[Kenneth (aka "Mr. K")]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

Listen hippie; This is a CHRISTIAN forum, not a place for dope dealers to push narcotics on children. Our Godly troops are not over in Iraquistan sending towelheads to hell so that you can shoot drugs and laugh about it.



You can't even speak American! Getouttahere!

First of all, I'm not a hippie, I'm just a working class guy.
Second of all, I don't drink alcohol or do drugs (or sell them), I just happen to be interested in the history of psychology, and many drugs have been tested/used for psychological research, also, some of my friends smoke pot, so I know everything about it.
And third of all, I know I didn't write capitals, but I don't think my ENGLISH (oh, right, did you already forget you do NOT own the world?) is bad, do you?
Tot ziens
Au revoir
Auf wiedersehn
Hasta luego
Goodbye

[Ebenezer Wright]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

First of all, I'm not a hippie, I'm just a working class guy.
Second of all, I don't drink alcohol or do drugs (or sell them), I just happen to be interested in the history of psychology, and many drugs have been tested/used for psychological research, also, some of my friends smoke pot, so I know everything about it.
And third of all, I know I didn't write capitals, but I don't think my ENGLISH (oh, right, did you already forget you do NOT own the world?) is bad, do you?
Tot ziens
Au revoir
Auf wiedersehn
Hasta luego
Goodbye

Just because your friends smoke pot you think you know all about it! Rubbish! Your probably high right now just from being around those dirty spacecases.

I have done plenty of research and it all shows that pot is for dopes and idiots. And people who choose to be with potheads also aren't the brightest bulbs in the tanning bed.

I'd ban you right now if I could for using such vile foreign languages on this Christian AMERICAN forum!

[Mr. Jingles]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

Let's face some hard pot facts:

Smoking marijuana doubles a persons chances of becoming a communist. One day you're smoking a joint, and next thing, you'll want to move to Cuba. Many theologians have said that while a person is high on pot, their soul temporarily leaves their body. If they die while stoned, they won't be able to go to Heaven & face judgement; they'll automatically be sent to Hell. I'd say everybody living in the Netherlands is doomed. A 'harmless weed?' I think not.

[Kenneth (aka "Mr. K")]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

Just because your friends smoke pot you think you know all about it! Rubbish! Your probably high right now just from being around those dirty spacecases.

I have done plenty of research and it all shows that pot is for dopes and idiots. And people who choose to be with potheads also aren't the brightest bulbs in the tanning bed.

I'd ban you right now if I could for using such vile foreign languages on this Christian AMERICAN forum!

Hey, I know this forum is American, but your country's language is still officially known as English, that's why I wrote it in capitals.
And I hope you know America (yes, the United States of America) has a much bigger percentage of youngsters who smoke pot than Belgium or even the Netherlands, so if it's true what you say, I'd have to wish you good luck, since you're groing old in the stupidest, most doped up country of the future...
Hereby I don't mean anything threatening by the way, in case you should think about calling Homeland Security again, like you did for all those other ridiculous reasons...
I just think you've all locked yourself out of the world so far away, that you have absolutely no idea what the real world is like nowadays... It sure ain't that dirty, filthy, loaded with drugs & crimes kind of place you think it is.
Considering all the real evil threats that attack us (like real terrorism) humanity isn't doing too bad at all...

[Nobar King]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

And I hope you know America (yes, the United States of America) has a much bigger percentage of youngsters who smoke pot than Belgium or even the Netherlands, so if it's true what you say, I'd have to wish you good luck, since you're groing old in the stupidest, most doped up country of the future...

Can you back that up with any facts? Or is it just something you 'know'.

[Kenneth (aka "Mr. K")]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

Let's face some hard pot facts:

Smoking marijuana doubles a persons chances of becoming a communist. One day you're smoking a joint, and next thing, you'll want to move to Cuba. Many theologians have said that while a person is high on pot, their soul temporarily leaves their body. If they die while stoned, they won't be able to go to Heaven & face judgement; they'll automatically be sent to Hell. I'd say everybody living in the Netherlands is doomed. A 'harmless weed?' I think not.

