[TheHomosexualAgenda]

Re: Why is killing a dog such a big deal?

So you aren't completely ignorant. Just mostly.



Matthew is quoting Jesus' words.



As long as we eat them, it's okay.

Acts 10:10-15 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,
And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

And again, I'm not a vegan. I eat meat same as everyone here. I'm arguing that this particular man is sick in the head. He was torturing his dog, with no intention of eating it. Had this been your dog, you might feel differently about the argument.

As far as Matthew quoting Jesus' words... there's no real evidence to support this. In fact, there's hardly any evidence whatsoever to support Jesus' existence except for the Bible. Only 3 historical documents of the time period reference the name (a strange occurrence for such an influential leader of the time), one of which was proven to be falsified by the Roman Catholic church, and the others reference Christ, which is actually a title that means, "The Anointed One." Aside from the Bible, very few people of the time speak of him.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Why is killing a dog such a big deal?

Well, the second quote is from Proverbs (part of the Old Testament), and thereby was around before Jesus was even alive.

So you aren't completely ignorant. Just mostly.

The first quote on the other hand is from the New Testament but the author as you so clearly stated is Matthew and not Jesus, so again this isn't the argument of Jesus. Furthermore, that quote is implying not to give your riches to animals which seems to be implying that humans have a place above animals.

Matthew is quoting Jesus' words.

This however doesn't give human beings the right to senselessly slaughter animals.

As long as we eat them, it's okay.

Acts 10:10-15 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,
And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Why is killing a dog such a big deal?

this isn't the argument of Jesus

Wrong: 2nd Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"

And God and Jesus are one as everyone knows.

[TheHomosexualAgenda]

Re: Why is killing a dog such a big deal?

Jesus didn't care much for dogs. Why can't you be more like Jesus?

Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Proverbs 26:11 As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.

Well, the second quote is from Proverbs (part of the Old Testament), and thereby was around before Jesus was even alive. The first quote on the other hand is from the New Testament but the author as you so clearly stated is Matthew and not Jesus, so again this isn't the argument of Jesus. Furthermore, that quote is implying not to give your riches to animals which seems to be implying that humans have a place above animals. This however doesn't give human beings the right to senselessly slaughter animals, and as I already stated this is the first sign in a serial killer and can easily be a gateway drug leading people down the path of a serial killer. If anyone is arguing the holy path, I believe it's me. I'm attempting to save lives.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Why is killing a dog such a big deal?

The problem here enlies not that the animal was his property, but that animal was a living creature.

Jesus didn't care much for dogs. Why can't you be more like Jesus?

Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Proverbs 26:11 As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Why is killing a dog such a big deal?

a history of cruelty to animals

Don't talk nonsense. It's an animal so it has no soul and no feelings. So it's clearly impossible to be cruel to an animal!

Genesis 9:3 "Every moving thing that liveth, shall be meat for you."

[TheHomosexualAgenda]

Re: Why is killing a dog such a big deal?

My friends up in North Dakota cannot talk of anything except this story:

http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/285916/

It seems a young man lost his temper about something his dog did. So, he tried to kill the dog by cutting its throat. The dog lived. Now the dog is being used by animal rights advocates for propaganda purposes.

There are two issues here. One issue is the Republican Party's Godly devotion to property rights. The owner owns the dog, not the other way around.

The other issue is, of course, that God gave humans dominian over animals, not the other way around.

No matter how many protests, demonstartions and weepy testimony there is about the poor dog, it's still just a dog. We need to organize counter protests with our favorite appropriate scriptures held high.

I've read this whole thread, and personal disgust aside, I thought I would try to bring some simple facts to the table.

The FBI has found that a history of cruelty to animals is one of the traits that regularly appear in its computer records of serial rapists and murderers, and the standard diagnostic and treatment manual for psychiatric and emotional disorders lists cruelty to animals as a diagnostic criterion for conduct disorders.

