[Sister Rebecca]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Oh, please. Back up your stupid and baseless arguments with SCRIPTURE, Midnight Revelation.
Oh? You can't you say? Hmmm. Guess what, sweetie. WE CAN!! We CAN back up our side of the story with ACTUAL scripture. We can PROVE that God wants us to hate, and to judge, and not to allow the unsaved, the crippled, the different. If you cannot quote chapter and verse, we do not even waste our time. Go play in the sandbox child, and leave the theology to the grownups.

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

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Oh poor child, you're one of those retardeds I've heard about! It's obvious with your stunted grasp of the American language that you are incapable of reading the Bible and grasping what is says, but let me assure you that it does not say that God's love is unconditional. If it were, He wouldn't call sodomites like you "abominations", and He wouldn't have created the eternal, fiery pits of Hell to toss unrepentant sinners in!
In fact, the Bible makes it very clear that God's love is very much conditional, but let me tell you this... Once you meet those conditions, it's GLORIOUS!

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

I'm honestly not sure what I think of this site.

And we honestly don't care. It says Unsaved Unwelcome, as you noticed, and we mean it. If you are not here already filled with a deep love of Christ, you'd better be here desperately wanting to be filled with something Holy, or we just don't have time for you.

I'm not proud to say that I really don't think highly of it at all.

Pride is a sin, so to humbly say you don't like us is a start, in a way.

I barely skimmed through what was here.

And I barely skimmed one of the most error-riddled posts I've seen in a long time. If you want someone to read your rather disjointed, rambling whining, take the time to make it readable.

And for a start, it's spelled known, not knowen. You sound like a some kind of foreigner. Which Godless non-American country are you from?

Get yourself a King James 1611 Version of the Bible (KJV1611), read it, learn to write American English, then come back and call us names!

[CrystalMeth98]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Okay, I've read your little list here, and as an aspiring attorney, I think I'll point out the contradictions in your list.

4. "Wears any odd, silver jewelry or symbols. Some of these include:
reversed crosses, pentagrams, pentacles, ankhs or various other
Satanic worshipping symbols." The ONLY thing "Satanic" in that list was the reverse cross. Pentagrams and pentacles are symbols of Wiccans, and despite what you extremists say Wiccans are NOT I repeat NOT Devil worshipers! And The Ankh is the Egyptian symbol for Life. How is LIFE satanic?

5."Shows an interest in piercings or tattoos."
I'm pretty sure most teenagers express interest in these sort of things. My Sister has piercings is she Satanic? No. She is a very caring, very loving young woman with a job and she respects her lover and his family. As well as her own.

6."Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of music. You mean like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duST2l6c0sQ&NR=1 <That?
(Marilyn Manson claims to be the anti-Christ, and publicly speaks against
the Lord. Please discard any such albums IMMEDIATELY.)"
WHEN has Marilyn Manson said ANYTHING about him being the Anti-Christ? WHEN?! Give me proof to back up this claim! If you can't than it's baseless conjuncture.

10."Takes drugs." That's 99% of ALL TEENS. Not just Goths!

11."Drinks alcohol." Same as above.

14. "Complains of boredom." Oh Gee-Golly-Wizz! I guess the majority of the population, including adults are "Goths" because they complain of boredom.

15. "Sleeps too excessively or too little." Again, MOST TEENS DO THIS! NOT.JUST.GOTHS!!!

16. "Is excessively awake during the night." We did this every year during my TEEN Youth Group. It was APPROVED by the Pastors that watched over us. They even arranged so that we rent out an ice rink at 3 in the morning. And stay up as long as we could and sing random songs.

17. "Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. (This pertains to
vampires promoting the idea that His light is of no use.)" Oh-haw-haw-haw! I guess that means Albinos, Irish-Americans and people who can get sick in the sunlight are "Goths" Now,too?

18. "Demands an unusual amount of privacy." That's a normal teenager thing to do. By "Normal" I mean Not brainwashed by extremists like you.

19. "Spends large amounts of time alone." Same as above

20."Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your child
may speak to evil sprits through meditation.)" What?! WHAT?! Speak to-NO! That's not what they do! Some normal people like it to be quiet so they can do homework, or, what's that word I dunno THINK INDEPENDENTLY!?

21."Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an
adult." Cause you know, if your child doesn't want parents dragging them down or embarrassing them they're "Goths" This applied to ALL Social Groups.

22. "Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders
are but a few examples of this.

23.Misbehaves at school.

24.Misbehaves at home." Most Teens do all the above.

25."Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of
this." For one, it's Count CHOCULA and for two, how is THAT Gothic? "Oh Noes! It has a Cartoon Vampire on it, and colorful marshmallow bats! BURN IT" Fuck-wad.

