[Mr NoName]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

No it wouldn't friend. God clearly meant Americans as His standard for normal when He wrote The Bible. Do remember God writes for all time and all places.

So then if he was writeing for all time and all places, what would classify as foreign dress? If it includes all time and places then Wouldn't all forms of dress be included in that? Lets not forget that king james was english, so then does that mean when he had the bible edited that it was only applied to where he was from? So then do we all owe alllegiance to the english throne since it was his decree that allowed the bible to be edited into the james version? and how do we know god ment Americans? I don't remember reading anything at all about North America in the bible? I would have thought he would have at least mentioned something about the Native Americans in it?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

So then if he was writeing for all time and all places, what would classify as foreign dress? If it includes all time and places then Wouldn't all forms of dress be included in that? Lets not forget that king james was english, so then does that mean when he had the bible edited that it was only applied to where he was from? So then do we all owe alllegiance to the english throne since it was his decree that allowed the bible to be edited into the james version? and how do we know god ment Americans? I don't remember reading anything at all about North America in the bible? I would have thought he would have at least mentioned something about the Native Americans in it?

God loves True Christians™ and He hates everyone else. Anyone who isn't a True Christian™ American is a foreigner. He certainly isn't going to bother himself with a few hundred drunken savage redskins.

God loves America, isn't that obvious? God wants us to be richly rewarded for our faith.

2 Samuel 22:21
The LORD rewarded me according to my righteousness: according to the cleanness of my hands hath he recompensed me.

2 Chronicles 15:7
Be ye strong therefore, and let not your hands be weak: for your work shall be rewarded.

Psalm 31:23
O love the LORD, all ye his saints: for the LORD preserveth the faithful, and plentifully rewardeth the proud doer.

The United States is the single most powerful and wealthy nation in the world. What more evidence do you need?

As for King James, of course he was English. He could have been a chink for all you know. It doesn't matter at all, because God uses us as He sees fit.

Now I have a bone to pick with you, cowboy.

You claim to be a Christian, yet you can't spell or use proper capitalization on words like "God" or "Jesus", etc. You don't understand the Bible at all, and when we try and help you understand, you spit in our faces. You praise guns, but I have yet to hear you praise Jesus. You stick up for goths, queers and redskin squaws, but not for God's preferred country, America.

To be honest, I'm pretty sure that you are about as Christian as the pope of Rome. By which I mean, not at all.

I will join the other pastors in praying that Jesus change your hard,egotistical heart. I will also start issuing infraction points for showing disrespect, Capeesh?

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Well I guess that makes me wonder why it's wrong for goths to wear some of the things that they do. Is it not so much the individual items as it is the ensamble and the attitude then? or is it both? Could a person dress like a goth and still be a christian? I would have to say it would only be women that could dress like goths since it would require a man to wear some articles of womens clothing. Is it possible for a goth to dress like a christian, or is it possible to be a goth and dress like an average person? is "goth" an atttitude, an outfit, or only a combination of the two, are they goths if they aren't dressed like goths ?

Listen up gunboy:
1 Thessalonians 5:22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

Goths go out of their way to appear evil, God hates them, simple as that.

[LolChristians]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

A style of dress, or a certain musical interest doesn't have any relevance to your silly little list.
Even though they look like a**holes, it doesn't mean they are damned. Why would god care what they dress in, because you guys do?
PHAIL.

[Marshall]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Proper spelling is important. Try listening to your teachers instead of sleeping in class.

Jesus hates Goths because they are gay and because they worship Satan. Their manner of dress expresses this fact perfectly.

[Mr NoName]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

God loves True Christians™ and He hates everyone else. Anyone who isn't a True Christian™ American is a foreigner. He certainly isn't going to bother himself with a few hundred drunken savage redskins.

God loves America, isn't that obvious? God wants us to be richly rewarded for our faith.

