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  • Pastor Ezekiel
    Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
     
    • Sep 2006
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    GOP Candidates Condemn Radical Queer Agenda

    Praise Jesus the GOP is consistant with God's desires on the homer question! And that boy Alan Keynes sure knows how to put a sodomite in it's place!!

    Second-tier GOP candidates vow to combat homosexual activism

    Republican presidential candidates were asked on Monday night what they would do as president to combat the homosexual agenda. The responses ranged from defending marriage and family, to countering the influence of that agenda's adherents in America's schools.

    Three-time Republican presidential candidate Alan Keyes is taking aim at fellow GOP candidates who are reluctant to support a federal marriage amendment. During last night's Values Voters Presidential Debate in Fort Lauderdale, Ambassador Keyes at times sounded like a fiery gospel preacher. When asked what he would do to counter the homosexual agenda if president, Keyes voiced support for a constitutional amendment banning same-sex "marriage," and said he would defend the "natural family."

    "We have to restore the understanding of what marriage is," he said. "I heard tonight a shocking statement that somehow the state can withdraw its respect for and support for the natural family as ordained by God.

    "I'd like to remind you that the family preceded the government," Keyes emphasized. "Before we had a government, we had a God-ordained family that supported and represented the natural rights of our humanity." The government is obliged to respect those natural rights, he stated, not destroy them.

    Congressman Tom Tancredo (R-Colorado) argued that the homosexual agenda manifests itself in the curriculum found in public schools across the country. And that, he said, is why he believes providing families with school choice options is a powerful weapon to fight homosexual activism.

    "There is a very strong movement to influence the curriculum in the schools to obtain some sort of moral neutrality on all issues, including homosexuality," he offered. "How can you stop that? I'll tell you how -- I believe completely in the idea of school choice; I actually introduced a voucher system when I was in Colorado in 1992."

    Candidate and Chicago businessman John Cox said if Washington politicians stood up for school choice and home schooling, parents would not have to worry about their children being exposed to homosexual propaganda.
    Who Will Jesus Damn?

    Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

    Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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  • Pastor Isaac Peters
    Senior Pastor
    Ex-liberal; converted to True Christianity™
    Always Biblically correct
    True Christian™
    • Sep 2006
    • 10639

    #2
    Re: GOP Candidates Condemn Radical Queer Agenda

    "I'd like to remind you that the family preceded the government," Keyes emphasized. "Before we had a government, we had a God-ordained family that supported and represented the natural rights of our humanity." The government is obliged to respect those natural rights, he stated, not destroy them.
    For a death-cookie-eater, that Alan Keyes is remarkably astute. Why can't more people realize the basic fact that since the family preceded the government, the family is reliant on the government's protection?
    This church is dedicated to preaching True Christianity™ and the King James Bible exactly as they are, with no alterations to make them more politically correct for modern liberals. If you think that we've misquoted or twisted Scripture or quoted any verse out of context, please explain in detail how we've done so. Otherwise, if what you read on this site offends you, then you're offended by Almighty God and His Word, not by us.

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    • raylu
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      • Sep 2007
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      Re: GOP Candidates Condemn Radical Queer Agenda

      If the family was established before government, wouldn't that make it more essential and less likely to fail?

      Besides, what does chronological order of establishment have to do with reliance? The wheel was invented before the Chinese Communist Revolution; does that mean wheels are dependent on commies?

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      • Pastor Al E Pistle
        Christ's Cōnsiliārius
         
        • Sep 2006
        • 9323

        #4
        Re: GOP Candidates Condemn Radical Queer Agenda

        Originally posted by raylu View Post
        If the family was established before government, wouldn't that make it more essential and less likely to fail?

        Besides, what does chronological order of establishment have to do with reliance? The wheel was invented before the Chinese Communist Revolution; does that mean wheels are dependent on commies?
        Well no, but THANK GOD you are finally starting to think the way JESUS wants you to!
        Emeritus Professor of the Christ Jesus Chair of Theology at Landover Baptist University.
        "God loves you. Let us arrange for you to meet Him".
        Break their teeth, O God, in their mouth.--Psalms 58:6


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        • raylu
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          • Sep 2007
          • 40

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          Re: GOP Candidates Condemn Radical Queer Agenda

          I have always thought this way. The reference to wheels and commies was merely an example - I figured that was obvious, so I didn't explicitly say so.

          Jesus gave humans free will. He doesn't want you to think any way, though, according to you, you are required to think a certain way to avoid hell.