I think you're confusing pot with lsd. Weed doesn't make you hallucinate or doesn't make your soul leave your body, people just use it because it's relaxing and painkilling.

[Kenneth (aka "Mr. K")]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

Can you back that up with any facts? Or is it just something you 'know'.

WebMD)

Article at CBS News
link:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/01/health/webmd/main4222322.shtml

Despite tough anti-drug laws, a new survey shows the U.S. has the highest level of illegal drug use in the world.

The World Health Organization's survey of legal and illegal drug use in 17 countries, including the Netherlands and other countries with less stringent drug laws, shows Americans report the highest level of cocaine and marijuana use.

For example, Americans were four times more likely to report using cocaine in their lifetime than the next closest country, New Zealand (16% vs. 4%),

Marijuana use was more widely reported worldwide, and the U.S. also had the highest rate of use at 42.4% compared with 41.9% of New Zealanders.

In contrast, in the Netherlands, which has more liberal drug policies than the U.S., only 1.9% of people reported cocaine use and 19.8% reported marijuana use.

"Globally, drug use is not distributed evenly and is not simply related to drug policy, since countries with stringent user-level illegal drug policies did not have lower levels of use than countries with liberal ones," researcher Louisa Degenhardt of the University of New South Wales, Australia, and colleagues write in PLoS Medicine.

U.S. Leads Drug Use

In the study, researchers surveyed more than 54,000 adults in the Americas (Colombia, Mexico, and the United States), Europe (Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, Spain, Ukraine), Middle East and Africa (Israel, Lebanon, Nigeria, South Africa), Asia, (Japan, China) and Oceania (New Zealand).

The survey included questions about legalized drug use, such as alcohol and tobacco, and illegal drug use, including cocaine and marijuana, during the participant's lifetime.

Overall, alcohol had been used by most of those surveyed in the Americas, Europe, Japan, and New Zealand compared with much smaller proportions in the Middle East, Africa, and China.

Tobacco use was also most common in the U.S. (74%), followed by Lebanon (67%) and Mexico (60%).

Researchers found gender and socioeconomic differences in both legal and illegal drug use. For example, men were more likely than women to have used legal and illegal drugs, and younger adults were more likely than older adults to have used drugs of all kinds.

Single adults were more likely than married adults to report tobacco, marijuana, and cocaine use but not alcohol use. People with higher incomes were also more likely to use both legal and illegal drugs.

"The use of drugs seems to be a feature of more affluent countries. The U.S., which has been driving much of the world's drug research and drug policy agenda, stands out with higher levels of use of alcohol, cocaine, and cannabis, despite punitive illegal drug policies, as well as (in many U.S. states), a higher minimum legal alcohol drinking age than many comparable developed countries," write the researchers.

[Nobar King]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

That's BS. All that study shows is that American kids aren't worried about their commie leaders coming down hard on them for filling in a simple poll. The numbers would be the same if you could get accurate results.

[Kenneth (aka "Mr. K")]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

That's BS. All that study shows is that American kids aren't worried about their commie leaders coming down hard on them for filling in a simple poll.

Yeah, well, apparently American kids are brave then... With the toughest Anti-Drug Government in the Western World, your youngsters are the least feared to admit they do drugs sometimes... In fact, in spite of the danger of admitting it, they said it just for fun... That doesn't make sence sir... Is it so hard to admit that the WHO could be right? That it's not (only) the rest of the world who brings shit to America, but America (at least a big part) that brings shit to itself?

The numbers would be the same if you could get accurate results.

Well, you don't believe the results of the most reliable health care organization on the planet, but you do believe in God... With all do respect sir, I am not mocking God, but that just doesn't make sense to me.
The World Health Organization is the leading health care organization, the most honest, the most reliable, and the biggest. They ARE able to acquire precise results...
But then again, on this forum I ain't surprised of nothing anymore.

[Nobar King]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

The World Health Organization is the leading health care organization, the most honest, the most reliable, and the biggest. They ARE able to acquire precise results...
But then again, on this forum I ain't surprised of nothing anymore.

Someone needs to take an introductory course in statistics.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

I think you're confusing pot with lsd. Weed doesn't make you hallucinate or doesn't make your soul leave your body, people just use it because it's relaxing and painkilling.