2 Samuel 22:21
The LORD rewarded me according to my righteousness: according to the cleanness of my hands hath he recompensed me.

2 Chronicles 15:7
Be ye strong therefore, and let not your hands be weak: for your work shall be rewarded.

Psalm 31:23
O love the LORD, all ye his saints: for the LORD preserveth the faithful, and plentifully rewardeth the proud doer.

The United States is the single most powerful and wealthy nation in the world. What more evidence do you need?

As for King James, of course he was English. He could have been a chink for all you know. It doesn't matter at all, because God uses us as He sees fit.

Now I have a bone to pick with you, cowboy.

You claim to be a Christian, yet you can't spell or use proper capitalization on words like "God" or "Jesus", etc. You don't understand the Bible at all, and when we try and help you understand, you spit in our faces. You praise guns, but I have yet to hear you praise Jesus. You stick up for goths, queers and redskin squaws, but not for God's preferred country, America.

To be honest, I'm pretty sure that you are about as Christian as the pope of Rome. By which I mean, not at all.

I will join the other pastors in praying that Jesus change your hard,egotistical heart. I will also start issuing infraction points for showing disrespect, Capeesh?

Well lets see where to start.......First as to my spelling and capatilization, I'm dyslexic so spelling has always been an issue for me. Just one of those things, as far as the capitals go I have always found what is in a message to be more important then how it is punctuated. So I suppose that falls more on the "just don't really care" list for me.

Second, My standing up for America is pretty evident in my personal actions. You askk what these could be, well in a few months I head out with the next group of reservists. So if I had no loyalty for America I can tell you I wouldn't have signed up in the first place, take that as you may.

Third as for me being and egotist and recieveing "points" for being "disrespectfull" I wonder at how you could misconstrue any of what I have said in any of my posts for being disrespect? Seeing as how in the only post you have given me points for was one in which I merely directed your own statement back at you, so if what I did was lacking in respect, then through simple logic I one would have to assume you were as well now wouldn't they? O and before you go and accuse anyone of being an egotist you may want to look up the word and it's definition. I don't think yoou grasp the full meaning of it, unless this is another one of those statements you thought I should redirect to you?

As to the rest one can not deny that America has recieved more then it's fare share of good fortune. In fact the simple state of it being really the only remaining superpower(minus what will soon be china as well as it embraces capitolism more fully) points all signs to God being rather pleased with our country, however I don't know that good fortune is the only sign of Gods approval? The fact is that all across the globe country's are expierenceing quite profound periods of dramatic financial growth(with the exception of about every country in Africa) So by that definition then wouldn't Japan, China, Germany, Great Britian, and Australia all fall uneder that criteria?

Rom.15 [1] We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves.

Haveing read that you should clearly understand why I stick up for the people that I do. It is the job of the strong and able to stand up for those weeker then themselfs.

Pray for me if you wish, question my faith all you like, it doesn't change who I am or how I feel about the world around me.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Well lets see where to start.......First as to my spelling and capatilization, I'm dyslexic so spelling has always been an issue for me. Just one of those things, as far as the capitals go I have always found what is in a message to be more important then how it is punctuated. So I suppose that falls more on the "just don't really care" list for me.

I see. Do you have any idea what sins your parents committed to make God want to curse them with a baby who was crippled in the head?

Second, My standing up for America is pretty evident in my personal actions. You askk what these could be, well in a few months I head out with the next group of reservists. So if I had no loyalty for America I can tell you I wouldn't have signed up in the first place, take that as you may.

Maybe. Or maybe you're just one of those Messican'ts who signed up to get a green card and some free nachos. We'll see.

Third as for me being and egotist and recieveing "points" for being "disrespectfull" I wonder at how you could misconstrue any of what I have said in any of my posts for being disrespect? Seeing as how in the only post you have given me points for was one in which I merely directed your own statement back at you, so if what I did was lacking in respect, then through simple logic I one would have to assume you were as well now wouldn't they?