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          • Pastor Billy-Reuben
            Senior Pastor
            VP of Evangelical Outreach
            On FIRE for Jesus
            True Christian™
            • Sep 2006
            • 5812

            #6
            Re: GOP Candidates Condemn Radical Queer Agenda

            Originally posted by raylu View Post
            Jesus gave humans free will, [but] He doesn't want you to think anyway,
            Amen! We aren't supposed to lean to our own understanding. We are supposed to Trust the Lord with all our heart.

            Originally posted by raylu View Post
            though, according to you, you are required to think a certain way to avoid hell.
            You mean, according to God. Pastor Al didn't write the Bible -- God did. According to God, we are required to think and believe a certain way to avoid Hell.

            The Bible tells us precisely what to think and believe:
            Matthew 5:17 - Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
            Don't think that the Old Testament law has been destroyed.

            Matthew 10:34 - Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
            Don't think that Jesus has come to bring peace.

            John 3:12 - If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
            The Bible is as trustworthy on spiritual matters as it is on scientific matters.

            John 3:36 - He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
            Believe the Bible, or else!

            Friend, you must put away your philosophers and your vain babblings and your critical reasoning skills. Read and believe all of your Bible. You'll be better for it in this world and the next.

            Pastor Billy-Reuben
            Upon request I will cite scripture for all these facts in God's Holy Word.

            ✝ This is a Christian community and we worship GOD of the Holy bible, the only Living GOD. We worship Jesus Christ, Son of GOD and Savior. Anything else is absurd. ✝
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            • raylu
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              • Sep 2007
              • 40

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              Re: GOP Candidates Condemn Radical Queer Agenda

              The last two are, indeed, valid examples of what you interpret Jesus wants you to think.

              However,
              Believe the Bible, or else!
              the "or else" makes my point exactly. Jesus doesn't want you to think any specific way. You believe that, if you believe, you will be saved and, if not, the "or else" is invoked and you go to hell.

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              • Pastor Billy-Reuben
                Senior Pastor
                VP of Evangelical Outreach
                On FIRE for Jesus
                True Christian™
                • Sep 2006
                • 5812

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                Re: GOP Candidates Condemn Radical Queer Agenda

                You certainly have some strange beliefs. Are you a Catholic or a Mormon?

                Originally posted by raylu View Post
                The last two are, indeed, valid examples of what you interpret Jesus wants you to think.
                Friend, I don't "interpret" the Bible at all. I read it, and then I just believe it -- no "interpretation" required.

                Originally posted by raylu View Post
                However, the "or else" makes my point exactly. Jesus doesn't want you to think any specific way. You believe that, if you believe, you will be saved and, if not, the "or else" is invoked and you go to hell.
                We have free will. Jesus doesn't force us to believe a certain way, but do you believe that Jesus doesn't want us to believe and become saved? Do you think He doesn't give a hoot one way or the other?

                I don't believe that, because the Bible tells me that Jesus does want us to believe and think a certain way:
                2 Peter 3:9 - The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

                Pastor Billy-Reuben
                Upon request I will cite scripture for all these facts in God's Holy Word.

                ✝ This is a Christian community and we worship GOD of the Holy bible, the only Living GOD. We worship Jesus Christ, Son of GOD and Savior. Anything else is absurd. ✝
                Trump / Arpaio 2016 -- The Government We Deserve
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                • raylu
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                  • Sep 2007
                  • 40

                  #9
                  Re: GOP Candidates Condemn Radical Queer Agenda

                  Originally posted by Pastor Billy-Reuben View Post
                  Friend, I don't "interpret" the Bible at all. I read it, and then I just believe it -- no "interpretation" required.
                  This is going in the same direction as this topic (starting at post 6).

                  We have free will. Jesus doesn't force us to believe a certain way, but do you believe that Jesus doesn't want us to believe and become saved? Do you think He doesn't give a hoot one way or the other?
                  He does want you to be saved, but this is not the same as wanting you to believe. In order to believe meaningfully, you must question your beliefs - a true believe has done so and still believes.

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                  • Pastor Billy-Reuben
                    Senior Pastor
                    VP of Evangelical Outreach
                    On FIRE for Jesus
                    True Christian™
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 5812

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                    Re: GOP Candidates Condemn Radical Queer Agenda

                    Originally posted by raylu View Post
                    He does want you to be saved, but this is not the same as wanting you to believe.


                    Belief is required for salvation. You can't be saved if you don't believe. It makes no sense to say that Jesus want us to be saved but He doesn't care whether we believe.

                    Pastor Billy-Reuben
                    Upon request I will cite scripture for all these facts in God's Holy Word.

