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You know, you sent me a private message threatening to ban me. And here, you call me a heathen scum. Did I call anyone names? Did I threaten to kill you?
You are the threat, here. Spoken in honest words. This is what people who do not call themselves christians see in a belief like yours. This is how you project yourselves to others. You need to take a look at that. I wasn't attacking the pastor, I was just putting up a healthy debate. I'm being completely mature and composed here.
If you ban me, do you know what's going to happen? You're showing an example to people that you do not accept others for their words. I thought christianity was okay up until this point. I had some pretty off experiences in church before. They weren't devastating because people in that church were friendly, and yet I never posed a threat, and they knew it. Here, it's like nobody can see you, so you think you can just throw filthy names out. You're behind a protective wall called a website forum. To say the least, you guys even post your photos up. I pose no threat to anyone. It's funny how you can just go around calling people not like yourself demons.
It really is. Please. If you ban me for being in a subtle, non-offensive nature, I can certainly see just how strict this place is. Where all you can possibly talk about are things within one dimension - the bible says this, the bible says that - the bible says everything under the sun, but it doesn't encompass the value of life, which is not to throw stones and lash out like demons and call people heathen scum or unsaved trash. I'm speaking for a lot of people who see the same things as I do.
The world is so much more colorful than just the bible. At least if you go by the book, learn to shed light on all things. Therein, you'll see just how much more out of life you can get. I didn't think I'd get threatened to be banned for speaking my mind. In America, they call that freedom of speech. But...to face your demons, brings you to light. Not by calling names and sending out death threats from Jesus like candy at your demons, but by letting the bad pass, and move on from it. Once you stop focusing on the bad, all the demons go away, and you see peace, instead.
What you put in your mind, becomes your reality. You guys have so many fears on life, it's not funny. Demons aren't bad at all. They're just shadows in your mind that leave you afraid. Bravery can overcome those demons. But boldness is when you let no demons get to you, ever. By you calling me demonic in some way, by lashing out at me, you haven't gotten over your fears.
What's the worst I could do? I'm not going to hell for saying this. My life is very different from yours. I don't have the same fears and joys as you do, I'm very happy with what I have to say to you. I know enough about christianity to be driven away from it. That's how much I know.
Did you know that Jesus was gnostic? Probably not. You filter in what you want, and leave the rest behind. I filter everything, and find proof and fallacies. Spirituality is real. Physical science is real. Go ahead. Clear your mind, and study upon Jesus a little more. You'll see that he wasn't a demi-god. He wasn't immortal. He was a human being, and he got angry. This is a verse that didn't make it into cannon:
Jesus said to his disciples, "Compare me to something and tell me what I am like."
Simon Peter said to him, "You are like a just angel."
Matthew said to him, "You are like a wise philosopher."
Thomas said to him, "Teacher, my mouth is utterly unable to say what you are like."
Jesus said, "I am not your teacher. Because you have drunk, you have become intoxicated from the bubbling spring that I have tended."
And he took him, and withdrew, and spoke three sayings to him.
When Thomas came back to his friends they asked him, "What did Jesus say to you?"
Thomas said to them, "If I tell you one of the sayings he spoke to me, you will pick up rocks and stone me, and fire will come from the rocks and devour you."
In actuality of the quote, Jesus mentions he's not that great. The three things he told Thomas were: "I'm not an angel. I'm not all that brilliant. And you know well what I'm like because you didn't suck up to me; you know I'm not all that great." Here, Jesus is being humble and down to earth. Now, what god would admit a flaw? Certainly not the man upstairs! The three who he had compare him to something were brainwashed beforehand into believing he was a supernatural demi god with superhuman powers only a god could have - hence their 'drunkenness'. The people who brainwashed them were the ones who later hung Jesus on the cross. I can tell it was a passage that didn't make it into the bible because there's no actual comedy involved. It's a real passage. Now, why do you think it was written in the first place? Why do you think it was cut out of the bible? Because it contradicted so much. That's what you'd call a holey bible, in which this passage would have filled. Think about it.
In the mainstream bible, Jesus is basically posing himself as a tremendously great thing by trying to make people tell him he's the best. If I were standing before Jesus and he told me that, it would make me feel like a very terrible person to who poses such a question. It would make me feel worthless - hypothetically if I'm looking at him as he said that, I would see a fault in his statement as I'm now pointing out. What a jerk! Everyone raise your hands if you like self-oriented jerks? (I can see you all raising your hands at me, instead.) Jesus is standing proud, begging for compliments rather than letting the compliments come to him. This is a very rude and selfish act if he were to be a so-called spiritual being. He's asking for you to search for an answer that he is the absolute best no matter what they say - they could compare him to dog crap, and suddenly he's so glorious. While this isn't the case in the quote, he's referring to himself as being the best thing ever, like a god. The undertone I sense here is he's saying he's better than. If Jesus was such a peaceful thing, unworldly, if he were like an angel, he wouldn't have the capacity to think he's better than anyone else. He lives on earth (or at least he did), so he's in the natural mindset to judge and be selfish - and people thought that was outstanding?
Well, my message is out there in a christian community. Now, feel free to attack me like vultures.
You fear your own demons.
