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    • Sep 2012
    • 57

    #571
    Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

    Originally posted by Rev. M. Rodimer View Post
    pretending
    "believing"

    There, I fixed it for you.

    Please prove it.
    You really don't want to ask that question, considering you blindly believe a set of books that state morals which are generally unaccepted by the majority of the population and also that has little to no certain history.

    Upon what evidence do you believe that what you believe is true?
    YOU prove YOUR beliefs before you start criticizing others, hypocrite.
    For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous.--Lev.21:18

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    • Didymus Much
      Unsaved trash, Arrogant Atheist Dick
      • Jun 2010
      • 14076

      #572
      Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

      Originally posted by counter345 View Post
      ...YOU prove YOUR beliefs before you start criticizing others, hypocrite.
      be·lief   [bih-leef] Show IPA
      noun
      1. something believed; an opinion or conviction: a belief that the earth is flat.
      2. confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof: a statement unworthy of belief.
      3. confidence; faith; trust: a child's belief in his parents.
      4. a religious tenet or tenets; religious creed or faith: the Christian belief.

      http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/belief
      I bolded the pertinent bit for you, twit. He asked you for your evidence, not your proof. If either of you had proof, you would have knowledge, not beliefs.

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      • Didymus Much
        Unsaved trash, Arrogant Atheist Dick
        • Jun 2010
        • 14076

        #573
        Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

        Originally posted by counter345 View Post
        ...you blindly believe a set of books that state morals which are generally unaccepted by the majority of the population...
        Appeal to majority, also known as argumentum ad populum, is a logical fallacy. You lose.

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        • Rev. M. Rodimer
          Honorary True Christian™
          Forum Member
          • May 2008
          • 13996

          #574
          Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

          Originally posted by countertoPotato View Post
          You really don't want to ask that question, considering you blindly believe a set of books that state morals which are generally unaccepted by the majority of the population and also that has little to no certain history.
          Yes, I do. 78% of Americans identify as Christian, and about 2.3 billion people worldwide. When Islam is added in, the majority of the world's population does, in fact, consider the Old Testament to be authoritative.

          Your ignorance of such basic facts is astounding. Does your Google not work?

          Now, back to the subject: Prove that God does not exist.
          Bible boring? Nonsense!
          Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
          You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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          • Pastor Isaac Peters
            Senior Pastor
            Ex-liberal; converted to True Christianity™
            Always Biblically correct
            True Christian™
            • Sep 2006
            • 10639

            #575
            Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

            Originally posted by Redeemed Papist View Post
            You're so clever. I really am crying at the gulf between how smart you are and how smart you think you are.
            Brother, I think we've seen an extreme version of the Dunning-Kruger effect in action.
            This church is dedicated to preaching True Christianity™ and the King James Bible exactly as they are, with no alterations to make them more politically correct for modern liberals. If you think that we've misquoted or twisted Scripture or quoted any verse out of context, please explain in detail how we've done so. Otherwise, if what you read on this site offends you, then you're offended by Almighty God and His Word, not by us.

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            • MitzaLizalor
              Completely CRAZY for the Lord
              True Christian™
              • Sep 2010
              • 14151

              #576
              Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

              Originally posted by counter345 View Post
              And I'm sitting here guffawking how you think Down's Syndrome is a choice!
              I can see where you're going wrong. You seem to think that, since there is no God, nothing that happens can be the result of His curses.

              That is not what God says. He explains what happens when people choose to disregard His Just Law and what He will do to their children and to their grandchildren and in many cases to generations who will be born long after the godless fool who made the choice has died and passed from living memory.
              For example, what is the maiden name of your great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandmother?
              Now just imagine that her first child was born as the result of a union not recognised by God. It doesn't matter whether she, or her partner, or the society they lived in recognised the ceremony (if there was one). Jumping over a broomstick is pagan. God is clear that all pagans should be killed. Their children should all be killed. God does not recognise jumping over broomsticks as marriage because God does not recognise paganism as a valid belief system.
              Perhaps she wriggled through a hole in the ancient standing stone (a common ceremony in some places)?
              Standing stones are witchcraft. Everyone who gets "married" by wriggling through stones has chosen to reject God. Any resulting children are thereby subject to the consequences of that choice.
              Did your great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandmother worship idols (all catholics worship idols which means that no Romish "marriage" can ever be considered as valid by God and all papist babies are illegitimate)? So do you know if she was a catholic? Or a savage cannibal for that matter - not a few Europeans zipped over to Africa and produced babies with Hamites; after 10 generations it would be impossible to tell by mere visual inspection and yet the curse of Ham would remain current, current because of a choice
              Here is what The Bible teaches us about the sorts of lifestyle choices leading to curses such as the multitude of "psychoses" or "syndromes" and "disorders" described in atheistic medical literature.


