100% Pro-Life

[Father Thomas Martin]

Let me tell you I am 100% Pro-Life.

That means I am opposed to:
Abortion
Assisted suicide
Euthanaisa
Embryonic stem-cell research.

I am sure you are opposed to that as well...However, I am also opposed to:
Capital punishment (The death penalty)
The Iraqi war's continuation.

I am not claiming to be more or less pro-life than you...I am just letting you know that I'm 100% pro-life, like you (are you?)

[Brother Temperance]

Re: 100% Pro-Life

Let me tell you I am 100% Pro-Life.

That means I am opposed to:
Abortion
Assisted suicide
Euthanaisa
Embryonic stem-cell research.

I am sure you are opposed to that as well...However, I am also opposed to:
Capital punishment (The death penalty)
The Iraqi war's continuation.

I am not claiming to be more or less pro-life than you...I am just letting you know that I'm 100% pro-life, like you (are you?)

No. We are 100% pro-God. That means that if God wants someone destroyed, we want them destroyed too. How do you reconcile your opposition to capital punishment with the fact that God commands it in scripture?
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Does God want sodomites executed or doesn't He?

[Talitha]

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Does God want sodomites executed or doesn't He?

Heh. You don't expect someone from the Catlicker Cult to agree with that one do you?
There'd be no-one left to Mary Worship!

[Father Thomas Martin]

Re: 100% Pro-Life

No. We are 100% pro-God. That means that if God wants someone destroyed, we want them destroyed too. How do you reconcile your opposition to capital punishment with the fact that God commands it in scripture?
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Does God want sodomites executed or doesn't He?

Now I will tell you about Jesus and the woman sentenced to death via adultery (John 8:1-11) The Pharisees wanted her killed, but what does Jesus say?

“Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.”

They all walked away, because they had all sinned at least once in their lives. Jesus asked the woman, Has anyone condemned you? and she said: No, and He says:

“Neither do I condemn you; go, and from now on sin no more.”

God does not want sinners to die, but to change their ways and live...

[Sista Lateefah]

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Now I will tell you about Jesus and the woman sentenced to death via adultery (John 8:1-11) The Pharisees wanted her killed, but what does Jesus say?

“Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.”

They all walked away, because they had all sinned at least once in their lives.

That was befo'e His (temporary) death on the cross. Also, them was all dirty joos that He had been talkin' to. True Christians™ is washeded in the Blood o' the Lamb and is without sin, so we is entitled to throw the first stone. Praise!

Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. - 1 John 3:6-9

[Father Thomas Martin]

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Let's face it, ALL PEOPLE SIN.

"For we all have sinned and thus fall short of God's glory..."


I'd think you'd recognize this verse...You quote it all the time in your pamphlet.

And enough with your anti-Semitic talk...Jesus said:

"I am the good shepherd. I lay down my life for my sheep. No one takes my life from me. I lay it down willingly. I have the power to lay it down, and the power to take it back up again."

[Sista Lateefah]

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Let's face it, ALL PEOPLE SIN.

"For we all have sinned and thus fall short of God's glory..."


I'd think you'd recognize this verse...You quote it all the time in your pamphlet.

Actually, I does not recognize that sin version of the Lord's Word. I reads the KJV1611 and nothin' else, thank you. But as to the verse you is referrin' to:

For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; - Romans 3:23

That just go to show that everybody need Jesus so they can become True Christians™.

And enough with your anti-Semitic talk...Jesus said:

"I am the good shepherd. I lay down my life for my sheep. No one takes my life from me. I lay it down willingly. I have the power to lay it down, and the power to take it back up again."

Where do this verse say you can't tell the Truth about joos? Here be a verse that tell you all about how connivin' they is:

For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews: Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men - 1 Thessalonians 2:14-15

[Brother Temperance]

Re: 100% Pro-Life

Let's face it, ALL PEOPLE SIN.

"For we all have sinned and thus fall short of God's glory..."


I'd think you'd recognize this verse...You quote it all the time in your pamphlet.

All people HAVE SINNED, correct. But how do you turn that into the present tense? Only by twisting the scripture and denying the power of Jesus.

