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Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

You didn't read anything else I wrote did you? First of all, I am far from a child. Second of all, Goths do neither. Please RESEARCH the Goth scene, and come up with a logical argument or insult that doesn't sound like it came out of the mouth of a 12 year old child.

Dear ladyofravensrock,
I apologize for the way that some of the people who are calling themselves Christians are treating you and saying such offensive and ridiculous things.

You shouldn't listen to people saying ridiculous things fi you know it isn't true. Just ignore them, because their only desire is to get a rise out of you - they want to make you angry. They are sinning by doing this, so just ignore them.

Something you should know, is that Jesus hung out with the worse sinners of the day. Jesus wants EVERYONE to be saved. Yes, Jesus also wants sinners to turn from their sins, but Jesus will help you with that. What's really important is that Jesus loves everyone and only wants people to turn from their sins to follow him. There is no person in the world that can't be saved. I hope this gives you some hope.

[fatuglywhoreofravensrock]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Yes. So why do you goth people always murder children and rape your parents instead?

Jesus hates hypocrites.

First of all, I have far from murdered a child.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

If you weren't aware, sodomy is another name for homosexuality; so you can't say "also" when it's already listed. God condemns homosexuality. we already know this.

This is very sad, to see such extremists who, instead of trying to reach the world as Jesus wanted us to, you instead say ridiculous things calling everyone a homosexual, like it's some sort of game.

I pray you people wake up and realize what you're doing.

Additionally, I did not quote from NKJ version. Nonetheless, such arguments are considered Legalism, and take your eyes off the real Truth.

It's really sad to see how far off the edge so many people who are calling themselves "Christians" are going. It's really giving Christianity a bad name. I just pray that people who are unsaved never actually come to this forum, because this is a completely terrible representation of Christianity. This is not how Jesus wanted Christians to act.

You obviously know nothing about the very sodomy that you perpetrate. Sodomy means unnatural sex. There are many kinds of unnatural sex, all of them homosexual in nature. So while you reached a correct conclusion in this instance, you did the math wrong.

Oral or anal sex between a man and a woman is sodomy, because it is not the way God intended for His creation to have sex. Since it does not result in the conception of Christian Soldiers, it is homosexual as well.

Also, the New King James is not the only paraphrasing of the King James. Most newer translations are paraphrases of the King James. None of them are from the Textus Receptus.

Let me tell you what is giving Christianity a bad name: it's liars and God deniers like you who twist scripture to make it appear contradictory. Then you attack Christ's Elect for heeding it.

No matter how calloused your rectum is by the time you die of AIDS, it will not prepare you for Satan's barbed, serrated, and intumescent tallywacker, nor the sizzling, six hundred degree demon semen that it will inject into your most sensitive areas.

Enjoy Hell.

[fatuglywhoreofravensrock]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Dear ladyofravensrock,
I apologize for the way that some of the people who are calling themselves Christians are treating you and saying such offensive and ridiculous things.

You shouldn't listen to people saying ridiculous things fi you know it isn't true. Just ignore them, because their only desire is to get a rise out of you - they want to make you angry. They are sinning by doing this, so just ignore them.

Something you should know, is that Jesus hung out with the worse sinners of the day. Jesus wants EVERYONE to be saved. Yes, Jesus also wants sinners to turn from their sins, but Jesus will help you with that. What's really important is that Jesus loves everyone and only wants people to turn from their sins to follow him. There is no person in the world that can't be saved. I hope this gives you some hope.

That may be THEIR only desire, but it is not the only RESULT. There are many people, especially people younger than I, who believe what ignorant people like this say. They are part of the reason there is so much misconception about the Goth scene. As I said, people like this are part of the reason atrocities like the Sophie Lancaster murder, and other hate crimes against Goths, happen. Sites like this PROMOTE that, even if it is unintentionally. They fill children's heads with false information and hate, and violence often comes of it. The violence does not always escalate into murder, but it OFTEN escalates into more than just rudeness. Many Goths are attacked for no other reason than being themselves and people believing there is something wrong with being Goth and that their god would applaud their behavior. You CANNOT ignore something if you want change to happen.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

First of all, I have far from murdered a child.

Every time you stick a coat hanger in your semen coated uterus, you murder an unborn child. And every time you deny it, you spit in Christ's holy face.

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Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Yes. So why do you goth people always murder children and rape your parents instead?

Jesus hates hypocrites.

Jesus hates No One.
Jesus hates hypocrisy, but Jesus does not hate any person.

First of all, I have far from murdered a child.

Don't let yourself be bothered with hateful and untrue stereotypes. We know you didn't murder any children. Anyone who says things like that is stirring up strife, which is a sin..

2 Timothy 2:23-25
Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth,

Proverbs 16:28
A dishonest man spreads strife, and a whisperer separates close friends

James 3:14-16
But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your hearts, do not boast and be false to the truth. This is not the wisdom that comes down from above, but is earthly, unspiritual, demonic. For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there will be disorder and every vile practice.

Galatians 5:19-21
Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Proverbs 10:12
Hatred stirs up strife, but love covers all offenses.

Proverbs 29:22
A man of wrath stirs up strife, and one given to anger causes much transgression.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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=Many Goths are attacked for no other reason than being themselves =

It is your lifestyle choice to be yourself instead of obeying Jesus. Every time you don the regalia of evil, you choose to be bullied.

