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Re: Why do LIEbrals hate George W Bush?
Amen, brother OYN. That is exactly where the nickel comes from for those nickel-metal hydride batteries that are used in the Toyota Prius. That is supposedly the "Green" car that all those Hellywood starlets and Liebrals are starting to drive to show their allegiance to mother earth.
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Re: Why do LIEbrals hate George W Bush?
Well said, Brother!Originally posted by Brother Temperance View PostDirty stinky oil? Harsh, harsh words. So what exactly is powering that computer you use to spew your liberal atheist (if you believe in a "god" you made up yourself, that makes you an atheist in my book) hatespeech over the internet tubes?
And not just what's powering it, but what powered its construction -- can you run a "clean room" off solar panels? Maybe one clean room off a full office building's rooftop -- and what it's MADE of -- plastics, paint.
By the way, take a look at what it takes to make one of those fancy NiCad batteries. You know, the ones in your laptop computer, and the ones that your snazzy solar system will be storing power in (unless you plan to sit in the dark all night!)
Here's the nickel tailings and dead zone surrounding the world's foremost nickel smelting plant, in Sudbury, Ontario:

Note the complete lack of life between the foreground and the very distant smokestack of the plant. Now, imagine how much energy is required to smelt the nickel.
Batteries, solar panels, etc. don't just magically appear. They're all derived from energy supplied by oil.Last edited by OnYourKnees; 03-30-2007, 05:25 PM.
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Dirty stinky oil? Harsh, harsh words. So what exactly is powering that computer you use to spew your liberal atheist (if you believe in a "god" you made up yourself, that makes you an atheist in my book) hatespeech over the internet tubes? And consider that statement you just made. Do you really think renewable energy would be cheaper to run? You admit yourself that the energy business is concerned only with profits, so why would they carry on using oil if renewable's cheaper? No friend, the truth is that renewable energy is prohibitively expensive. That's why the only people seriously promoting it are vicious Marxist dogs who want the world to switch over to "environmentally friendly" energy because they know it's so expensive it'll cause an economic crisis and the collapse of capitalism. Would you really want to live in a Communist country, Rachael? Would you really? If not, better think twice before buying those Satano-secular-solar panels for your roof!Originally posted by Rachael Van Helsing View PostThey would rather ruin the planet and drill out every drop of dirty stinky oil than consider an environmentally friendly solution which would save the environment and people's pockets (cheaper to run).
Too right, Brother. Why, the liberals will probably try and hand the security of our ports over to the Arabiacs next.Originally posted by WilliamJenningsBryan View PostWhat it comes down to is that the Liebrals have effectively enabled the transfer of huge portions of our wealth to the Middle East and enabled these towel heads the access to weapons to attack us. They would still be herding camels and goats in the desert if it weren't for all that oil money. The Liebral Demoncrats are the ones truly responsible for the war in Iraq.
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All those illegal narcotics and the dillusions of having AIDS has divorced them from reality.
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I'm so tired of Liebral whining. When it does come time for them to adopt renewal energy, they seem to want to put a stop to it when it is in their back yard. Ted Kennedy is doing just that:
It is just part of their conspiracy to grab power and impoverish all Godly Americans. First dumb down all the schools so no one knows anything, then perpetuate junk science hoaxes like Al Gore's Global Warming, then insist that we all stop using energy. They have kept us from drilling new off shore oil wells and exploring in Alaska. They have effectively stopped any construction of clean nuclear power plants for almost a generation. Even the homers in France get close to 80% of their power from nuclear plants.
What it comes down to is that the Liebrals have effectively enabled the transfer of huge portions of our wealth to the Middle East and enabled these towel heads the access to weapons to attack us. They would still be herding camels and goats in the desert if it weren't for all that oil money. The Liebral Demoncrats are the ones truly responsible for the war in Iraq.
