[Brother Temperance]

Re: Is the Wii ungodly??

Just because you can't deal with loud rock music doesn't mean its satanic. There is a Jesus+Rock option, and I have chosen it.

Friend, this is the cover of a typical secular rock music album:

Explain to me how that is not Satanic. Go on, I'm waiting. As the saying goes, real edgemen hate Jesus!

[Homertard]

Re: Is the Wii ungodly??

If you agree to fight on fair debating terms, Brother, then, may I tell you?

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Is the Wii ungodly??

If you agree to fight on fair debating terms, Brother, then, may I tell you?

Depends what you mean by "fair debating terms." I'm all in favour of discussing things like civilised adults, but since you are a secularist/Stalinist, your idea of a "fair debate" is probably me blindly agreeing with whatever you say. Nevertheless, feel free to jibber your incoherent jabber on the subject.

[Homertard]

Re: Is the Wii ungodly??

I'll take that as a "yes". I am an adult, and behave I when I want to. I just request that we do not bring each others beliefs, faith, life, or general background into this.

Let's begin.

Well, Choking Victim, are hardcore punk. Personally (and I'm gunna expect insults, given my love for rock) I never liked punk. Prefered Proggressive Metal. Not all Rock is evil. One band by the name of Killswitch Engage are Christain Metal. I've seen them. lol

Back to this album in general.

The band are, from the looks of this cd cover, claiming that Managers are on the same level as God's, as hinted on the saying No Managers = No God's. Generally, from the "No" statement, they refuse God. But as the album suggests, they are infact against Managers who play God, and rule in the form of Tyrants. Generally speaking, the album is about Managers who play God, and people who oppose this powerplay. Abit like Jews holding all the money, and others suffering in poverty. (Not a racist comment, but it was like that at one point)

In conclusion to this, whether they are evil or not, the album merely suggests that people playing God is wrong, and are against it.

I don't know much on the band's music, or lyrics, but that was my general first statement on the album.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Is the Wii ungodly??

Generally, from the "No" statement, they refuse God.

So, generally they refuse God, and they have the symbol of Satan on their album cover, but they're not Satanic?

[Homertard]

Re: Is the Wii ungodly??

Well, regardless of not beileving in Jesus, they may have interests in Satan, but may generally not beileved in either Regilion. It is possible to do this, regardless of Satan's draw, some have resisted both God and Satan.

I must say, however, that real santic bands must be shun at all times.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Is the Wii ungodly??

Well, regardless of not beileving in Jesus, they may have interests in Satan, but may generally not beileved in either Regilion. It is possible to do this, regardless of Satan's draw, some have resisted both God and Satan.

I must say, however, that real santic bands must be shun at all times.

Silly boy. It is impossible to resist both God and Satan, since all those who do not worship Jesus are of the antichrist. And will you be shunning Led Zeppelin and Slayer at all times, since we have proved that they are really "santic"?

[Homertard]

Re: Is the Wii ungodly??

I'm not taking my posters of them down. I am not discarding the albums I own by them. I am not getting rid of my slayer and Led Zep shirts.

So no. I'm not shunning them.

Okay, then, how is it impossible? Because many people do it.

Bands that are really santic: Gorgoroth, Deicide, Danzig, Emporer ect. Are truely satnic. As in the people in question follow satan. Morons really. Guys like Gaahl are evil. Guy's like Jimmy Page are very talented guitarists.

Band's like Led Zep create lyrics which have very faint traces of such things, which gives there lyrics a theme to it and stops lyrics from being all the same. Where in the lyrics of any of Led Zep's songs do you think it is santic?

Again: I don't care for the lyrics. I go for the acutal sounds the band makes Eg: drums, Vocals.

[Sister Noddy]

Re: Is the Wii ungodly??

... since all those who do not worship Jesus are of the antichrist ...

... so say all of yooooooou who are literalist fundies, of course ... but as for the rest of us with ordinary everyday common sense ...

... couldn't resist!

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Is the Wii ungodly??

... so say all of yooooooou who are literalist fundies, of course ... but as for the rest of us with ordinary everyday common sense ...

... couldn't resist!

Ok, so how does your apostate antichrist Church interpret this verse?
1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

[Sister Noddy]

Re: Is the Wii ungodly??

Ok, so how does your apostate antichrist Church interpret this verse?

1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Okay, match for match, Brother T. Here is the whole chapter.

I John, Chapter 4:

Verse:
1: Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2: Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4: Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5: They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
6: We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
7: Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
8: He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
9: In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.
10: Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
11: Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.
12: No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
13: Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.
14: And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
15: Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
16: And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
17: Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.
18: There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
19: We love him, because he first loved us.
20: If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
21: And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

As far as I can tell, this is speaking of God and God-as-love, and people who live lives of love (for fellowman) are of God -- or Godly.

But where does it specifically say that a modern song is of satan because it isn't of God?

Or, for example a cookbook? -- cookbooks usually don't mention Jesus anywhere in amidst the recipes.

Where does it say that ordinary everyday logic and common sense are not Godly?

Anyway, who am I to be expected to know what the scriptures mean? I'm just a communion minister. The priests are supposed to know the theological meanings of all this stuff

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Is the Wii ungodly??

He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.
Proverbs 28:26

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Is the Wii ungodly??

As far as I can tell, this is speaking of God and God-as-love, and people who live lives of love (for fellowman) are of God -- or Godly.

Yes, it does. And we do love eachother.
Your point being what, foolish woman? How does this contradict the verse IN said verses?

But where does it specifically say that a modern song is of satan because it isn't of God?

If a man isn't made sinfree by God, then he is a slave to sin and satan...
Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey;
Whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin,
But ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
Romans 6:16-18

And thus his (the unbelievers) works will be evil, his works will be of satan...
Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. (This is why we must burn all Harry Potter books!)
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Matthew 7:16-20

This is simple and well known by anyone who actually knows anything about the Holy Bible..

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.
They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is NONE that doeth good.
Psalm 14:1

Or, for example a cookbook? -- cookbooks usually don't mention Jesus anywhere in amidst the recipes.

Where does it say that ordinary everyday logic and common sense are not Godly?

We use logic.. But we use God-given logic, the one the Holy Spirit has granted us.
You simply trust in your own fantasies and imaginations, and then try to pass them off as "common sense" or logic.
And using any logic (which you're quite innocent of ) which isn't of God is evil, as if you use it, your put your faith in yourself, not God.
Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.
Proverbs 3:5-7

Anyway, who am I to be expected to know what the scriptures mean? I'm just a communion minister.

And a foolish woman to boot. It's a well known fact that women are more easily deceived by satan than men, and Lo, just look at you:
Deceived by satan.

The priests are supposed to know the theological meanings of all this stuff

I AM a theologian..
So yeah, you don't know what the scriptures mean.. But neither are you expected to.
Get back in the kitchen, woman. It is not fit for you to try and teach.