[Father Thomas Martin]

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All people HAVE SINNED, correct. But how do you turn that into the present tense? Only by twisting the scripture and denying the power of Jesus.

So you say God brainwashes us to do his word. So you say, once you turn your life to him, he snaps his fingers and says, "That's it, you are incapable of sin!"

But what would happen to your dignity? Your status as his son, rather than his slave? Your RIGHT to be REWARDED?

[Rachael Van Helsing]

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Let me tell you I am 100% Pro-Life.

That means I am opposed to:
Abortion
Assisted suicide
Euthanaisa
Embryonic stem-cell research.

I am 100% pro choice. You are a man, and you are daring to tell women what they can and cannot do to their own body? Are you telling me that if your wife or daughter were raped you would force them to keep that baby? That if your wife or daughter would most likely die if they attempted to bring that baby to term, you would want them to keep it??

As to stem cell research, someone who claims to be pro-life should support it. Stem cell research has the potential to save many lives, to assist curing cancer, and you are so pro-life that you oppose it?

As to euthanasia, you would rather let someone who is already definitely going to die suffer in unspeakable agony rather than letting them go in peace?? Rather than sparing them weeks or months of unspeakable pain??? I almost hope that at the end of your life you experience such pain, so then we could see just how much you want to live like that, except that I wouldn't wish such pain on a person.

Sorry, but I find your attitudes here rather awful.

[Father Thomas Martin]

Re: 100% Pro-Life

I am 100% pro choice. You are a man, and you are daring to tell women what they can and cannot do to their own body? Are you telling me that if your wife or daughter were raped you would force them to keep that baby? That if your wife or daughter would most likely die if they attempted to bring that baby to term, you would want them to keep it??

For rape and incest, there's always ADOPTION.
As for the life in danger, to suggest a baby should be killed to save the life of a grown woman is deplorable.

As to stem cell research, someone who claims to be pro-life should support it. Stem cell research has the potential to save many lives, to assist curing cancer, and you are so pro-life that you oppose it?

I am not opposed to all stem-cell research (I think adult stem cells, can, and have, saved many lives). I am only opposed to embryonic stem-cell research (why kill several pre-born embryos to save one life?)

As to euthanasia, you would rather let someone who is already definitely going to die suffer in unspeakable agony rather than letting them go in peace?? Rather than sparing them weeks or months of unspeakable pain??? I almost hope that at the end of your life you experience such pain, so then we could see just how much you want to live like that, except that I wouldn't wish such pain on a person.

Sorry, but I find your attitudes here rather awful.

Everything is a plan from the Lord. Jesus did not come to take away suffering, but to sanctify it. God doesn't give us crosses too heavy to carry. He makes each one for us, that we may go through it and it may help us grow.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

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For rape and incest, there's always ADOPTION.

Have you ever been raped? It is the most horrible experience one can go through. And after going through a horrifying ordeal, to force the victim to carry the resulting parasite??

As for the life in danger, to suggest a baby should be killed to save the life of a grown woman is deplorable.

What you just said is deplorable. You would sacrifice a life, an actual life, in favor of something which is not yet a life. It is a bunch of cells. It is the potential to become a person, and you would KILL an ACTUAL PERSON for THAT???

I am not opposed to all stem-cell research (I think adult stem cells, can, and have, saved many lives). I am only opposed to embryonic stem-cell research (why kill several pre-born embryos to save one life?)

If those women were having abortions or miscarriages anyway, you would rather those foetuses become medical waste rather than use them to help save lives??

Everything is a plan from the Lord. Jesus did not come to take away suffering, but to sanctify it. God doesn't give us crosses too heavy to carry. He makes each one for us, that we may go through it and it may help us grow.

Sorry, I don't believe in your god (as should be evident by my signature). I do believe that reading your post has added some unneeded disgust to my day.
There's a whole lot more I'd like to say too, except I won't stoop to that level, so I won't.

[Father Thomas Martin]

Re: 100% Pro-Life

Have you ever been raped? It is the most horrible experience one can go through. And after going through a horrifying ordeal, to force the victim to carry the resulting parasite??