The problem here enlies not that the animal was his property, but that animal was a living creature. Now, that's not to imply I'm a vegan. I eat meat and dairy, and I'm wearing a leather jacket right now. The death of animal is a sad one, but something that humans have done as a necissity for thousands of years. The problem here enlies that he was senselessly killing not just an animal, but also an animal that wouldn't serve much purpose a game animal. There's no real benefit to killing a dog, and he was doing so purely for his own carnal instincts. This is a clear-cut case of animal cruelty, and is a sign that he probably has some problems controlling his violent urges and could one day lead him to rape or murder a human being.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Why is killing a dog such a big deal?

I just read that the Swiss are now killing peoples dogs if they don't pay 50 dollars this is just crazy people should be loving dogs not killing them couldn't they just get them new homes instead of killing them?

What's your problem with it? After all you petaphiles send all of your money to groups with the following attitude.

In 1994 when Winograd wrote to Newkirk asking for assistance regarding the safety of some feral cats, Newkirk responded:
"we do not advocate 'right to life' for animals" and "I'm not clear how the cats you referred to (who were at odds with their owners landlord) are to be allowed to live out their lives...we do have a policy against no-kills..." [emphasis added by Newkirk].

"We are not especially 'interested in' animals. Neither of us had ever been inordinately fond of dogs, cats, or horses in the way that many people are. We didn't 'love' animals." - Peter Singer, acknowledged founder of the animal rights movement.

This is what you liebrals do, you put people like this in power without looking at who they are behind the curtain. Then you whine and cry when their Jack Booted Soldiers kick your door in and take your poor fluffy away.

After all "we must neuter, neuter, neuter until the domestic cat like the domestic dog cease to exist" {PETA}

[TC Patriot]

Re: Why is killing a dog such a big deal?

When ever I have a dog that won't hunt I have my girls shoot it with their pellet guns. It takes a while. The dog gets its punishment for not hunting and the girls get target practice. My hope is that they will turn out like Sister Sarah Palin.

[SayvedByTheLord]

Re: Why is killing a dog such a big deal?

I just read that the Swiss are now killing peoples dogs if they don't pay 50 dollars this is just crazy people should be loving dogs not killing them couldn't they just get them new homes instead of killing them?

Send them all to Korea, they love dogs there.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Why is killing a dog such a big deal?

Well, I am not a big fan of killing dogs. The meat does not taste very good, the skin does not make good gloves. Finally, nigras are more afraid of live dogs than dead ones.

[Forest Spirit]

Re: Why is killing a dog such a big deal?

I just read that the Swiss are now killing peoples dogs if they don't pay 50 dollars this is just crazy people should be loving dogs not killing them couldn't they just get them new homes instead of killing them?

[Mistress Cookie]

Re: Why is killing a dog such a big deal?

I remeber that picture of Nastasia Kinski. She also played a cat person in one movie. A definite bestial streak, there.

I know, it's all very strange. She's from Red Russia or somewhere.

She changed the spelling of her name to "Nastassja" a few years ago in an obvious attempt to elude the authorities.

[handmaiden]

Re: Why is killing a dog such a big deal?

Although I agree whole heartedly with you eat what you kill (Seth does not tell me when he goes to crow shoots), that wasn't quite my point.



A week later, the dog was still alive. Obviously the boy had no idea what he was doing. Proper animal husbandry (i.e. dominion over animals) says that if you're going to kill an animal, you kill the animal.

Point taken, dear. Only the Lord has leave to inflict prolonged suffering on anyone or thing.

Agreeably Yours,

Handmaiden

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Why is killing a dog such a big deal?

Although I agree whole heartedly with you eat what you kill (Seth does not tell me when he goes to crow shoots), that wasn't quite my point.

The dog, a German shepherd mix named Star, wandered into a rural Fergus Falls yard about a week later and was taken to a veterinarian. Star had surgery and is now in a foster home awaiting adoption.

A week later, the dog was still alive. Obviously the boy had no idea what he was doing. Proper animal husbandry (i.e. dominion over animals) says that if you're going to kill an animal, you kill the animal.