26. "Drinks blood or expresses an interest in drinking blood. (Vampires
believe this is how to attain Satan. This act is very dangerous and
should be stopped immediately.)" Vampires sucked blood to sustain their lifeforce. It had NOTHING to do with Satan

27. "Watches cable television or any other corrupted media sources.
(Ask your local church for proper programs that your child may watch.)" I guess every teenager, ever toddler hell, every BABY is gothic now because they wanna watch age appropriate stuff like Thomas the Tank Engine, Sesame Street, Blue's Clues ect. insted of the religious crap you want to stuff down their throats, huh?

28. "Plays videos games that contains violence or are of a role-playing
nature." Put down you're E-Rated Sonic the Hedge hog and Mario games kids! Those are RPGS!

29. "Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the
computer." Everyteen does this. Not just Goths. Just look at Myspace and Facebook, those sites are FLOODED with Duhduhduhduh! Preps, Jocks, and "proper" teens! .0.

31. "Dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner." EVERY TEEN does it. ALL of us NORMAL TEENS!

32. "Expresses an interest in sex." Bobby! Don't respond to the natural need to reproduce the species! It's EEEVVIILLLLLL!!!

33. "Masturbates." Once again, Natural urge. It comes with puberty

34."Is homosexual and/or bisexual." How does that classify you as a goth? Whoops! I forgot, your kind is the kind that "Thanks god for dead Soldiers" and thinks that "God Hates Fags!"

35. "Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism,
Scientology, Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca, Hinduism and Buddhism." wait-wait-wait-wait. Hinduism? Buddhism?! Those, good sir, are two of THE MOST PEACEFUL RELIGIONS ON THIS EARTH!They're about inner peace and peace with your fellow man! How are those "Dangerous Cults" Because they're not what YOU Believe?! What YOU think is right?! Get over yourselves!

36. "Wears pins, stickers or anything else that contains these various
phrases: "I'm so gothic, I'm dead", "woe is me", "I'm a goth"." Yeeaah. You'd never see slogans like that, EVER. Not even in frikkin' Happy Bunny =.=

37. "Claims to be a goth." Not many teens would say they're Gothic out loud.

Well congratulations, good sir! You have just described most young adults in the 15-19 age group. I guess all teens that aren't Your Kind need to seek mental help, huh? One more thing: My Christian Chrurch group, yeah,in stead of stoning us to death, or not allowing us into the building The Pastors at my Church were very accepting of the "Goths" you've described for us. We played sports, listened to rock music and rap, and even had the occasional stay up late party. I was taught to respect everyone, despite their religion and I was taught the TRUE message of God. Y'Know the "Respect thy fellow man" God.
Not tyrant God you Anti-Christian hating FUCKS worship.

Good day, Ladies and Gentleman!

[Jean Poole]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

"Aspiring attorney"? Are you a Feminazi?

As for your little list, not one of my 20 children do any of those things. If they did, my husband would beat them with his Spanking Stick within 3 seconds! There will be no witches or Gothtards in my family. The only blood sacrifices they will think about is JESUS' SACRIFICE!

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

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What kind of weirdo-queero, hippygoth, tree-humping name is CrystalLotus98?

And you say you want to be a lawyer?

Friend, you may want to think of a career change. Maybe door-to-door incense sales is more your line, freak!

[CrystalMeth98]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Feminazi? Me? Psh. You just know that if a Prosecutor got on your case your "oh, so holy" scriptures wouldn't be able to save you.

Oh, and Aaron, wonderful line of "insults" you having going there. "Freak?" yeah The little boy who lives across the street from me can do better. As for my name, it's better than the oh-so-original think ya'll have going by having your real name as your screen name. As for the meaning "Crystal" as we know is a precious gem valued for it's beauty and it's representation of natural purity. as for Lotus it is derived from N. nucifera Also known as "Sacred Lotus" the national flower of India, and one of my favorites. I also love how you full grown men and woman reported my post for pointing out the rather hilarious flaws in your so-called "How to tell if you child is Gothic" list.

By the way, none of you have answered my questions or given me proof. You took the 3-year-olds way out and threw pathetic excuses for insults at me.

[iamwus]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Wow inst this a christian forum. All i see here are racists and unkind people who do not act like they have been "saved" from the comments in this thread. I'm sure that your god does not want you all going out and stoning people which would technically be against one of the ten commandments and a couple other bible quotes "do not judge yest ye be judged" and the the best pertaining to this disscussion "ye that has not sined cast the first stone".