Calling ANY human being, no matter how small, a parasite, is pure evil! (Maybe you do need an exorcism)

What you just said is deplorable. You would sacrifice a life, an actual life, in favor of something which is not yet a life. It is a bunch of cells. It is the potential to become a person, and you would KILL an ACTUAL PERSON for THAT???

Hello...Life begins at conception...If it didn't, why do babies move a lot in the mother's womb?

If those women were having abortions or miscarriages anyway, you would rather those foetuses become medical waste rather than use them to help save lives??

I would not have either. They deserve a proper burial.

Sorry, I don't believe in your god (as should be evident by my signature). I do believe that reading your post has added some unneeded disgust to my day.

Hopefully, you'll get sick of the disgust, and turn to the Lord!

There's a whole lot more I'd like to say too, except I won't stoop to that level, so I won't.

Any guesses what that means?

[Rachael Van Helsing]

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Calling ANY human being, no matter how small, a parasite, is pure evil!

It is not yet a human being. It is the potential of a person, not yet a person. Have you ever heard of maternal mirror syndrome? That is when a foetus makes a mother sick or die. Such cases call for termination. In such cases the foetus displays purely parasitic behavior. Technically, what is a parasite? An organism that is dependant on another organism to survive. Before a baby is born can it survive outside the mother's womb? Nope, therefore, parasite, no matter how much you dislike the word.

BTW, you still haven't answered what I said about the ordeal of rape.

(Maybe you do need an exorcism)

ROFL!!!!
Oh, boy, Houston, we got a live one here! LOL!!!!

Hello...Life begins at conception...If it didn't, why do babies move a lot in the mother's womb?

It is not yet a person. It does not yet breathe, think, act. It is a potential person. Not yet a person.

I would not have either. They deserve a proper burial.

So you'd rather they rot in the dirt than help save lives?

Hopefully, you'll get sick of the disgust, and turn to the Lord!

Sorry, but I'm perfectly happy where I am. What's more, your religion would not exist were it not for paganism. I think even these landoverians would agree with me about the relation of catholicism to paganism.

Any guesses what that means?

It means that your attitude on these things disgusts me, to say the least.

[Father Thomas Martin]

Re: 100% Pro-Life

It is not yet a human being. It is the potential of a person, not yet a person. Have you ever heard of maternal mirror syndrome? That is when a foetus makes a mother sick or die. Such cases call for termination. In such cases the foetus displays purely parasitic behavior. Technically, what is a parasite? An organism that is dependant on another organism to survive. Before a baby is born can it survive outside the mother's womb? Nope, therefore, parasite, no matter how much you dislike the word.

Surgery to save the mother's life may be permissible-But ONLY if the purpose is to save her life, NOT to kill the baby within.

BTW, you still haven't answered what I said about the ordeal of rape.

I will address that now. Yes, rape is an ordeal. So is the death of your baby. Which one is a bigger one, may I ask?

ROFL!!!!
Oh, boy, Houston, we got a live one here! LOL!!!!

THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU! THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU! (Finally, I agree with my separated brethren on this board)

It is not yet a person. It does not yet breathe, think, act. It is a potential person. Not yet a person.

1. A baby can breathe inside the mother's womb (through the umbilical cord, same way it gets its food)
2. Newborn babies can't think either. Are they not persons either?
3. Excuse me? Kicking and moving are acting (Unless you mean thoughtful acts-another thing newborn babies can't do. You wouldn't burn a newborn baby to death, would you?)

So you'd rather they rot in the dirt than help save lives?

1. If they are already dead, they should be buried. If the embryos are still alive, KEEP THEM ALIVE!
2. Embryonic stem-cell research has not saved one life so far (And don't bore me with your potential medical breakthrough blah blah blah blah nonsense)

Sorry, but I'm perfectly happy where I am. What's more, your religion would not exist were it not for paganism. I think even these landoverians would agree with me about the relation of catholicism to paganism.

1. The "landoverians" are Christians too...
2. The One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church is THE ORIGINAL CHRISTIAN CHURCH! No trace of paganism in us!

It means that your attitude on these things disgusts me, to say the least.

And your current stance disgusts me as well. But I am praying for you, that you may see the error of your ways, pray for forgiveness, and thus end up in heaven.