as "NOT rape!" obscures the very real suffering of the many fathers who find themselves forced to impregnate their own daughters. I think we should all take a moment to stop and pray for all the poor, innocent fathers who find themselves the drunken victims of a vicious daughter-rape.

[Pure_Angel]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

You already gave the scripture where it says that raping your daughter is wrong. Also, do not interpret the Bible to your liking. Just because Lot impregnated his daughters does not mean it is correct. That is only something you assume. Unless you can provide us with the scripture that says it is good or allowed to rape your daughter(s), then you are wrong. If we could all assume as much as you do then everyone would interpret the Bible and its messages differently.

It's wrong to RAPE your daughters, but it's GOOD to impregnate them! And since Lot was the only man who was saved from Sodom and Gomorrah, he must have been a righteous man, alas what he did was right!

[TheMessenger]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

"In Genesis 19:32-36 we can read that Lot impregnated both his virgin daughters. The Bible raises no objections against this. Both had male children who were identified as progenitors of the Moab and Ammon people."
^-- So Moab and Ammon were therefor both inbred and most probably retarded. Sorry to crush your dreams.
P.S Have you ever impregnated your daughter(s)?

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

You already gave the scripture where it says that raping your daughter is wrong. Also, do not interpret the Bible to your liking. Just because Lot impregnated his daughters does not mean it is correct. That is only something you assume. Unless you can provide us with the scripture that says it is good or allowed to rape your daughter(s), then you are wrong. If we could all assume as much as you do then everyone would interpret the Bible and its messages differently.

In 2nd Peter, scripture tells us that Lot was just.

2 Peter 2:7 (King James Version)

7And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:

Are you saying that you are right and the Bible is wrong?

[Mundwode]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

You already gave the scripture where it says that raping your daughter is wrong. Also, do not interpret the Bible to your liking. Just because Lot impregnated his daughters does not mean it is correct. That is only something you assume. Unless you can provide us with the scripture that says it is good or allowed to rape your daughter(s), then you are wrong. If we could all assume as much as you do then everyone would interpret the Bible and its messages differently.

[Titus Templeton]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

Just a sidenote: Don't tell your wife about what happend or better send her away. My wife goes on vacation 2 times a year which gives me the opportunity to follow in Lots footsteps. I have 2 daughters.

[Booger]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

How can you prove something does not exist!? Please prove to me the Easter Bunny does not exist.

Hahaha your not disproving DNA with that statement, in fact, your actually helping me by saying DNA is real...Thank you!

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

How else would they clone a sheep? Oh lemme guess...Satan! Haha I feel sorry for you, I really do!

All sheep look the same. So when someone claims a sheep to be a clone, he is just lying. Probably to steal your tax money for "research". Research with sheep, yeah right.

And what proof do you have that DNA is a myth?

How can you prove something does not exist!? Please prove to me the Easter Bunny does not exist.

[Two-Dollar Bill]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

Ohh I see now. All that inbreeding in your family really did a toll on you and your family, sorry to hear.

How else would they clone a sheep? Oh lemme guess...Satan! Haha I feel sorry for you, I really do!

And what proof do you have that DNA is a myth? Because it's not in the bible? Holy shit, cars aren't in the bible so they must be a myth too? How can you expect for anyone to take you seriously...

Such language. Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?