[CrystalMeth98]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Wow inst this a christian forum. All i see here are racists and unkind people who do not act like they have been "saved" from the comments in this thread. I'm sure that your god does not want you all going out and stoning people which would technically be against one of the ten commandments and a couple other bible quotes "do not judge yest ye be judged" and the the best pertaining to this disscussion "ye that has not sined cast the first stone".

Thank You! That's what I was taught in Church. But as you can see, unless we agree to everything they believe we're "Retards" "Freaks" or in my case a "Femnazi"

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

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crys·tal /ˈkrɪstl/[kris-tl]-taled, -tal·ing or –noun

1.a clear, transparent mineral or glass resembling ice.

2.the transparent form of crystallized quartz.

3.Chemistry, Mineralogy. a solid body having a characteristic internal
structure and enclosed by symmetrically arranged plane surfaces, intersecting at definite and characteristic angles.
4.anything made of or resembling such a substance.

5.a single grain or mass of a crystalline substance.

6.glass of fine quality and a high degree of brilliance.

7.articles, esp. glassware for the table and ornamental objects, made of such a glass.

8.the glass or plastic cover over the face of a watch.

9.Radio. a.the piece of germanium, silicon, galena, or the like forming the essential part of a crystal detector. b.the crystal detector itself.

10.Electronics. a quartz crystal ground in the shape of a rectangular parallelepiped, which vibrates strongly at one frequency when electric voltages of that frequency are placed across opposite sides: used to control the frequency of an oscillator (crystal oscillator),as of a radio transmitter.


11.Slang. any stimulant drug in powder form, as methamphetamine or PCP.



I think we all know what you mean, druggy! You're probably so high right now your head is spinning!

[iamwus]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Wow inst this a christian forum. All i see here are racists and unkind people who do not act like they have been "saved" from the comments in this thread. I'm sure that your god does not want you all going out and stoning people which would technically be against one of the ten commandments and a couple other bible quotes "do not judge yest ye be judged" and the the best pertaining to this disscussion "ye that has not sined cast the first stone".

[CrystalMeth98]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

crys·tal /ˈkrɪstl/[kris-tl]-taled, -tal·ing or –noun

1.a clear, transparent mineral or glass resembling ice.

2.the transparent form of crystallized quartz.

3.Chemistry, Mineralogy. a solid body having a characteristic internal
structure and enclosed by symmetrically arranged plane surfaces, intersecting at definite and characteristic angles.
4.anything made of or resembling such a substance.

5.a single grain or mass of a crystalline substance.

6.glass of fine quality and a high degree of brilliance.

7.articles, esp. glassware for the table and ornamental objects, made of such a glass.

8.the glass or plastic cover over the face of a watch.

9.Radio. a.the piece of germanium, silicon, galena, or the like forming the essential part of a crystal detector. b.the crystal detector itself.

10.Electronics. a quartz crystal ground in the shape of a rectangular parallelepiped, which vibrates strongly at one frequency when electric voltages of that frequency are placed across opposite sides: used to control the frequency of an oscillator (crystal oscillator),as of a radio transmitter.


11.Slang. any stimulant drug in powder form, as methamphetamine or PCP.



I think we all know what you mean, druggy! You're probably so high right now your head is spinning!

Tsk. Tsk. Tsk. I ask for legitimate proof and answers to my questions, and you throw you're baseless claims at me. If this was a court of Law, actions like this would not be tolerated. Please act like a mature adult and give me proof and answers. And I just LOVE how you decided to completely skip the second part of my user name. Oh, and I said Crystal was based of it's symbolism and it's beauty. Not definition.

[iamwus]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Thank You! That's what I was taught in Church. But as you can see, unless we agree to everything they believe we're "Retards" "Freaks" or in my case a "Femnazi"

wooooooooooooooooooooo not on here 15 mins and i already got an infraction and apparently im a wus and an idiot now! lolololololololollloooooolololoololololol! wow christian values at there best name calling gay bashing and really being ignorant of what christian values really are! i love this country!!!!

[CrystalMeth98]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

wooooooooooooooooooooo not on here 15 mins and i already got an infraction and apparently im a wus and an idiot now! lolololololololollloooooolololoololololol! wow christian values at there best name calling gay bashing and really being ignorant of what christian values really are! i love this country!!!!

I know, right! Our Country is Soooo tolerant! and look at our Titles "Unsaved Trash" well, I guess we should keep out good-I mean "Wrong" Morals and go to the fiery pit of despair *eye roll*

[iamwus]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

I know, right! Our Country is Soooo tolerant! and look at our Titles "Unsaved Trash" well, I guess we should keep out good-I mean "Wrong" Morals and go to the fiery pit of despair *eye roll*

And they wonder why there churches see less and less people gathering for services....