              DEUTERONOMY 23
              2 - 3 A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD. An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the LORD for ever:
              6 Thou shalt not seek their peace nor their prosperity all thy days for ever.
              KJV . . . LOOK UP . . CONTEXT



              EXODUS 20 & 34, NUMBERS 14
              EXODUS 20:3 - 5 [God speaking to Moses] Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

              34:5 - 8 And the LORD descended in the cloud, and stood with him there, and proclaimed the name of the LORD. And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth, Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation. And Moses made haste, and bowed his head toward the earth, and worshipped.

              NUMBERS 14:17 - 18 [Moses speaking to God] And now, I beseech thee, let the power of my Lord be great, according as thou hast spoken, saying, The LORD is longsuffering, and of great mercy, forgiving iniquity and transgression, and by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation.
              KJV . . . LOOK UP Exodus 20 . Exodus 34 . Numbers . . . . CONTEXT Exodus 20 . Exodus 34 . Numbers



              GENESIS 9
              20 - 22 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard: And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent. And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
              24 - 25a And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him. And he said, Cursed be Canaan;
              KJV . . . LOOK UP . . CONTEXT



              God does not avoid this subject and because He loves us He makes sure we know the truth of the matter, so that we do not fall into error. There is plenty of Scripture. When faced with ignorance I will post it. I make no apology for doing so. We have not just made this up because we think it sounds "cool" and in fact it doesn't sound cool at all, it is The Truth explained for us by God so that we will understand the grave outcome associated with rejecting His Perfect Love and thereby blasting future generations in all the ways we see around us. God continues:


              PROVERBS 1 & 3
              1:29 - 31 For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD: They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof. Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.
              3:31 - 33 Envy thou not the oppressor, and choose none of his ways. For the froward is abomination to the LORD: but his secret is with the righteous. The curse of the LORD is in the house of the wicked: but he blesseth the habitation of the just.
              KJV . . . LOOK UP Proverbs 1 . Proverbs 3 . . . . CONTEXT


              DEUTERONOMY 30
              15
              See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;
              16 In that I command thee this day to love the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the LORD thy God shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it.
              17 But if thine heart turn away, so that thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away, and worship other gods, and serve them;
              18 I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall surely perish, and that ye shall not prolong your days upon the land, whither thou passest over Jordan to go to possess it.
              19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
              KJV . . . LOOK UP . . CONTEXT


              JOSHUA 24
              14
              [Joshua speaking] Now therefore fear the LORD, and serve him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye the LORD.
              15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.
              KJV . . . LOOK UP . . CONTEXT


              There is plenty more. Notice in particular that to reject God is to hate knowledge (Proverbs 1).







              But God offers us a way out. Belief in His promise and acceptance of the Blood Of Jesus as powerful and Mighty To Save opens the door to Salvation.


              ISAIAH 7
              14
              Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
              15 Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good.
              KJV . . . LOOK UP . . CONTEXT


              PSALM 25
              12
              What man is he that feareth the LORD? him shall he teach in the way that he shall choose.
              18 Look upon mine affliction and my pain; and forgive all my sins.
              20 O keep my soul, and deliver me: let me not be ashamed; for I put my trust in thee.
              KJV . . . LOOK UP . . CONTEXT



              When we accept Christ, acknowledge the efficacy of His blood and appreciate the magnitude of the change it brought about when it dripped and then gushed out of Jesus making contact with the ground for the first (and last) time in history we are healed. The Bible tells us so. HERE.









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              • Pastor Ezekiel
                Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                 
                • Sep 2006
                • 78552

                #577
                Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

                What could be worse than a retard cheerleader? Who wants to see that? Not Jesus!

                Who Will Jesus Damn?

                Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                • lochnersm
                  Unsaved trash
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 6

                  #578
                  Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

                  Perhaps the best example of repeating something over and over again, and simple minded people believing it, is this farce called god. You can't see, hear, or touch him, but when you're dead and all your nerve endings are decomposing, then you will be with him. It's people like you that I have to constantly remind myself that human beings are nothing more than stupid animals.