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Typical LIEbral response!Originally posted by Rachael Van Helsing View PostYou know, it would be a lot easier to work on fuel alternatives. Do you know a hydrocar has been developed? But will they release it? Nooooooo....because that would upset the precious oil giants. Will they consider a more environmentally friendly solution? Nooooooo....because they don't want to upset the precious oil giants and lose out on precious cash. What do they care about ruining the planet? They figure by the time it's a problem it will be someone else's problem, not theirs.
They would rather ruin the planet and drill out every drop of dirty stinky oil than consider an environmentally friendly solution which would save the environment and people's pockets (cheaper to run).
Why do liberals hate Dumbya?
Because he is the embodiment of what is ruining the planet!
Do you know how hydrogen is isolated?
Most of it comes from natural gas (you know, one of those fossil fuels about to run out). That's the easiest, cheapest way to get it. The other source is water, split by electricity. Electricity generated from fossil fuels.
Meanwhile, liquid hydrogen has about 1/4 the energy that gasoline has per gallon. That means you need four times as much to do the same amount of work.
At present, it requires more energy to isolate and transport hydrogen than the hydrogen itself contains. In other words, it uses more energy to get a gallon of liquid hydrogen isolated and to the filling station than you will get from that gallon of hydrogen. A net energy loss.
At best, hydrogen can serve as a means to transform sunlight energy (only available during the day . . .) into something which can be stored and burned. However, energy will be lost in the process. We can't just shut off the gas/oil economy and turn on the hydrogen economy with no changes; major changes in development patterns and lifestyles will be required.
Meanwhile, it would require 20 barrels of oil per vehicle to build at least two hundred million new hydrogen-powered autos and trucks (just for the US). That's 4,000,000,000 barrels of oil. Or 16,000,000,000 barrels of liquid hydrogen.
As noted, Godly GW Bush is well aware that the oil and natural gas will run out. However, it will take 20-30 years to re-engineer the nation to operate on alternatives, and to downsize (!) the economy without sending the nation into a complete economic and social collapse.
Don't believe me, look it up for yourself . . . Even WickedPedophilia has all manner of info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_economy , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hype_about_Hydrogen
Hydrogen's clean and renewable, yes. However, it's not a plug-n-play switch; it's a major transition. The technology isn't ready, and it will require tremendous investments of energy to switch over to hydrogen.
Godly GW Bush is making sure that Godly Americans have that energy available!
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I don't know, could it be because that's exactly what he is?Originally posted by OnYourKnees View PostI just don't get it. LIEbrals call Godly GW Bush a short-sighted, money-grubbing anti-environmentalist war-monger.
Not all liberals are atheists, I'd call myself liberal and I'm not an atheist. It's less to do with the fact that he's a god-botherer, and more to do with the fact that he's a predjudiced, greedy, blithering idiot.I mean, yes, they're atheists, and he's a Man of God, but why are they so fired-up about hating him?
You know, it would be a lot easier to work on fuel alternatives. Do you know a hydrocar has been developed? But will they release it? Nooooooo....because that would upset the precious oil giants. Will they consider a more environmentally friendly solution? Nooooooo....because they don't want to upset the precious oil giants and lose out on precious cash. What do they care about ruining the planet? They figure by the time it's a problem it will be someone else's problem, not theirs.First of all, he picked a Vice President who knows all sorts of things. Why, back in 1999, Cheney insisted that the world was about to hit Peak Oil Production (the point after which more than half of the world's oil reserves are used up, and it becomes steadily more expensive and energy-consumptive to extract) and that by 2010, with 2% annual growth in demand and a 3% decline in production annually, we'd be coming up short 50 billion barrels of oil per year worldwide! That's two and a half years from now, folks.
*Shortened quote /PD*
Thank Jesus for GW Bush!
They would rather ruin the planet and drill out every drop of dirty stinky oil than consider an environmentally friendly solution which would save the environment and people's pockets (cheaper to run).