Amaya has spoken. A.K.A., Saber Firestar.
Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel
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You are the threat, here. Spoken in honest words. This is what people who do not call themselves christians see in a belief like yours. This is how you project yourselves to others. You need to take a look at that. I wasn't attacking the pastor, I was just putting up a healthy debate. I'm being completely mature and composed here.
If you ban me, do you know what's going to happen? You're showing an example to people that you do not accept others for their words. I thought christianity was okay up until this point. I had some pretty off experiences in church before. They weren't devastating because people in that church were friendly, and yet I never posed a threat, and they knew it. Here, it's like nobody can see you, so you think you can just throw filthy names out. You're behind a protective wall called a website forum. To say the least, you guys even post your photos up. I pose no threat to anyone. It's funny how you can just go around calling people not like yourself demons.
It really is. Please. If you ban me for being in a subtle, non-offensive nature, I can certainly see just how strict this place is. Where all you can possibly talk about are things within one dimension - the bible says this, the bible says that - the bible says everything under the sun, but it doesn't encompass the value of life, which is not to throw stones and lash out like demons and call people heathen scum or unsaved trash. I'm speaking for a lot of people who see the same things as I do.
The world is so much more colorful than just the bible. At least if you go by the book, learn to shed light on all things. Therein, you'll see just how much more out of life you can get. I didn't think I'd get threatened to be banned for speaking my mind. In America, they call that freedom of speech. But...to face your demons, brings you to light. Not by calling names and sending out death threats from Jesus like candy at your demons, but by letting the bad pass, and move on from it. Once you stop focusing on the bad, all the demons go away, and you see peace, instead.
What you put in your mind, becomes your reality. You guys have so many fears on life, it's not funny. Demons aren't bad at all. They're just shadows in your mind that leave you afraid. Bravery can overcome those demons. But boldness is when you let no demons get to you, ever. By you calling me demonic in some way, by lashing out at me, you haven't gotten over your fears.
What's the worst I could do? I'm not going to hell for saying this. My life is very different from yours. I don't have the same fears and joys as you do, I'm very happy with what I have to say to you. I know enough about christianity to be driven away from it. That's how much I know.
Did you know that Jesus was gnostic? Probably not. You filter in what you want, and leave the rest behind. I filter everything, and find proof and fallacies. Spirituality is real. Physical science is real. Go ahead. Clear your mind, and study upon Jesus a little more. You'll see that he wasn't a demi-god. He wasn't immortal. He was a human being, and he got angry. This is a verse that didn't make it into cannon:
Jesus said to his disciples, "Compare me to something and tell me what I am like."
Simon Peter said to him, "You are like a just angel."
Matthew said to him, "You are like a wise philosopher."
Thomas said to him, "Teacher, my mouth is utterly unable to say what you are like."
Jesus said, "I am not your teacher. Because you have drunk, you have become intoxicated from the bubbling spring that I have tended."
And he took him, and withdrew, and spoke three sayings to him.
When Thomas came back to his friends they asked him, "What did Jesus say to you?"
Thomas said to them, "If I tell you one of the sayings he spoke to me, you will pick up rocks and stone me, and fire will come from the rocks and devour you."
In actuality of the quote, Jesus mentions he's not that great. The three things he told Thomas were: "I'm not an angel. I'm not all that brilliant. And you know well what I'm like because you didn't suck up to me; you know I'm not all that great." Here, Jesus is being humble and down to earth. Now, what god would admit a flaw? Certainly not the man upstairs! The three who he had compare him to something were brainwashed beforehand into believing he was a supernatural demi god with superhuman powers only a god could have - hence their 'drunkenness'. The people who brainwashed them were the ones who later hung Jesus on the cross. I can tell it was a passage that didn't make it into the bible because there's no actual comedy involved. It's a real passage. Now, why do you think it was written in the first place? Why do you think it was cut out of the bible? Because it contradicted so much. That's what you'd call a holey bible, in which this passage would have filled. Think about it.
In the mainstream bible, Jesus is basically posing himself as a tremendously great thing by trying to make people tell him he's the best. If I were standing before Jesus and he told me that, it would make me feel like a very terrible person to who poses such a question. It would make me feel worthless - hypothetically if I'm looking at him as he said that, I would see a fault in his statement as I'm now pointing out. What a jerk! Everyone raise your hands if you like self-oriented jerks? (I can see you all raising your hands at me, instead.) Jesus is standing proud, begging for compliments rather than letting the compliments come to him. This is a very rude and selfish act if he were to be a so-called spiritual being. He's asking for you to search for an answer that he is the absolute best no matter what they say - they could compare him to dog crap, and suddenly he's so glorious. While this isn't the case in the quote, he's referring to himself as being the best thing ever, like a god. The undertone I sense here is he's saying he's better than. If Jesus was such a peaceful thing, unworldly, if he were like an angel, he wouldn't have the capacity to think he's better than anyone else. He lives on earth (or at least he did), so he's in the natural mindset to judge and be selfish - and people thought that was outstanding?
Well, my message is out there in a christian community. Now, feel free to attack me like vultures.
You fear your own demons.
Amaya has spoken. A.K.A., Saber Firestar.
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