[Des]

Re: How Should I Prepare to Sacrifice My Child?

1 Kings 13:1-2

And, behold, there came a man of God out of Judah by the word of the Lord unto Bethel: and Jeroboam stood by the altar to burn incense.


And he cried against the altar in the word of the Lord, and said, O altar, altar, thus saith the Lord; Behold, a child shall be born unto the house of David, Josiah by name; and upon thee shall he offer the priests of the high places that burn incense upon thee, and men's bones shall be burnt upon thee.

2 Kings 23:20-25

And *he slew all the priests of the high places that were there upon the altars, and burned men's bones upon them, and returned to Jerusalem.

And the king commanded all the people, saying, Keep the passover unto the Lord your God, as it is written in the book of this covenant.


Surely there was not holden such a passover from the days of the judges that judged Israel, nor in all the days of the kings of Israel, nor of the kings of Judah;


But in the eighteenth year of king Josiah, wherein this passover was holden to the Lord in Jerusalem.


Moreover the workers with familiar spirits, and the wizards, and the images, and the idols, and all the abominations that were spied in the land of Judah and in Jerusalem, did Josiah put away, that he might perform the words of the law which were written in the book that Hilkiah the priest found in the house of the Lord.


And like unto him was there no king before him, that turned to the Lord with all his heart, and with all his soul, and with all his might, according to all the law of Moses; neither after him arose there any like him.

*Josiah

Now what was this idiot saying about no human sacrifice again?

[James Hutchins]

Re: How Should I Prepare to Sacrifice My Child?

it's because baptists are closeted Catholics, any protestant will seem like a JW to you because protestants aren't "progressive"

Sorry friend, I do not follow you. How has that got anything to do with the fact you lied earlier? Wandering off topic like a hooker with ther popes red shoes does not cut it.
I think you've 'gone all straw man' and the barn is on fire.

[demosfen]

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you are not very familiar with baptists then, they progressed over the last 150 years from a protestant denomination to the point of being barely distinguishable from Catholicism. That's quite progressive in anyone's book

[Didymus Much]

Re: How Should I Prepare to Sacrifice My Child?

it's because baptists are closeted Catholics, any protestant will seem like a JW to you because protestants aren't "progressive"

Of the thousands of adjectives I've used to describe the people here, "progressive" is quite absent, let me assure you.

[demosfen]

Re: How Should I Prepare to Sacrifice My Child?

it's because baptists are closeted Catholics, any protestant will seem like a JW to you because protestants aren't "progressive"

[Jim Farmer]

Re: How Should I Prepare to Sacrifice My Child?

I think our friend is having difficulty understanding anything he wasn't taught at JW school.

[James Hutchins]

Re: How Should I Prepare to Sacrifice My Child?

nobody in the Bible ever sacrificed a child to God. God even has a provision for the firstborn of men to be redeemed with animal sacrifice. If you are worried about God demanding the life of your child you need to pay a little more attention to the word, it's purely a reading comprehension issue

The child Samuel was sacrificed to God too, but it didn't prevent him from living on to be an old man. Why do you think is that? There is a difference between how (unclean) animals, and humans are sacrificed to God. The former are killed, the latter are redeemed

Num 18:15 every one opening a womb of all flesh which they offer to Jehovah, among man and among animal, shall be yours. Only, you shall certainly redeem the first-born of man, and you shall redeem the firstling of the unclean beasts.
Num 18:16 And their redeemed ones, from a month old, you shall redeem with your valuation of silver, five shekels, by the shekel of the sanctuary; it is twenty gerahs.

Well friend, I am just a simple county gentleman, but aren't you contradicting yourself.
Now, you first claim nobody did. I gave you scrtipture, clear as day, showing you one example (of many, I assure you) Then you agree yet still you carry on like a stuck pig. Friend, what is you problem? Is it demons in your rectum?
God gives all a final destiantion. The Chosen(c) ones, True Christians(tm) will go to Heaven. The unwanteds and bad, soul-less creatures, to Hell.

[demosfen]

Re: How Should I Prepare to Sacrifice My Child?

wine and grains are not sacrificed in the same manner as animals either, by the way. You never see any wine killed on the altar of God in the Bible

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: How Should I Prepare to Sacrifice My Child?

The child Samuel was sacrificed to God too, but it didn't prevent him from living on to be an old man. Why do you think is that?