Of course we lack respect for you. We only respect fellow True Christians™, praise Jesus!

As to the rest one can not deny that America has recieved more then it's fare share of good fortune. In fact the simple state of it being really the only remaining superpower(minus what will soon be china as well as it embraces capitolism more fully) points all signs to God being rather pleased with our country, however I don't know that good fortune is the only sign of Gods approval? The fact is that all across the globe country's are expierenceing quite profound periods of dramatic financial growth(with the exception of about every country in Africa) So by that definition then wouldn't Japan, China, Germany, Great Britian, and Australia all fall uneder that criteria?

Japan, China, Germany, Great Britain and Australia are all just free riders getting fat off the trickle-down effect of America's success. It's just simple Reaganomics. No doubt Jesus will smite them with a catastrophic financial crash sooner rather than later.

Rom.15 [1] We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves.

Haveing read that you should clearly understand why I stick up for the people that I do. It is the job of the strong and able to stand up for those weeker then themselfs.

Pray for me if you wish, question my faith all you like, it doesn't change who I am or how I feel about the world around me.

If you say so...nevertheless, I will continue praying for you to accept Christ.

[Mr NoName]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Funny thing about Dyslexcia, it's genetic, it gets passed down generation after generation, neat thing about it though is when a person has dyslexcia they are more likely to have a higher IQ. They are also highly sensitive to patterns in the environment around them. Biggest negative though is they tend to be highly sensitive to flourscent light. I've been told it is part of the whole pattern thing. I can actually see the 1000 ppm (that would be pulses per minute) that they put out. Causes headaches and makes it harder to read black print on a white page. As to anything my folks may have done to have a child with dyslexcia, I would imagine it's the fact that my parents were both older when I was born that gave me more of a predisposition to being born with it?

Nope not Mevican, second generation Italian on my mom's side, dad's side goes back to pre civil war. Not sure how far back I've only traced it back to the civil war, but I'm pretty sure since my last name is German that it goes back to there somewhere.

Who ever said I hadn't accepted Christ?

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Funny thing about Dyslexcia, it's genetic, it gets passed down generation after generation, neat thing about it though is when a person has dyslexcia they are more likely to have a higher IQ. They are also highly sensitive to patterns in the environment around them. Biggest negative though is they tend to be highly sensitive to flourscent light. I've been told it is part of the whole pattern thing. I can actually see the 1000 ppm (that would be pulses per minute) that they put out. Causes headaches and makes it harder to read black print on a white page. As to anything my folks may have done to have a child with dyslexcia, I would imagine it's the fact that my parents were both older when I was born that gave me more of a predisposition to being born with it?

Sounds a lot of Asperger's Sydrome. If you're like other "Aspie" retards, you're most likely a sociopathic nerd that picks other people's noses and wants to find some way to have sex with locomotives...

Am I getting warmer here?

[Mr NoName]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Nope not a sociopath, or a nerd.....haven't seen a nerdy construction worker before. It's essentially a misscommunication between the mind and the eye. I'm seeing a d but my mind interprets it as a b. Only in my case it can get as bad as seeing entire words or sentences in reverse. Although at this point in my life I pretty much just misspell or swap word placement. Gets a little old affter a while, especially when my major was literature! What a headache.

That being said does a goths outfit really identify them as evil? I mean black has long been associated with the clergy of all Christ affiliated mideast centered faiths. Unless your in Asia then it's white for everything, but then we aren't talking about there are we? I wonder if Asian goths wear all white with black face makeup? kinda a photo negative mime thing? So then does black signify evil is that what is being said?

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

It's essentially a misscommunication between the mind and the eye. I'm seeing a d but my mind interprets it as a b.

So, to cut a long story short: You're not right in the head.
Did you ride the shortbus when you went to school too?

[Spike.]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

If Your Child is a Gothic, Reform Through the Lord!

