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  • its_faith
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    • Jun 2010
    • 292

    #1

    Making homosexuality a crime on the ballot in Montana

    Praise Jesus the tide is turning fellow Christians as the good God fearing citizens of Montana have a chance to make this abomination to God a crime! Not being a citizen of Montana I can only pray this resolution passes! Hopefully they will make it a death penalty crime because the homers will see prison as an amusement park.

    Montana GOP policy: Make homosexuality illegal

    HELENA, Mont. – At a time when gays have been gaining victories across the country, the Republican Party in Montana still wants to make homosexuality illegal.

    The party adopted an official platform in June that keeps a long-held position in support of making homosexual acts illegal, a policy adopted after the Montana Supreme Court struck down such laws in 1997.

    The fact that it's still the official party policy more than 12 years later, despite a tidal shift in public attitudes since then and the party's own pledge of support for individual freedoms, has exasperated some GOP members.

    "I looked at that and said, 'You've got to be kidding me,'" state Sen. John Brueggeman, R-Polson, said last week. "Should it get taken out? Absolutely. Does anybody think we should be arresting homosexual people? If you take that stand, you really probably shouldn't be in the Republican Party."

    Gay rights have been rapidly advancing nationwide since the U.S. Supreme Court struck down Texas' sodomy law in 2003's Lawrence v. Texas decision. Gay marriage is now allowed in five states and Washington, D.C., a federal court recently ruled the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy unconstitutional, and even a conservative tea party group in Montana ousted its president over an anti-gay exchange in Facebook.

    But going against the grain is the Montana GOP statement, which falls under the "Crime" section of the GOP platform. It states: "We support the clear will of the people of Montana expressed by legislation to keep homosexual acts illegal."

    Montana GOP executive director Bowen Greenwood said that has been the position of the party since the state Supreme Court struck down state laws criminalizing homosexuality in 1997 in the case of Gryczan v. Montana.

    Nobody has ever taken the initiative to change it and so it's remained in the party platform, Greenwood said. The matter has never even come up for discussion, he said.

    "There had been at the time, and still is, a substantial portion of Republican legislators that believe it is more important for the Legislature to make the law instead of the Supreme Court," Greenwood said.

    Critics say the policy is a toothless statement, the effect of which is simply to make gays feel excluded. A University of Montana law professor says Montana's 1997 case and the U.S. Supreme Court's Lawrence decision means there's no real chance for the state GOP to act on its position.

    "To me, that statement legally is hollow," said constitutional specialist Jack Tuholske. "The principle under Gryczan and under Lawrence, that's the fundamental law of the land and the Legislature can't override the Constitution. It might express their view, but as far as a legal reality, it's a hollow view and can't come to pass."

    Montana Human Rights Network organizer Kim Abbott said the GOP platform statement does not represent the attitudes of most Montanans, and it shows that the party is out of touch with the prevalent view of the people they are supposed to represent.

    "It speaks volumes to the lesbian and gay community how they are perceived by the Republican Party," Abbott said. "It would be nice if Republicans that understand that gay people are human beings would stand up and say they don't agree with that. But I don't know how likely that is."

    Brueggeman suspects that the vast majority of the party believes, as he does, that the Republican party should remove statement. It's against every conservative principle for limited government and issues like this exemplify how a political party can interfere with the relationship between lawmakers and their constituents.

    "I just hope it's something that's so sensitive that people don't want to touch it," he said. "Even if there wasn't a Supreme Court decision, does anyone really believe that it should be illegal?"
  • David Micheal
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    • Aug 2010
    • 207

    #2
    Re: Making homosexuality a crime on the ballot in Montana

    Praise JESUS!

    The citizens of Montana have seen the light and are attempting to make homersexuality illegal! This should be a death penalty, because you that prison would like heaven to them.

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    • Nobar King
      Municipal Code Archivist - Deuteronomy 28:58
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      • Sep 2007
      • 23748

      #3
      Re: Making homosexuality a crime on the ballot in Montana

      Originally posted by David Micheal View Post
      This should be a death penalty, because you that prison would like heaven to them.
      They should send them to women's prison and make them share a cell with a lesbian. That would be good rehabilitation for the both of them.
      May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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      • David Micheal
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        • Aug 2010
        • 207

        #4
        Re: Making homosexuality a crime on the ballot in Montana

        Originally posted by Nobar King View Post
        They should send them to women's prison and make them share a cell with a lesbian. That would be good rehabilitation for the both of them.
        That is a wonderful idea. It would give them a chance at being STRAIGHT. Maybe after being rehabilitated they can see the light of Jesus and become True Christians?

