[Lisa H]

Re: The House just secretly repealed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"???

You are in the minority I'm sorry to tell you. Which should make you rethink how you want 'minorities' treated but that's up to you.

8 out of 10 Americans are for ending the whole "Don't ASK Don't TELL" mistake. It's getting ridiculous end it already.

I get the feeling you think the armed forces is just some Summer Adventure Camp. Armed forces are for killing the enemy, not something for gays to join to get paid for raping their fellow soldiers.

[Adilene]

Re: The House just secretly repealed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"???

You are in the minority I'm sorry to tell you. Which should make you rethink how you want 'minorities' treated but that's up to you.

8 out of 10 Americans are for ending the whole "Don't ASK Don't TELL" mistake. It's getting ridiculous end it already.

That is crazy! Why would you want your daughter flaunting her gayness!

[napa valley nan]

Re: The House just secretly repealed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"???

What we need is for Sister Palin to become President and have a majority in the house and senate. At that point you can kiss the constitution god bye. Here comes the KJV1611, and I can hardly wait.

You are in the minority I'm sorry to tell you. Which should make you rethink how you want 'minorities' treated but that's up to you.

8 out of 10 Americans are for ending the whole "Don't ASK Don't TELL" mistake. It's getting ridiculous end it already.

[James Dewitt]

Re: The House just secretly repealed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"???

Well we don't do that here. You I mean they can overturn rulings sometimes,

but it takes so long that by the time it got done and went into affect/binding the original matter you wanted it changed for would be done in the system already and out among the people. So there's no quick way.

And that's good because laws shouldn't be overturned rashly IMO (in my opinion)

You bet tell that to the Dummyrats. What we need is for Sister Palin to become President and have a majority in the house and senate. At that point you can kiss the constitution god bye. Here comes the KJV1611, and I can hardly wait.

[napa valley nan]

Re: The House just secretly repealed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"???

In Australia if there is some sort Law e.g. the Racial Discrimination Act that gets in the way of what The Government wants to do, e.g. block welfare payments to black people they just suspend that law and do it anyway

Well we don't do that here. You I mean they can overturn rulings sometimes,

but it takes so long that by the time it got done and went into affect/binding the original matter you wanted it changed for would be done in the system already and out among the people. So there's no quick way.

And that's good because laws shouldn't be overturned rashly IMO (in my opinion)

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: The House just secretly repealed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"???

Did you mean the fourteenth amendment? Why don't we take a look at that?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fourteenth Amendment, Section 1
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Those are the key words there, without due process of law. Now why don't we take another look at the thirteenth amendment?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thirteenth Amendment, Section 1
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

See what I'm getting at? There is nothing in the constitution that forbids slavery, involuntary servitude or the rights of the State to deprive people of life, liberty or property so long as it is done with due process of law.

The American constitution always fascinates me. In Australia if there is some sort Law e.g. the Racial Discrimination Act that gets in the way of what The Government wants to do, e.g. block welfare payments to black people they just suspend that law and do it anyway

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek! the bread is burning!!!

[Marshall]

Re: The House just secretly repealed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"???

I miss the good old days when you could shower with a bunch of men and it wasn't gay. When two guys popped a tent it was to sleep together not to get brokeback with each other. When men could skinnydip and sunbath and it wasn't gay if your cousin was there to rub the oil on your back. You cant just pour it out and roll in it in the grass. The gays need to stay out of the military. And the South.

[Lycia The Repentant]

Re: The House just secretly repealed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"???

Sister Lycia, I can tell you that I was impressed with your jurisprudence and expounding to Mrs What'shername where she went wrong.

As I read it I wondered if this meant that I should be paying "Boy" (my faithful retainer these past 40 years) some wages. He seems happy with his food, accommodation and his the attic space over the garage.

It also struck me that the "without due process of law" must mean that someone has to start the case, and that would be a complaining employee. But what has a volunteer to complain of? "Boy" (I must see if he had a real name) has remained with me since I bought him from a lynch mob in Huntsville back then.

