[Isabella White]

Re: Disabled People Irk Me

I misplaced my spectacles again and misread this thread title as Disabled People In Me and you had me very worried. That's not to say I'm disabled in sight, yet I am hard of seeing, not quite the same thing.

Dear Miss Brent: Might I kindly suggest the use of eyeglass chains for your spectacles? With this handy convenience, your glasses will rarely be misplaced again. Having your spectacles available for use at all times, this will reduce, very greatly, your risk of (accidentally) reaching for another nip of cooking sherry.

Sincerely, Isabella W.

[Emily Brent]

Re: Disabled People Irk Me

That is a stylish suggestion, thank you Sisyer Isolbella

[JakubDovac]

Re: Disabled People Irk Me

What would you do to a Nationalist with only one arm? I'd rather be around with such a person than a Demoncrat with two arms. So this title is misleading. LOL, I'm fine with rich people as long as they are conservatives. Rich Libtards like Robert DeNiro are godless reprobates.
And I'm 100 %ly healthy. But a little reminder to those who are not...


Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord James 5:14


Can't be any simpler... except with the Catholics who interpret it their way. No wonder why they also introduced an effeminate hippie Jesus with long hair.

[Diesel Stanford]

Re: Disabled People Irk Me

What would you do to a Nationalist with only one arm? I'd rather be around with such a person than a Demoncrat with two arms. So this title is misleading. LOL, I'm fine with rich people as long as they are conservatives. Rich Libtards like Robert DeNiro are godless reprobates.
And I'm 100 %ly healthy. But a little reminder to those who are not...


Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord James 5:14


Can't be any simpler... except with the Catholics who interpret it their way. No wonder why they also introduced an effeminate hippie Jesus with long hair.

And here's Jakub again with his funny logic... you believe you could work for your salvation. The truth is God give salvation by grace only in this dispensation (you quoted James which was adressed to the twelve tribes)... the reality however also is that salvation and healing/deliverance cannot be separated. True Christians don't have demons or something like that.


All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. Isaiah 53:6


If you are born again, you can't struggle with sickness or trust in your works. You are a child of God, bought with a price... except that YOU are not since you are a child of the devil.


If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:8-9

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Disabled People Irk Me

By subdividing your comments it will be easier to address four specific aspects of your reply.

—• The truth is God give salvation by grace only in this dispensation
—• (you quoted James which was adressed to the twelve tribes)
—• the reality however also is that salvation and healing/deliverance cannot be separated.
—• True Christians don't have demons or something like that.

Salvation is by grace only at any time. Later on you refer to Isaiah 53, a wonderful passage of course but one which does not stand alone. Earlier the prophet made the following comparison:

Isaiah 26:17-18 Like as a woman with child, that draweth near the time of her delivery, is in pain, and crieth out in her pangs; so have we been in thy sight, O LORD. We have been with child, we have been in pain, we have as it were brought forth wind; we have not wrought any deliverance in the earth; neither have the inhabitants of the world fallen.

That's part of Isaiah's poetic encomium, celebrating God in the world, attributed to a future time. Nothing can be achieved by our own efforts at any time, only by His grace. And no, I don't mean the Duke of Edinburgh. Left to ourselves we'd deserve no more than to drop dead on the spot but that is not how Isaiah unfolds:

19 Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.

We know now, from the historical record of The New Testament, what this passage refers to. Only by grace should dead bodies rise and at the supreme moment of history many cadavers did just that so immense was the Grace working through Love for Redemption. They walked to declare Salvation for those who'll love Him back but, quite rightly, everyone else will fry.

—• The truth is God give salvation by grace only in this dispensation
—• (you quoted James which was adressed to the twelve tribes)
—• the reality however also is that salvation and healing/deliverance cannot be separated.
—• True Christians don't have demons or something like that.

Are you suggesting the meaning of a passage is restricted to the group being addressed at the time? Clearly in some cases there's a limited application for example when Peter addressed the problem of Ananias and Sapphira no incantation to murder everyone in the world was called for. Or even to murder the immediate congregation. His words had a limited application which you'll find in Acts 5. Peter offers a further example of Scripture's broad application:

I Peter 1:1-3 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied. Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead.

Salvation is equally available to all, not more so to the twelve tribes but less so to everyone else. Not everyone will accept it but in accordance with God's plan the Gospel is presented universally for a response to be made. He knows what that response will be and why rejection of His Perfect Love is the majority response but makes the offer anyway.

Revelation 7:9-10 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; and cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

You'd quoted from John's epistles and there is the evidence he recorded from future history vouchsafed to him by God so that we would know.

—• The truth is God give salvation by grace only in this dispensation
—• (you quoted James which was adressed to the twelve tribes)
—• the reality however also is that salvation and healing/deliverance cannot be separated.
—• True Christians don't have demons or something like that.

Sticking with John we see that Christians do not sin. Having acknowledged sin to utterly possess us, making us so revolting to God that even though He loves us He will torture us forever if we fail to reciprocate (which He assures us is impossible) unless He murders His son, the portal was opened for Redemption.

I John 3:8-10c He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God

Would it then follow that Christians do not become diseased in the first place? This is something John refers to in another epistle and if sin is the cause of ill health then sinless individuals (Christians) would never become ill.

III John 1:2 Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.

There are people who claim to be Christians but who seem to make up stuff they either like the sound of or which does not contradict "science" as they see it. That would rule out virtually everything in The Bible which brings us to your final point.

—• The truth is God give salvation by grace only in this dispensation
—• (you quoted James which was adressed to the twelve tribes)
—• the reality however also is that salvation and healing/deliverance cannot be separated.
—• True Christians don't have demons or something like that.

There are even people claiming themselves to have been delivered from the clutches of sin who consider others (whom they regard as Christians) to be demon possessed. Is this possible? Would there be a qualitative difference between someone possessed by Beelzebub grunting during hymns and someone with nits?

I John 3:21-22; 24b-4:3 If our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God. And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight … And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: and every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Plainly John expects Christians to encounter spirits. In what capacity is not made clear, whether through words uttered by demoniacs whom I'd have thought unlikely to be mistaken for Christians or by some other means. If you're interested who's worse for Christians to be possessed by, Beelzebub or The Antichrist, you'd need to ask the Pastors; outside of Romish catholicism or the various orthodox and oriental heresies such possession states including trances brought on by new-age meditation would not be taken to indicate holiness. I hope this is helpful.

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