[Kreiger]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Who Will Jesus Damn?

Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers Pastor Ezekiel (THE TRUTH BITCH)

[Raven.]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

This is a Christian forum. Why are you two demons here? What part of UNSAVED NOT WELCOME don't you understand?

off-topic question, but why am i a demon? I came here hoping people such as yourself could to explain to me how parts of this list make people a goth and clarify what doesn't make sense to me. I believe that this is an acceptable position and post, and i only wished to be inspired to see how it is.

On-topic, i still wish to know why the numbers besides the numbers i had previously mentioned are either more or less important and what makes those specific for telling how your child is a godless goth, or more in this scenario, a goth in general. I would be glad if you yourself pastor Ezekiel could say something on this topic.

Raven

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

off-topic question, but why am i a demon? I came here hoping people such as yourself could to explain to me how parts of this list make people a goth and clarify what doesn't make sense to me. I believe that this is an acceptable position and post, and i only wished to be inspired to see how it is.

On-topic, i still wish to know why the numbers besides the numbers i had previously mentioned are either more or less important and what makes those specific for telling how your child is a godless goth, or more in this scenario, a goth in general. I would be glad if you yourself pastor Ezekiel could say something on this topic.

Raven

Go back and read this thread from the first post. All of your questions have been answered.

I am not here to spoonfeed you.

[Raven.]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Go back and read this thread from the first post. All of your questions have been answered.

I am not here to spoonfeed you.

Well, if they were answered why would i still be in search of answers. The only answers you get on the first post is how to tell if your child is a godless goth, also anyone else, and it explains what to do but it does not go into reasoning about why these are signs. Some do and some are obvious such as if they are suicidal or they drink blood there is obviously a problem but other reasons like complaining of boredom, i want to know how this determines one to be a goth.

Also, i am still curious why i am considered a demon

Raven

[James Dewitt]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Raven, Goths generally do not follow the teachings of Jesus. The worship the dark side( Satan), the have adorned themselves with piercings and tattoos. The boys dress as girls and the girls dress as men. All are against the word of God. Do you have a Bible, if so look them up and read.

In case you have not noticed this is a Christian Forum owned and operated by a Christian Church, Jesus is all ways on topic! When I asked you why you hated Jesus, it was due to the fact that you have never glorified His name. Not one time have you said that you love Jesus.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Raven, Goths generally do not follow the teachings of Jesus. The worship the dark side( Satan), the have adorned themselves with piercings and tattoos. The boys dress as girls and the girls dress as men. All are against the word of God. Do you have a Bible, if so look them up and read.

In case you have not noticed this is a Christian Forum owned and operated by a Christian Church, Jesus is all ways on topic! When I asked you why you hated Jesus, it was due to the fact that you have never glorified His name. Not one time have you said that you love Jesus.

Don't waste your breath on her, Brother James. She's too drug-addled to comprehend what we're saying. I have posted links and offered her Christian advice, but she just doesn't get it.

She can't understand because her father is satan.

John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 8:45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

[Raven.]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Raven, Goths generally do not follow the teachings of Jesus. The worship the dark side( Satan), the have adorned themselves with piercings and tattoos. The boys dress as girls and the girls dress as men. All are against the word of God. Do you have a Bible, if so look them up and read.

In case you have not noticed this is a Christian Forum owned and operated by a Christian Church, Jesus is all ways on topic! When I asked you why you hated Jesus, it was due to the fact that you have never glorified His name. Not one time have you said that you love Jesus.

mmm, its all a long story why i don't say many things.

thank you though, for your response, yet i guess my views very. There are few people who intreage me in this world, they have no religion you would say, but yet they have faith in something that does not reside in heaven or hell. I find this quality, beyond amazing, for it resides on the true heart and this single link of faith is almost unbreakable. This faith is connected to just being good without the need of religious following. one of my friends is Gothic in style, yet is this way as well...

Its hard to say that ones style defines who they are, but more what they wish to look. designs today sometimes don't have a true connection to the mentality of another. When it comes down to psychology and other approaches if one is Gothic under a few of your descriptions yes they are probably not the greatest (Or perhaps courageously crazy) but i just don't see if under the will of God why he would allow them to remain on earth if they were hated by him (let alone, why they can reside to be happy) as well as why would they burn in hell if they are demons, wouldn't they just rise to continue another day?. it would seem illogical for such and i would precieve the creator of earth to be extreamly bright.

Some times, i am curious what will become of us under these confusions. yet if God were to prove himself, it would destroy the need for belief, yet where does one go right where there are too many so called rights?