Well Pastor Bathfire, I really don't know, just being a simple woman, and I think you might wish to direct your question towards our Godly lawyer Brother Gabriel or Judge HTannor.

However, it seems to me that your manservant has quite a good volunteer deal going for him. I think if he had wanted to leave he would have surely voiced his concerns to yourself or a neutral third party by now. But getting food and a place to live for free? Why, more people should benefit by such True Christian™ charity before they try to pass judgement.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: The House just secretly repealed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"???

Sister Lycia, I can tell you that I was impressed with your jurisprudence and expounding to Mrs What'shername where she went wrong.

As I read it I wondered if this meant that I should be paying "Boy" (my faithful retainer these past 40 years) some wages. He seems happy with his food, accommodation and his the attic space over the garage.

It also struck me that the "without due process of law" must mean that someone has to start the case, and that would be a complaining employee. But what has a volunteer to complain of? "Boy" (I must see if he had a real name) has remained with me since I bought him from a lynch mob in Huntsville back then.

[napa valley nan]

Re: The House just secretly repealed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"???

the fourtieth amendment???!!!

Okay obviously I meant the fourteenth ammendment as the young lady pointed out. I am trying to keep an eye on customers here

[Lycia The Repentant]

Re: The House just secretly repealed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"???

I am sorry I meant the fourtieth ammendment. “all persons born or naturalized in the United States,” they mean slaves, can't be denied "life, liberty or property, without due process of law" or to "deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

Anyway I think you know what I mean mr. nobar. Were not in a courtroom the point is its in there in the constitution and the lawyers are making that very clear.

(Also when I said Nelson versus baker a while back I meant Laurence versus texas)

Did you mean the fourteenth amendment? Why don't we take a look at that?

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Those are the key words there, without due process of law. Now why don't we take another look at the thirteenth amendment?

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

See what I'm getting at? There is nothing in the constitution that forbids slavery, involuntary servitude or the rights of the State to deprive people of life, liberty or property so long as it is done with due process of law.

Now all we need to do is get some True Christians™ in Congress and the White House and we can easily go back to Biblical law. Praise!

[Nobar King]

Re: The House just secretly repealed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"???

I am sorry I meant the fourtieth ammendment.

the fourtieth amendment???!!!

[napa valley nan]

Re: The House just secretly repealed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"???

It's too bad that the 13th amendment is too long for you to understand.

I am sorry I meant the fourtieth ammendment. “all persons born or naturalized in the United States,” they mean slaves, can't be denied "life, liberty or property, without due process of law" or to "deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

Anyway I think you know what I mean mr. nobar. Were not in a courtroom the point is its in there in the constitution and the lawyers are making that very clear.

(Also when I said Nelson versus baker a while back I meant Laurence versus texas)

[Nobar King]

Re: The House just secretly repealed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"???

If you look its in the bill of rights that's one of the building blocks of the Constitution. They have to agree with eachother. Also 13th ammendment that I don't have time to go into here I'm sure you have read it I hope.

It's too bad that the 13th amendment is too long for you to understand.

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.[2]

You are not my slave and you are not my equal, and even if you stand on seventeen copies of the constitution you STILL will not be my equal, nor should you ever want to be.

The Constitution is a legal document. The Holy Bible is a spiritual document. They are not mutually incompatible, but you seem to have mistaken one for the other, and shown no understanding of either. In this case I guess it's lucky that your daughter wasn't homeschooled

[James Dewitt]

Re: The House just secretly repealed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"???

=napa valley nan;656206]

I am thankful everyday for my gay daughter. She has taught me to appraise ones for what they are inside, not go by what I think I know, but to really know. She opened a new world to me where I could see how the world has become a better place.

So napa nan are you going the hell road too? Lesbos are destined to go to hell.

She taught me to love myself even if I have disappointed people, because some relatives turned away like she had disappointed them and I saw that was WRONG.

Incorrect, they had made the correct choice, turn your back to them.

She made me see every person has value because we are all here together. That is why I cannot say you people some of your people here are worthless because you're mean or anything like that, everyone has value even if they have bad days

When you have Jesus by your side "bad days" are non existent.