Repeal first then...

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

As a medical professional, I have always been a less-is-more kind of a guy; less healthcare = more tax cuts. So it is a bittersweet moment for me to see Trumpcare v2 crash and burn in the Senate. Yes I liked that there would be less healthcare and yes I liked the tax cuts. But something about it always felt wrong.

Now it is off the table, we can have a serious look at doing healthcare right in America. Donald Trump as usual is leading the way - let's just repeal Obamacare. Don't think about what comes next.

This is failsafe plan. One I believe championed by our Brexiter friends across the pond. We'll give ourselves a 2 year deadline to come up with a new plan (that'll be 9 years total if we include the 7 years already devoted to repeal and replace).

If no plan is agreed, then we default to no healthcare for all: either you throw us off a cliff or we'll throw ourselves of a cliff. Your choice.

This is the exact same strategy the Conservative Party is using to negotiate Brexit and look how well that is working it.

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

Re: Repeal first then...

Hold the horses on that plan! Apparently the new direction will be to keep Obamacare but let it die. This is the refreshing government that we were promised. We let healthcare die then we let you die without healthcare. You see, government is the problem here.

I'm a big fan of the plan not plan, obviously.

What's the point of having laws and policies if you can't ignore them and do what you want. So the Republicans can't agree on a plan... well who cares about the Republicans, we'll do what the Republicans want. No need to listen to those annoying Republicans. It's the Democrats fault. Wall! Wall! Wall!

That whole Congress/Senate/3 equal whatevers is just a bunch of whatever anyway. They cream off the sweet tax breaks from the job creators. I mean, any idiot can get elected; it takes breeding and inherited wealth to be a job creator. Old World monarchies were right in a lot of ways.

Healthcare is boring anyway, time to move onto tax cuts. Or maybe nuking North Korea. Or maybe France again! Lovely place, the best steak seriously.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Repeal first then...

That whole Congress/Senate/3 equal whatevers is just a bunch of whatever anyway. They cream off the sweet tax breaks from the job creators. I mean, any idiot can get elected; it takes breeding and inherited wealth to be a job creator. Old World monarchies were right in a lot of ways.

Well, like Ivanka Trump, I try to stay out of politics. However, when you're right, you're right, and it's hard to ignore when you're right. Right? The whole 3 Ring Circus that Obama left us is meaningless and we ought to trust those who are good at salesmanship with creating and selling new ideas.

No one can doubt President Trump is a champion at salesmanship! Why, he's sold his brand - his very image and everything a person believes it to mean - to a nation! It doesn't matter that he was never actually in charge of the television reality show that catapulted his brand name to the top of the charts, it matters that he knew how to sell, and profit from, the idea.

This idea of letting healthcare crumble so millions of Americans suffer just to win a dare may sound like holding the American people hostage, but that's only to the liberal snowflakes who'd like to run the country. The joke's on them! Until they become an household name, no one cares what they think!

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

Re: Repeal first then...

This idea of letting healthcare crumble so millions of Americans suffer just to win a dare may sound like holding the American people hostage, but that's only to the liberal snowflakes who'd like to run the country. The joke's on them! Until they become an household name, no one cares what they think!

We have a phrase in the medical world (mainly CEOs of hospitals): don't buy until they're bleeding on the streets. This is particularly apt in this case. Trump just needs to let everyone see their fellow American citizens in the gutter thrashing around in their own blood to understand the wisdom in bumping them off healthcare. Lemons to lemonade, people! Donate that blood and get a free biscuit.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: Repeal first then...

It seems that now the Truth is coming out. After 7 years of passing resolutions to repeal the hated ObamaCare knowing full well that Obama would veto it, the weasels in congress are now backing away knowing that Trump will sign it. What we have here is a bunch of RINO's, and more swamp draining is called for.

In one way Trump is right - let it fail on its own and let the Democrats take the blame, it was theirs to begin with. One would have to ask where are the Democrats - sitting on the sidelines doing nothing but talking about their favorite subject - Russia (they always did like the communists). While Nancy Pelosi has a hard time saying anything coherent these days and Chuck Schumer continues to be a babbling idiot, we can just sit this one out and watch them squirm in the midterm elections. It's time to take more seats from the Democrats and get rid of some RINO's.

Oh wait, the RINO's are going to try again next week.

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: Repeal first then...

Repeal and the let socialism rest a while. That's what would make sense.

Another brilliant idea has been released by Republicans. We need not fear our President or his family or members of his administration will get into any difficulties over this "Russian thing." Our President will pardon himself and everyone else. That's what I call leadership:


Trump asked his advisers about his power to pardon himself in connection to Mueller's Russia investigation

By Washington Post on Jul 20, 2017 at 9:48 p.m.



U.S. President Donald Trump attends a "Made in America" event on pharmaceutical glass manufacturing at the Roosevelt Room of the White House in Washington, U.S., July 20, 2017. REUTERS/Carlos Barria

Some of President Donald Trump's lawyers are exploring ways to limit or undercut Special Counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation, building a case against what they allege are his conflicts of interest and discussing the president's authority to grant pardons, according to people familiar with the effort.

Trump has asked his advisers about his power to pardon aides, family members and even himself in connection with the probe, according to one of those people. A second person said Trump's lawyers have been discussing the president's pardoning powers among themselves.
Trump's legal team declined to comment on the issue. But one adviser said the president has simply expressed a curiosity

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Repeal first then...

I just can't understand why people get so worked up about "health" care. A doctor says to take some medicine and so people do. Any improvement reinforces their (misguided) faith in the doctor.

Christians, obviously, can heal anyone of anything. The afflicted soul needs to have sufficient faith as Jesus made abundantly plain on very many occasions so that we would understand His statement about "health" care:

MARK 16 . KJV . look up
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.

Now anyone could make up some such claim but here in the historical record we see that not only did Jesus explain this to us, not only did Jesus promise this, but the word was confirmed with actual healing. Of course the person being healed needs to have sufficient faith but if a stronger faith, in doctors, lurks then clearly the diseased soul cannot recover.

If they have so much faith in doctors, all of whose patients die, surely it would make sense to transfer that faith to Jesus (leaving no residuum for the doctors) and live forever?

But we're not talking sense here, are we.