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        • Billy Bob Jenkins
          Family Man of the Year 2010-2013
          About as Straight and Manly as you can get
          Hates anal sex. And trees.
          True Christian™
          • May 2010
          • 8337

          #5
          Re: Making homosexuality a crime on the ballot in Montana

          I can't stand how queers shove their perverted deathstyle in our faces by advertising their faggotry in public. They can't seem to get enough gay sex in private, so they have to do it in public as well. Otherwise there would be no issue. If homers kept it to themselves, it wouldn't matter if it was legal or not. The fact that this is even an issue is proof that homosexuals are raping children in public.
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          • Jedediah
            True Christian™ Creation Scientist
            Fisher of Men
            True Christian™
            • Feb 2010
            • 6824

            #6
            Re: Making homosexuality a crime on the ballot in Montana

            This is another sign that the winds of change are blowing in our direction! While this is commendable, it does not go far enough. They should be following the example set forth in the 2010 Texas GOP Platform (opens PDF document), which proscribes making it a felony to aid and abet queers seeking to flout the Will of God (see p.7, 'Marriage Licenses'). Regarding the queer lifestyle choice, the Texas GOP states the following (also on p.7 of the party platform):

            Originally posted by Godly Texas Republicans
            We believe that the practice of homosexuality tears at the fabric of society, contributes to the breakdown of the family unit, and leads to the spread of dangerous, communicable diseases.

            Homosexual behavior is contrary to the fundamental, unchanging truths that have been ordained by God, recognized by our country’s founders, and shared by the majority of Texans. Homosexuality must not be presented as an acceptable “alternative” lifestyle in our public education and policy, nor should “family” be redefined to include homosexual “couples.”

            We are opposed to any granting of special legal entitlements, refuse to recognize, or grant special privileges including, but not limited to: marriage between persons of the same sex (regardless of state of origin), custody of children by homosexuals, homosexual partner insurance or retirement benefits. We oppose any criminal or civil
            penalties against those who oppose homosexuality out of faith, conviction, or belief in traditional values.
            Further, the Texas GOP proposes reinstating sodomy laws, not only criminalizing gay sex, but taking a brave stand against oral sex between anybody. This is an excellent proposal because, aside from masturbation, oral sex is a leading cause of man seed being spilled outside of a woman's uterus, which, as the Holy Bible tells us (Genesis 38:9-10), is the only acceptable place for ejaculate.

            I look forward to the 2011 Texas GOP Platform, where they will take a stand against fornication and adultery, mandating hard time for anyone who ejaculates outside of their wife's baby-maker.

            There are clearly not enough laws on the books telling people where they can and can't ejaculate. I'm glad the Republican Party has finally turned its attention to this important issue.
            II Thessalonians 1:7-9
            And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
            In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
            Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power



            The man who is being progressively sanctified will inescapably sanctify his home, school, politics, economics, science, and all things else by understanding and interpreting all things in terms of the Word of God and by bringing all things under the Dominion of Christ the King. -R.J. Rushdoony

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            • James Dewitt
              #63 on Forbes'...but #1 in Jesus's Heart
              • Jan 2010
              • 6267

              #7
              Re: Making homosexuality a crime on the ballot in Montana

              As I pondered that wonderful post. One thing came to mind. Cowboys and Injuns, I wonder if the queers will fare much better.
              The sun is is at high noon, one one end of the street, a cowboy, a mans man, six gun at his side. On the other end of the dusty street stands a queer, dressed in pink ruffles and carrying a parasol. The cowboys say draw fagot, the queer says I don't believe in guns. To damn bad, don't show up at a gun fight carrying a parasol ! Man I love westerns.

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              • David Micheal
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                • Aug 2010
                • 207

                #8
                Re: Making homosexuality a crime on the ballot in Montana

                Originally posted by James Dewitt View Post
                As I pondered that wonderful post. One thing came to mind. Cowboys and Injuns, I wonder if the queers will fare much better.
                The sun is is at high noon, one one end of the street, a cowboy, a mans man, six gun at his side. On the other end of the dusty street stands a queer, dressed in pink ruffles and carrying a parasol. The cowboys say draw fagot, the queer says I don't believe in guns. To damn bad, don't show up at a gun fight carrying a parasol ! Man I love westerns.
                This is one of the best things I've read all day, however I don't think the queers would do better than the Indians, maybe worse.

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                • Wash O'Hanley
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                  • Sep 2006
                  • 2126

                  #9
                  Re: Making homosexuality a crime on the ballot in Montana

                  It's good to see Montana building that bridge back to 1878...
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                  • Rev. M. Rodimer
                    Honorary True Christian™
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                    • May 2008
                    • 13996

                    #10
                    Re: Making homosexuality a crime on the ballot in Montana

                    Originally posted by James Dewitt View Post
                    As I pondered that wonderful post. One thing came to mind. Cowboys and Injuns, I wonder if the queers will fare much better.
                    The sun is is at high noon, one one end of the street, a cowboy, a mans man, six gun at his side. On the other end of the dusty street stands a queer, dressed in pink ruffles and carrying a parasol. The cowboys say draw fagot, the queer says I don't believe in guns. To damn bad, don't show up at a gun fight carrying a parasol ! Man I love westerns.
                    Brother, I have met many homosexuals in my truck stop ministry. To a one, they are anti-gun.

                    It's almost like they WANT to be dragged behind trucks or strung up on barbed-wire fences. Maybe they LIKE being victims?
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