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                  • Mary Etheldreda
                    Gushing for Jesus
                     
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 23765

                    #579
                    Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

                    Originally posted by lochnersm View Post
                    human beings are nothing more than stupid animals.
                    President Ronald Reagan's single handed termination of the Evil Empire that was the USSR

                    vs.

                    Fido fetching


                    Son, I'm not persuaded.
                    Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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                    • Zechariah Smyth
                      Walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
                      True Christian™
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 15251

                      #580
                      Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

                      Originally posted by lochnersm View Post
                      Perhaps the best example of repeating something over and over again, and simple minded people believing it, is this farce called god. You can't see, hear, or touch him, but when you're dead and all your nerve endings are decomposing, then you will be with him. It's people like you that I have to constantly remind myself that human beings are nothing more than stupid animals.
                      It is precisely this kind of mindset that encourages your garden variety Jesus-haters to become furries, and later to actually "hook up" with animals.



                      (Exodus 22:19) "Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death."

                      Yours in Christ,

                      Z. Smyth
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                      • Pastor Isaac Peters
                        Senior Pastor
                        Ex-liberal; converted to True Christianity™
                        Always Biblically correct
                        True Christian™
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 10639

                        #581
                        Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

                        Originally posted by lochnersm View Post
                        You can't see, hear, or touch him, but when you're dead and all your nerve endings are decomposing, then you will be with him.
                        Carbon monoxide is totally undetectable by human senses, but you ignore its existence at your peril. Similarly, you may not be able to see, hear, or touch God, but you ignore His existence at your eternal peril.
                        This church is dedicated to preaching True Christianity™ and the King James Bible exactly as they are, with no alterations to make them more politically correct for modern liberals. If you think that we've misquoted or twisted Scripture or quoted any verse out of context, please explain in detail how we've done so. Otherwise, if what you read on this site offends you, then you're offended by Almighty God and His Word, not by us.

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                        • GayAssDemon
                          Unsaved Trash, degenerate godmocker
                          Under Investigation
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 5

                          #582
                          Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

                          Brother you're so right! I'm going to start forcing my autistic child to start reading the bible right when she gets home! Why haven't I accepted this before? I don't know! But your comment sure enlightened my thoughts on how I should raise my autistic child! No more Lord of the Rings or scifi bull crap for my child!

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                          • Zechariah Smyth
                            Walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
                            True Christian™
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 15251

                            #583
                            Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

                            Originally posted by GayAssBaptist View Post
                            Brother you're so right! I'm going to start forcing my autistic child to start reading the bible right when she gets home! Why haven't I accepted this before? I don't know! But your comment sure enlightened my thoughts on how I should raise my autistic child! No more Lord of the Rings or scifi bull crap for my child!
                            Friend, you seem upset that God has saddled you with a retard child. Have you tried praying to Jesus to see if He will cure him?

                            YiC,

                            Zech
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                            • Billy Bob Jenkins
                              Family Man of the Year 2010-2013
                              About as Straight and Manly as you can get
                              Hates anal sex. And trees.
                              True Christian™
                              • May 2010
                              • 8337

                              #584
                              Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

                              Originally posted by Zechariah Smyth View Post
                              Friend, you seem upset that God has saddled you with a retard child. Have you tried praying to Jesus to see if He will cure him?

                              YiC,

                              Zech
                              Amen. That would be the loving thing to do. Why let the child lead a life of retardation, only to have it burn in Hell for all eternity, when you could just ask and receive? Why would a grown man want to be seen walking around with a braying, honking mongoloid when he could have a normal son?
                              The Only Real Climate Change Will be Hell!

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                              • Rev. M. Rodimer
                                Honorary True Christian™
                                Forum Member
                                • May 2008
                                • 13996

                                #585
                                Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

                                Originally posted by GayAssBaptist View Post
                                Brother you're so right! I'm going to start forcing my autistic child to start reading the bible right when she gets home! Why haven't I accepted this before? I don't know! But your comment sure enlightened my thoughts on how I should raise my autistic child! No more Lord of the Rings or scifi bull crap for my child!
                                Are we expected to believe, Gay Ass, that you have a Gay Ass child?

                                Have you even entered college yet, or do you just spend your time sitting on your Gay Ass playing video games and clopping?
                                Bible boring? Nonsense!
                                Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
                                You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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