                    ✝ This is a Christian community and we worship GOD of the Holy bible, the only Living GOD. We worship Jesus Christ, Son of GOD and Savior. Anything else is absurd. ✝
                    Trump / Arpaio 2016 -- The Government We Deserve
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                    • Sister Noddy
                      True Christian™
                      True Christian™
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 1843

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                      Re: GOP Candidates Condemn Radical Queer Agenda

                      Originally posted by raylu View Post

                      ... In order to believe meaningfully, you must question your beliefs - a true believer has done so and still believes ...
                      Who said anything about it being okay to question GOD?

                      Listen to me, GOD doesn't care about your personal beliefs unless you have chosen Him unwaveringly and praise Him and believe His Holy Word (the KJV1611 Bible) without question, because even to question His truth for a moment leaves you wide open to all manner of evil and deception and unclean things ...

                      2nd Corinthians 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
                      Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
                      Either you are on the winning team with Jesus or you're not, period.

                      1st Peter 1:5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
                      Better get yourself straightened out on this in a hurry, heathen
                      1st Timothy 2: 9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
                      1st Timothy 2: 10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works ...


                      1 Timothy 5: 16 If any man or woman that believeth have widows, let them relieve them, and let not the church be charged; that it may relieve them that are widows indeed ...

                      Proverbs 31: 26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness ...
                      Proverbs 31: 27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness ...

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                      • raylu
                        Unsaved Mongoloid Trash
                        Forum Member
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 40

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                        Re: GOP Candidates Condemn Radical Queer Agenda

                        Originally posted by Pastor Billy-Reuben View Post
                        Belief is required for salvation. You can't be saved if you don't believe. It makes no sense to say that Jesus want us to be saved but He doesn't care whether we believe.
                        You are correct in that believing is required for salvation, but salvation is not required for believing. Thus, the two are not the same thing.

                        Jesus wants you to be saved, but simply believing is not enough.

                        Originally posted by Sister Noddy View Post
                        Who said anything about it being okay to question GOD?
                        How did you manage to equate "question your beliefs" to "question God?" Only after believing in God does one adhere to his teachings, at which point one does not question him.

                        Either you are on the winning team with Jesus or you're not, period.
                        Not quite. Jesus defines his team to be winning; circular logic.

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                        • Pastor Ezekiel
                          Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                           
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 78555

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                          Re: GOP Candidates Condemn Radical Queer Agenda

                          Originally posted by raylu View Post
                          You are correct in that believing is required for salvation, but salvation is not required for believing. Thus, the two are not the same thing.
                          And exactly who are you to be telling one of our most beloved True Christian™ pastors whether he is correct or not? What are you, about 15 years old? And an admitted mongoloid? I'll bet you've never even read the Holy Bible cover to cover, have you fool?

                          We do not suffer fools gladly here, and we do not take kindly to zit-faced retardeds being disrespectful and lecturing our pastors on God's Holy Word. When you can offer quotes from the scriptures to back up your claims, someone might take you seriously. Maybe.
                          Who Will Jesus Damn?

                          Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                          Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                          Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                          • Pastor Billy-Reuben
                            Senior Pastor
                            VP of Evangelical Outreach
                            On FIRE for Jesus
                            True Christian™
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 5812

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                            Re: GOP Candidates Condemn Radical Queer Agenda

                            Originally posted by raylu View Post
                            Originally posted by me
                            Belief is required for salvation. You can't be saved if you don't believe. It makes no sense to say that Jesus want us to be saved but He doesn't care whether we believe.
                            You are correct in that believing is required for salvation, but salvation is not required for believing. Thus, the two are not the same thing.

                            Jesus wants you to be saved, but simply believing is not enough.
                            Well thank you for letting me know I am correct. I'm glad we finally have a bona fide expert here.

                            Do you not understand simple English? I know belief is not sufficient for salvation, and I would never have made such a claim.

                            You said that Jesus wants us to be saved, but He doesn't care if we believe.

                            If, as you admit, that belief is required for salvation, then how can we be saved if we don't believe? If belief is required (which it is), then how can Jesus want us to be saved without also wanting us to believe?

                            I'm thinking you need a little less refer, and a little more Bible study.

                            Pastor Billy-Reuben
                            Upon request I will cite scripture for all these facts in God's Holy Word.

                            ✝ This is a Christian community and we worship GOD of the Holy bible, the only Living GOD. We worship Jesus Christ, Son of GOD and Savior. Anything else is absurd. ✝
                            Trump / Arpaio 2016 -- The Government We Deserve
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                            • raylu
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                              • Sep 2007
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                              Originally posted by Pastor Billy-Reuben View Post
                              If belief is required (which it is), then how can Jesus want us to be saved without also wanting us to believe?
                              "I want to make money, but I don't want to work for it."

                              More to the point, Jesus wants you, ultimately, to be saved. Although believing is a requirement, he doesn't simply want you to believe. Again, only belief after questioning of your beliefs is meaningful.

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