Listed below are some warning signs to indicate if your child may
have gone astray from the Lord. Gothic (or goth) is a very obscure
and often dangerous culture that young teenagers are prone to
participating in. The gothic culture leads young, susceptible minds
into an imagined world of evil, darkness, and violence. Please seek
immediate attention through counselling, prayer, and parental
guidance to rid your child of Satan's temptations if five or more of the
following are applicable to your child:

1-Frequently wears black clothing.OR HE JUST LIKES BLACK.
2-Wears band and/or rock t-shirts.DOES CHRIST ROCK COUNT?YES YES IT DOES.
3-Wears excessive black eye makeup, lipstick or nailpolish.WHY?
4-Wears any odd, silver jewelry or symbols. Some of these include:SILVER,WHY SILVER WHY NOT GOLD,OR ALUMINUM?
reversed crosses, pentagrams, pentacles, ankhs or various other
Satanic worshipping symbols.
5-Shows an interest in piercings or tattoos.UMM...YOUR DUMB YOU KNOW THAT RIGHT?
6-Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of music.DESCRIBE PLZ.
(Marilyn Manson claims to be the anti-Christ, and publicly speaks against
the Lord. Please discard any such albums IMMEDIATELY.)SOURSES PLEASE.
7-Associates with other people that dress, act or speak
eccentrically.YOU MEAN PEOPLE WHO SPEAK OUT AGAINST SUCH LUDICRIS IDEAS OF god AND HAVE A MIND OF THIER OWN.HOW CLICHE.
8-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such as: the
Bible, prayer, church or sports.LULZ.ONLY ONE INTREST ME AND THATS PAINTBALL.
9-Shows an increasing interest in death, vampires, magic, the occult,
witchcraft or anything else that involves Satan.DEATH ISNT SATAN,SAYING THAT YOUR SAYING EVERYONE WORSHIPS SATAN EVEN YOU BECAUSE YOU WILL DIE ONE DAY.
10-Takes drugs.PROBLY TO ESCAPE THE REALITY THAT YOU CALL A HOME,YOUR A BAD PARENT.
11-Drinks alcohol.SEE ABOVE,Im GOING TO NEED A SHOT AFTER THIS ACTULLY.
12-Is suicidal and/or depressed.EVERYONE GETS DEPRESSED AND SUICIDAL IS NOT A SIGN OF GOTH.
13-Cuts, burns or partakes in any other method of self-mutilation.
(This is a that uses pain to detract from the light of God
and His love. Please seek immediate attention for this at your local
mental health center.)SOURCES,AND YEA GET HELP BUT NOT FOR THE REASON YOU SAID.
14-Complains of boredom.IM BORED,DOES THAT MAKE ME A GOTH,NO IT DOES NOT.IT MEANS IM BORED WHAT CAN I DO TO ALIVIEATE MYSELF FROM THE BORDEM.
15-Sleeps too excessively or too little.LOL INSOMNIA.
16-Is excessively awake during the night.LOL BORDOM.
17-Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. (This pertains to
vampires promoting the idea that His light is of no use.)OR IS ALBINO,SUNLIGHT HURTS THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE SENSITVE TO LIGHT DUE TO LACK OF PIGMENT.
18-Demands an unusual amount of privacy.LOL TO HIDE THE WEED AND WHISKEY.
19-Spends large amounts of time alone.LOL TO DRINK,SMOKE,AND MASTURBATE.
20-Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your child
may speak to evil sprits through meditation.)UMM..NO AND UH SOURCES PLEASE.
21-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an
adult.LOL YOU ARE A IDIOT.TIME WITH YOU MUST SEEM LIKE HELL.
22-Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders
are but a few examples of this.THOUGHT YOU PEOPLE DIDNT LIKE KTTYLIKR PRIEST?LOL PARODOX.
23-Misbehaves at school.THATS NOT THE DEVIL,ITS THE WHISKEY.
24-Misbehaves at home.ITS BECAUSE YOU FOLLOW HIM AROUND EVERY SECOND OF EVERY DAY AND GIVE HIM NO PRIVACY,ID KILL YOU WITH A BALLPEEN HAMMER IS YOU DID THAT TO ME.
25-Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of
this.UH I THINK THE NAME IS COUNT CHOCULA,NOT DRACULA.AND SINCE WHEN ARE FOODS BAD.
26-Drinks blood or expresses an interest in drinking blood. (Vampires
believe this is how to attain Satan. This act is very dangerous and
should be stopped immediately.)YES DO ACT,BECAUSE HE COULD GET HEP.C.
27-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media sources.UMMM....ALL TV AND RADIO AND ANY OTHER GOVERMENT CONTROLLED THING IS CORRUPTED.WOW NONE OF YOU HAVE CABLE,HOW ARE YOU NOT BORED!
(Ask your local church for proper programs that your child may watch.)LOL VEGGIE TALES.
28-Plays videos games that contains violence or are of a role-playing
nature.EVERY VIDIO GAME IS OF ROLE PLAYING NATURE.
29-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the
computer.LOL TO MASTURBATE TO THE GEY SHOWS.LULZ.WAIT HOW CAN HE WHEN YOU FOLLOW HIM AROUND.AND DONT YOU MAKE TIME FOR TEH INTERWEBS TO GET ON HERE.LOL OXYMORON.
30-Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music.THATS CALLED METAL.IM A FAN.IM NOT GOTH.*POUNDS HEAD TO METTALLICA**GETS DIZZY AND FALLS DOWN GOING OW OW OW OW*
31-Dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner.LULZ MICHAL JACKSON STYLE.
32-Expresses an interest in sex.UMMMM EVERYONE DOES THAT.ITS CALLED NATURE OR DO YOU NOT BELIVE IN THAT AS WELL.
33-Masturbates.14 TIMES TODAY FOR ME THANK YOU VERY MUCH,IN FACKT IM GOING TO DO IT RIGHT NOW.*IM LONELY*
34-Is homosexual and/or bisexual.LULZ YOUR KID IS TEH GEH.
35-Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism,
Scientology, Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca, Hinduism and Buddhism.UMMM SOURCES PLOXOR.
36-Wears pins, stickers or anything else that contains these various
phrases: "I'm so gothic, I'm dead", "woe is me", "I'm a goth".NEVER SEEN SUCH A PIN,EVER,IN THE EXISTANCE OF EVER.
37-Claims to be a goth.NO SHIT SHIRLOCK.