Why do liberals hate Dumbya?
Because he is the embodiment of what is ruining the planet!
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Why do LIEbrals hate George W Bush?
I just don't get it. LIEbrals call Godly GW Bush a short-sighted, money-grubbing anti-environmentalist war-monger.
I mean, yes, they're atheists, and he's a Man of God, but why are they so fired-up about hating him?
First of all, he picked a Vice President who knows all sorts of things. Why, back in 1999, Cheney insisted that the world was about to hit Peak Oil Production (the point after which more than half of the world's oil reserves are used up, and it becomes steadily more expensive and energy-consumptive to extract) and that by 2010, with 2% annual growth in demand and a 3% decline in production annually, we'd be coming up short 50 billion barrels of oil per year worldwide! That's two and a half years from now, folks.
What does that mean to us? Why, the collapse of the American (and world) economy! Not only do we use oil to drive . . . the energy from oil builds cars (roughly 20 barrels of oil to build ONE new snazzy Toyota Prius, but quite a bit less for a Fit or similar small car; in fact, a Hummer requires less energy per mile driven over its 300,000-mile life span vs. Prius 100,000-mile life!), heats homes, etc. It requires enough oil to build a car to build a mere 9 computers (microchip production is energy-intensive). Also, plastics and pesticides alike -- the mainstays of American agriculture -- are made from oil. No oil, no food. No way to move the food to the people, either.
Bush and Cheney know that our electricity comes from natural gas, coal, or nuclear power plants; natural gas is expected to run out on a similar timetable, and the extraction of coal and uranium both require massive amounts of -- yup -- oil-based energy (mining equipment).
Our long-viewed President realized that it requires massive amounts of -- yes indeedy -- OIL-based energy to construct solar panels, wind turbines, and any other "alternative" energy sources! The volume of new-source energy required to maintain the Godly American Economy in its current form is estimated to require tremendous OIL energy inputs to construct, and 20-30 years to retrofit into our nation. Even so, one analyst suggested we would need to cover 95% of the NATION'S LAND MASS with solar panels to equal the current energy utilization. Change is coming, and GW knows it. Do the LIEbrals? They run out and buy an overpriced hybrid car so they can pat themselves on the back. See above on those . . .
Some analysts are predicting price spikes beginning as soon as anywhere from 2008-2010. Those price spikes -- driven initially by international hoarding of oil supplies, later by its actual scarcity -- will mean $10/gallon gasoline . . . until the government begins retaining all, or nearly all, for the military, the industrial sector, maintaining the electrical grid, etc. Next comes collapse of the housing market, and introduction of a Depression far beyond what we saw in 1929. What will the LIEbrals do then? Will they still be worrying about a bunch of Godless heathens in Iraq when they're killing each other over the last can of beans?
HOW plans Godly GW Bush to save us from this tragedy?
Invade Iraq. If he can secure the Iraq oil fields for American use, then the American people will have the chance to transition to those renewable/alternative energy sources, rather than seeing the rapid collapse of their entire nation.
What else is GW Bush doing to ensure our nation's future?
Why, he's working closely with the primary researchers in renewable energy and conservation!
British Petroleum and Shell are the two largest manufacturers of solar panels . . . oil companies in general are leaders in alternative energy R&D! Yet LIEbrals condemn them left and right.
Conservation, wha? Yes indeedy, Chevron asks, http://www.willyoujoinus.com/ ?
He's working to develop more clean-coal electric plants! Why? Well remember, that cleaner-burning natural gas is going to run out almost as soon as the oil. Coal's sure not a long-term solution, but it's one more step that will help slow the decline in energy resources.
Yes, the world will run out of oil. But Godly GW Bush will be remembered as the visionary he is, securing American oil in the Middle East and helping to ease us into the new, post-oil economy!
Thank Jesus for GW Bush!
Last edited by OnYourKnees; 03-30-2007, 03:12 AM.
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