STOP PUSHING DOPE ON OUR FORUM YOU LITTLE HEATHEN!!!

I'm not going to warn you again.

[Adam Nelson]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

he's right, marijuana is not fysically addictive, and as a belgian, living next door to the netherlands, i AM an expert

Boy, all drugs are evil and will kill you. Drugs also make spelling a simple word such as 'physically' a very daunting task for a young, punk pothead.

[numbutts (On Moderation)]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

STOP PUSHING DOPE ON OUR FORUM YOU LITTLE HEATHEN!!!

I'm not going to warn you again.

Im not sure exactly how he is pushing pot with this comment. It seems to me he is just simply stating reason people give for smoking it. I think I might go on a ramble here but I want to make it as objective as possible with as little bashing as possible. I think the biggest thing about this forum is the lack of intelligence. This is not saying that there is no intelligence its just saying that there seems to be alot of talking without any knowledge of what you are talking about. To ensure I do not do the same I am going to limit what i say to things I know or things that I observe. I am going to direct this at this particular thread. Many people on both sides of this debate give nothing but opinions about it. Now I understand that from the Christian point of view its hard to use anything but since there is no fact that proves Gods existence in the universe (this not being the point). The point is people need to learn to start thinking more objectively and not with there own stubbornness and beliefs they may have. I think there is big difference between educated strong willed people and uneducated strong willed people. Uneducated people seem to use opinions to shut people down for how they think and educated individuals seem to use logic and the scienfic method to approach issues. Saying things like "you are a horrible person for smoking weed" or "its not bad to use marijuana" are not getting anywhere. These are nothing but opinions based on the information that you have already recieved about the topic. Your knowledge has limit and this makes your knowledge imperfect. All of you are right and wrong in your own ways. Nobody on here and tell you that they know exactly what the causes and effects of marijuana are otherwise they would not be on here trying to convince people. Also many things that people believe about marijuana USER or NONUSER are based on stereotypical lies. I'm not going to look to see who said it but someone said something about being a goth and smoking it. what kind of idea is this? it doesnt get anywhere and has no basis of truth yet you will go and call someone a liar and tell them they will go to hell for being a liar. Look at Micheal Phelps does he look like a goth? I have no clue what makes people believe certain things but I think its because a majority of people are not educated and do not think critically. My major point is non of you know what the truth actually is and neither do I. There are biases and forces everywhere working against you in ways you will never know and lets just say you will never get to the end because it would take longer than life itself to figure out. Everyone looks at the world in a different way and until we all decide that we are going to work together as logical and sensible individuals we will always be in a constant debate about what the truth is. Now that I have said what I wanted to say I will now reveal more about myself because I know that will be the next thing. One thing I will not reveal is my age because I have already seen plenty of examples of ageism on here which is a bigoted and uneducational way of thinking. I have always seen myself as on a quest to learn as much about the world as possible. I am very eduacted in social sciences including sociolgy, psychology, and criminology/criminal justice. I am very far right politically and I accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and personal savior when my grandfather lead me to the Lord when I was five years old and I can honestly say that moment will never leave my mind as the most vivid experience from my early childhood. I dont know if any of you ever analyze this to any extent. But all of our minds do not operate the same. I feel many christains believe they are more perfect that they are. We will all face judgement in front of God and not one of you is better than somebody else. Leave that up to God to decide because he is the all knowing being. (This is if God actually exist which we can only truely believe in based on imperfect records and information.) Ok I am done. Now go ahead and hack and me and insult me and make me feel like a horrible person because you do not think the same way. You know what I would say. Please come to me and talk to me about your views and I would actually love to hear them. I have no even come close to understand the world as much as I would like and the more people that have knowledge to share with me about it the better. If you have made it this far I really appreciate it and will be looking forward to what anyone has to say. Thanks alot!

[Nobar King]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

[numbutts (On Moderation)]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

I sure hope that was not directed at me and if so you are really kind of proving a point of mine. If it was then I sure hope you at least read all that. If it was not directed at me im sorry for any misunderstanding.