If five or more of these apply to your child, please intervene
immediately. The gothic culture is dangerous and Satan thrives within it.
If any of these problems persist, enlist your child into your local mental
health center.

I THINK ALL OF THEM APPLY TO EVERYONE.EVER.IN THE HISTORY OF EVER.

[Mr NoName]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

You got part of that right, I am definately not right in the head. Makes life more intresting I must say, but no I never rode the short buss. I always wondered why they made short busses? One would think it would be more cost effective to simply use one of the many full size ones they have sitting in the yard half the time?

As to my question, what signifies a goths outfit as being "evil" ?

[bluefire]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

You WHAT! There is a Count Dracula Cereal!
AHahahahahahahahahahahaha! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhaha... hahaha... ha... hehe... he... Newho... Goth is just a stereotype. Therefore you'd have to be live up to all of those points to be a true goth. Anyone who doesn't fulfil them all if not more is only a 'wannabe' or else something completely different. Anyone can portray five of these points if you look hard enough. Although the whole claiming to be a goth is a bit of a dead cert

[Zephaniah]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

If you thought that post was worthwhile, you were sadly mistaken. Get saved or shut up. "Goth" isn't a stereotype, it's a cancer eating at the heart of right thinking society and turning our youth into suicidal wiccan Satanist liberals. Get your facts right, please.