Marriage Questions

[tLakota]

I thought about this yesterday, but when I went to ask about it today I couldn't remember what it was. But I remember now, and I wanted to ask everyone's opinion.

Do you think that people that aren't Christians should be allowed to marry?

The divorce rate in this country is staggering. Many people are turning to different faiths, and of those a few are even altering their vows. Changing what was originally 'till death do us part', to 'as long as our love may last'.

The beginning of most ceremonies, the minister orchestrating the event says the whole 'Dearly beloved, we are gathered here today to witness the joining of these two souls before God.' But if they aren't Christian, doesn't that mean that their vows are worthless? I think they know deep inside that as soon as things get rocky, there really isn't anything compelling them to make it work.

So what do you think? Should they allow non-Christians to get married? And if you don't think it matters, is the divorce rate a matter of perspective? Or just a reflection of a society that refuses to commit to any one thing? Like cell phones, careers, and housing. Tell em what you think.

[JennyD]

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The beginning of most ceremonies, the minister orchestrating the event says the whole 'Dearly beloved, we are gathered here today to witness the joining of these two souls before God.' But if they aren't Christian, doesn't that mean that their vows are worthless? I think they know deep inside that as soon as things get rocky, there really isn't anything compelling them to make it work.

So what do you think? Should they allow non-Christians to get married? And if you don't think it matters, is the divorce rate a matter of perspective? Or just a reflection of a society that refuses to commit to any one thing? Like cell phones, careers, and housing. Tell em what you think.

If they aren't Christians, or if they aren't True Christians(tm)?

False Christians have an even higher divorce rate than atheists, for example. http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm

However, True Christians(tm) have a divorce rate of ZERO.

No couple who are both Landover Baptist True Christians(tm) at the time of marriage has separated by divorce. Ever. However, in instances where one is Saved(c) and the other refuses to come to Jesus, it is appropriate for the Saved(c) party to put the Unsaved Trash away from him or herself, in obedience of God's command to not be unequally yoked with unbelievers.

2 Corinthians 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

I hope this helps you in your walk with Jesus!

[tLakota]

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If they aren't Christians, or if they aren't True Christians™?

I was thinking any Christian that actually reads and then follows the bible. I think some people do that, even if they don't actually attend at Landover.

[Old Iron Crotch]

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I thought about this yesterday, but when I went to ask about it today I couldn't remember what it was. But I remember now, and I wanted to ask everyone's opinion.

Do you think that people that aren't Christians should be allowed to marry?

The divorce rate in this country is staggering. Many people are turning to different faiths, and of those a few are even altering their vows. Changing what was originally 'till death do us part', to 'as long as our love may last'.


Many people write their own vows - the ones used by most churches are not mandated, they're just a default.
People's vows should reflect their relationship, not simply be someone else's words that they repeat.

The beginning of most ceremonies, the minister orchestrating the event says the whole 'Dearly beloved, we are gathered here today to witness the joining of these two souls before God.' But if they aren't Christian, doesn't that mean that their vows are worthless? I think they know deep inside that as soon as things get rocky, there really isn't anything compelling them to make it work.

Not all weddings are conducted by ministers - some are conducted by JP's or ship's captains. And not all weddings begin with "gathered before God." Mine began with a calling of the quarters and invoking of the elements. And even if both parties are Christian, sometimes things happen that just can't be worked out. Jesus is not a guarantee that the marriage will last, and I know non-Christians whose marriages have outlasted those of Christians.

So what do you think? Should they allow non-Christians to get married?


Any consenting adults who wish to marry should be allowed to do so.

And if you don't think it matters, is the divorce rate a matter of perspective? Or just a reflection of a society that refuses to commit to any one thing? Like cell phones, careers, and housing. Tell em what you think.

In a sense, it is a matter of progress. Everyone talks about the "good old days" when divorce was almost unheard of, but that was more a reflection of a society where women had little chance of being able to support themselves and often got married and/or stayed married even if they didn't really want to, just to make sure they had a roof over their heads.

[tLakota]

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Wise post, Dances. Having never been married, one thing I seriously want is for my marriage, whenever it comes, to last. But you can't say that it doesn't matter how seriously you take your vows.

[Old Iron Crotch]

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Wise post, Dances. Having never been married, one thing I seriously want is for my marriage, whenever it comes, to last. But you can't say that it doesn't matter how seriously you take your vows.

I never meant to imply that it doesn't matter how seriously you take your vows. I take my marriage vows very seriously.
I was merely trying to point out the fact that one need not be Christian in order to take one's vows seriously. I guess I didn't make that clear - sorry.
And it's unfortuante, but there are times when no matter how seriously one spouse takes his/her vows, the other spouse behaves so heinously that there is no option left but to end the marriage.

[VictoryOS]

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Here we go again with the individualism...

What I'm reading in these posts is that marriage vows should reflect what the couple wants. Why doesn't anyone care what Jesus wants? Do you really think your feelings are more important than God's Plan? I suppose you think you can enter into an unholy marriage, then when you die Jesus will say, "Well, at least you loved each other so welcome to Heaven!"

Not gonna happen.

[Old Iron Crotch]

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Here we go again with the individualism...

What I'm reading in these posts is that marriage vows should reflect what the couple wants. Why doesn't anyone care what Jesus wants? Do you really think your feelings are more important than God's Plan? I suppose you think you can enter into an unholy marriage, then when you die Jesus will say, "Well, at least you loved each other so welcome to Heaven!"

Not gonna happen.

I'm not worried about what Jesus wants because I'm not married to Jesus.

God didn't consult me about his plans, so why should I consult him about mine?

As far as I am concerned, it's the couple's love for each other that makes a marriage holy.

[VictoryOS]

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God didn't consult me about his plans, so why should I consult him about mine?

Because God made you and this world you live in. Why are you atheists so thick that you can't understand this? God doesn't need your permission for the things He does. You are not on God's planning committee. If you keep going down the path you're currently on, you will eventually be cast into the Lake of Fire. Do you think God will consult with you on that and get your opinion first?

[Old Iron Crotch]

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Because God made you and this world you live in. Why are you atheists so thick that you can't understand this? God doesn't need your permission for the things He does. You are not on God's planning committee. If you keep going down the path you're currently on, you will eventually be cast into the Lake of Fire. Do you think God will consult with you on that and get your opinion first?

God didn't make me - my mom and dad made me. And if I no longer need to ask their permission to marry as I choose, I certainly don't need to ask it from a god whose existence has yet to be proven to me.

[Reuerend RauenMoone]

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The divorce rate in this country is staggering. Many people are turning to different faiths, and of those a few are even altering their vows. Changing what was originally 'till death do us part', to 'as long as our love may last'.

That's called handfasting. It's like marriage, but the vows can be for one year, for a life time, for eternity, or for as long as love shall last. All of the ceremonies I perform are handfasting ceremonies. We need a Wiccan president or some Wiccan supreme court justices so we can get legal recognition for handfasting on par with the legal recognition for marriage.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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That's called handfasting. It's like marriage, but the vows can be for one year, for a life time, for eternity, or for as long as love shall last. All of the ceremonies I perform are handfasting ceremonies. We need a Wiccan president or some Wiccan supreme court justices so we can get legal recognition for handfasting on par with the legal recognition for marriage.

That's a euphemism for masturbating each other, isn't it.

Do NOT post porno on our Godly forum you hellbound pervert!

[ExGay Alex]

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... the vows can be for one year, for a life time, for eternity, or for as long as love shall last ...

It sounds like they just swap on and off like alley cats.