Raven

[Raven.]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Don't waste your breath on her, Brother James. She's too drug-addled to comprehend what we're saying. I have posted links and offered her Christian advice, but she just doesn't get it.

She can't understand because her father is satan.

mm, then why is it i am actually a well respected person in many society's, no less within the states? this would contradict a few theory's as for i had devoted time in my life to the church.

and if i was here to come after you, why would i leave the website standing? if i was against you why would i seek to speak with you and listen to your words when all you have done is denied to actually answer any of my questions.

I fear we oppose sides Pastor Ezekiel, i was finding James Dewitt a real voice from this community who was actually speaking his beliefs and through his logic i can say i respect his words for he has shown himself to be much more of a Christian. why should i believe in a faith where its followers completely mauled me when i come in respectively. i do admit, i did find James Dewitt comment at first insulting but his explanation helped me understand

thats what it was here for, i believe James Dewitt was the only one to provide me with such quick direction

thank you

Raven

[James Dewitt]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Raven you miss guided slut young lady, God gave each and every one of us free will, Its up to us to do what is right. He gave all of the the knowledge of right from wrong. Jesus came to us to show the path to eternal Salvation™, it is up to you to follow the path to Heaven or Hell. Now why do you hate Jesus?

[Raven.]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Raven you miss guided slut young lady, God gave each and every one of us free will, Its up to us to do what is right. He gave all of the the knowledge of right from wrong. Jesus came to us to show the path to eternal Salvation™, it is up to you to follow the path to Heaven or Hell. Now why do you hate Jesus?

Miss guided, perhaps, everyone always has someone who thinks they are miss guided. Yes, i perfectly agree, again why i find you much more wise then Pasture Ezekiel as for you are much more direct.

Now i do not hate Jesus, in fact, i believe that if my hearts faith drove me to believe in him i would but if God really does exists then faith has lead me to why i am here in the first place.

But as i was saying, i do not hate him, i would love him for if my faith lead me to believe the books then i would find him my savor...yet i don't think that. so i believe that for which is true i will deeply do so yet under my current situations it will only be left in my heart for i dare not resent it nor accept it. faith for me has landed me to do much good though, i can't complain, with or without the fact it might of been his guidance

Thats only my thoughts

Raven

[James Dewitt]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Miss guided, perhaps, everyone always has someone who thinks they are miss guided. Yes, i perfectly agree, again why i find you much more wise then Pasture Ezekiel as for you are much more direct.

Now i do not hate Jesus, in fact, i believe that if my hearts faith drove me to believe in him i would but if God really does exists then faith has lead me to why i am here in the first place.

But as i was saying, i do not hate him, i would love him for if my faith lead me to believe the books then i would find him my savor...yet i don't think that. so i believe that for which is true i will deeply do so yet under my current situations it will only be left in my heart for i dare not resent it nor accept it. faith for me has landed me to do much good though, i can't complain, with or without the fact it might of been his guidance

Thats

only my thoughts

Raven

Woman enter politics, you never answered the real question , just blah -blah. Do you believe in God? Do you Love Jesus? If not why are you here? Jesus has directed you to us for a reason, He loves you and wants you to love Him. Get a KJV1611 Bible, read it, find a Pastor and get right with Jesus, He is waiting!

[Raven.]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Woman enter politics, you never answered the real question , just blah -blah. Do you believe in God? Do you Love Jesus? If not why are you here? Jesus has directed you to us for a reason, He loves you and wants you to love Him. Get a KJV1611 Bible, read it, find a Pastor and get right with Jesus, He is waiting!

Yea i read through the bible and found it more of a fun philosophical challange. some of my views come from the bible itself and infact most of them follow it, also asia wouldn't be a great place for that idea would it be lol. (not out of choice am i here, stuck more or less) and if he loves him then i believe the faith i share goes to him.

It is alot of blah blah because the answer is i do not hate him, yet all the same i do not love him. i don't know, because nothing has jumped at me to truly guide me to say i believe.

Why i am here is a great question, and the answer is who knows. curiosity guided me to ask my first question, why i am still curious depends on how this goes.

Raven

[James Dewitt]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Raven when it comes to Jesus there is no in between. You are a believer or not. You Love him or you do not. Jesus wants you to take a stand and not be a fence sitter. So what is it going to be, will you be on the side of Jesus or Satan?

[Raven.]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

That would also be like saying there is only an upper and lower economical in the united states while in fact their is also a middle class.

Raven

[Nobar King]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

No, it wouldn't. That's a terrible analogy, mostly because it's wrong.