Probably because nobody set fire to him.

There is a difference between how (unclean) animals, and humans are sacrificed to God. The former are killed, the latter are redeemed

You’re mad. Beset by demons of delusion.

1. Unclean animals were never accepted as sacrifices: see how far you get at some Jewish temple offering a pig.

2 Of course animals and humans are different: we are like gods and have command over animals

3. John:3:16

4. Your verses relate to the time after Numbers was written.

5. To redeem does not mean “to dedicate to the temple”, it means “pay a fee to the temple upon”

Are you misleading people for fun?

[demosfen]

Re: How Should I Prepare to Sacrifice My Child?

The child Samuel was sacrificed to God too, but it didn't prevent him from living on to be an old man. Why do you think is that? There is a difference between how (unclean) animals, and humans are sacrificed to God. The former are killed, the latter are redeemed

Num 18:15 every one opening a womb of all flesh which they offer to Jehovah, among man and among animal, shall be yours. Only, you shall certainly redeem the first-born of man, and you shall redeem the firstling of the unclean beasts.
Num 18:16 And their redeemed ones, from a month old, you shall redeem with your valuation of silver, five shekels, by the shekel of the sanctuary; it is twenty gerahs.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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A simplistic, fluffy-bunny Christian approach, totally lacking in all common sense.

Are you suggesting that Jephthah, who, in return for victory, expected to come home and see a duck or a sheep come wandering out and that he would have then taken it to a temple for bestiality?

J'g:11:31e I will offer it up for a burnt offering. It seems strange to me that Jephthah should set fire to his daughter before giving her to the temple...

The trouble with you is that you have no idea what loyalty our God inspires in the believer. You seem to be living in a little world of your own invention and your "god" is remarkably like you.

Go away: we should not be associating with disgusting people like you. You are bringing down the tone of Landover.

[demosfen]

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brother, re-read what you are quoting please, it clearly says "bewail my virginity". She was sacrificed to God the same way as the child Samuel was, serving at the temple till the end of her life. Where does it say that she was killed on the altar?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: How Should I Prepare to Sacrifice My Child?

nobody in the Bible ever sacrificed a child to God. ... it's purely a reading comprehension issue

J'g:11:31: Then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the LORD's, and I will offer it up for a burnt offering.J'g:11:34: And Jephthah came to Mizpeh unto his house, and, behold, his daughter came out to meet him with timbrels and with dances: and she was his only child; beside her he had neither son nor daughter.
J'g:11:35: And it came to pass, when he saw her, that he rent his clothes, and said, Alas, my daughter! thou hast brought me very low, and thou art one of them that trouble me: for I have opened my mouth unto the LORD, and I cannot go back.
J'g:11:36: And she said unto him, My father, if thou hast opened thy mouth unto the LORD, do to me according to that which hath proceeded out of thy mouth; forasmuch as the LORD hath taken vengeance for thee of thine enemies, even of the children of Ammon.
J'g:11:37: And she said unto her father, Let this thing be done for me: let me alone two months, that I may go up and down upon the mountains, and bewail my virginity, I and my fellows.
J'g:11:38: And he said, Go. And he sent her away for two months: and she went with her companions, and bewailed her virginity upon the mountains.
J'g:11:39: And it came to pass at the end of two months, that she returned unto her father, who did with her according to his vow which he had vowed: and she knew no man. And it was a custom in Israel,
J'g:11:40: That the daughters of Israel went yearly to lament the daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite four days in a year.

The comprehension issue is that you can't read.

[James Hutchins]

Re: How Should I Prepare to Sacrifice My Child?

if I can't even figure out whether 1 Samuel 15 has anything to do with child sacrifice, how in the world are I going to understand the weightier matters of the law?
Please put some effort into my Bible study Educate me for I am clueless.

I suggest reading it a few more times. If you have scripture that contradicts the KJV, please, by all means, present it.
Law friend, means nothing. God's Holy Word, does.

Just beacause God hates you, does not mean you have to make us see your misery. He gave us closets for a reason. Please return to yours.

[demosfen]

Re: How Should I Prepare to Sacrifice My Child?

if I can't even figure out whether 1 Samuel 15 has anything to do with child sacrifice, how in the world are I going to understand the weightier matters of the law?
Please put some effort into my Bible study Educate me for I am clueless.