[fatuglywhoreofravensrock]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

You obviously know nothing about the very sodomy that you perpetrate. Sodomy means unnatural sex. There are many kinds of unnatural sex, all of them homosexual in nature. So while you reached a correct conclusion in this instance, you did the math wrong.

Oral or anal sex between a man and a woman is sodomy, because it is not the way God intended for His creation to have sex. Since it does not result in the conception of Christian Soldiers, it is homosexual as well.

Also, the New King James is not the only paraphrasing of the King James. Most newer translations are paraphrases of the King James. None of them are from the Textus Receptus.

Let me tell you what is giving Christianity a bad name: it's liars and God deniers like you who twist scripture to make it appear contradictory. Then you attack Christ's Elect for heeding it.

No matter how calloused your rectum is by the time you die of AIDS, it will not prepare you for Satan's barbed, serrated, and intumescent tallywacker, nor the sizzling, six hundred degree demon semen that it will inject into your most sensitive areas.

Enjoy Hell.

Actually, the church itself gives Christianity a bad name. It was the church who once taught that people were reincarnated so many times before they could go to heaven. They stopped teaching this only because people decided they did not need to listen to the church because they would have another chance. The church also taught that sex was only for procreation, and not to be enjoyed even within the bounds of marriage. While also claiming that a woman who became pregnant after rape sinned by enjoying it because a woman can only conceive if she has an orgasm. So who is contradictory now?

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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Jesus hates No One.
Jesus hates hypocrisy, but Jesus does not hate any person.

Jesus is God. Below is a brief account of God's hatred.

Leviticus 20:23 - "And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them."

Leviticus 26:30 - "And I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcases upon the carcases of your idols, and my soul shall abhor you."

Deuteronomy 32:19 - "And when the LORD saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters."

Psalm 5:5 - "The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity."

Psalm 5:6 - "Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man."

Psalm 10:3 - "For the wicked boasteth of his heart's desire, and blesseth the covetous, whom the LORD abhorreth."

Psalm 11:5 - "The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth."

Psalm 53:5 - "There were they in great fear, where no fear was: for God hath scattered the bones of him that encampeth against thee: thou hast put them to shame, because God hath despised them."

Psalm 73:20 - "As a dream when one awaketh; so, O Lord, when thou awakest, thou shalt despise their image."

Psalm 78:59 - "When God heard this, he was wroth, and greatly abhorred Israel:"

Psalm 106:40 - "Therefore was the wrath of the LORD kindled against his people, insomuch that he abhorred his own inheritance."

Proverbs 6:16-19 - "These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren."

Proverbs 22:14 - "The mouth of strange women is a deep pit: he that is abhorred of the LORD shall fall therein."

Lamentations 2:6 - "And he hath violently taken away his tabernacle, as if it were of a garden: he hath destroyed his places of the assembly: the LORD hath caused the solemn feasts and sabbaths to be forgotten in Zion, and hath despised in the indignation of his anger the king and the priest."

Hosea 9:15 - "All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters."

Zechariah 11:8 - "Three shepherds also I cut off in one month; and my soul lothed them, and their soul also abhorred me."

Malachi 1:3 - "And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness."

Romans 9:13 - "As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated."

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It is your lifestyle choice to be yourself instead of obeying Jesus. Every time you don the regalia of evil, you choose to be bullied.

Matthew 7:1-2
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."

Luke 6:37
"Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven"

Romans 14:4
"Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another?"

Actually, the church itself gives Christianity a bad name. It was the church who once taught that people were reincarnated so many times before they could go to heaven. They stopped teaching this only because people decided they did not need to listen to the church because they would have another chance. The church also taught that sex was only for procreation, and not to be enjoyed even within the bounds of marriage. While also claiming that a woman who became pregnant after rape sinned by enjoying it because a woman can only conceive if she has an orgasm.

It's true that the church has in the past taught many lies. That's why it is so important to read and memorize the Bible, so you can know what is true and what is a lie.

But we should focus on the present and our future, not on the shortcomings of the church's past. We should focus only on what is wholesome and good; and arguing about the church's and people's shortcomings is contrary to what the Bible instructs us.

Philippians 4:8
Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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Actually, the church itself gives Christianity a bad name. It was the church who once taught that people were reincarnated so many times before they could go to heaven. They stopped teaching this only because people decided they did not need to listen to the church because they would have another chance. The church also taught that sex was only for procreation, and not to be enjoyed even within the bounds of marriage. While also claiming that a woman who became pregnant after rape sinned by enjoying it because a woman can only conceive if she has an orgasm. So who is contradictory now?

The "Church" you speak of is the Catholic Cult of Whoredoms. They give Christianity a bad name by raping children, wearing skirts, and burning incense like a damned goth. We are not Catholics.

Why are you defending child rape?

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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Matthew 7:1-2
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."

Luke 6:37
"Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven"

Romans 14:4
"Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another?"



It's true that the church has in the past taught many lies. That's why it is so important to read and memorize the Bible, so you can know what is true and what is a lie.

But we should focus on the present and our future, not on the shortcomings of the church's past. We should focus only on what is wholesome and good; and arguing about the church's and people's shortcomings is contrary to what the Bible instructs us.

Philippians 4:8
Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.

Cherry picking will not save your immortal soul.

Psalm 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

1 Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

[fatuglywhoreofravensrock]

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Every time you stick a coat hanger in your semen coated uterus, you murder an unborn child. And every time you deny it, you spit in Christ's holy face.

As I said, why don't you come up with a response that is not childish? Why don't you actually reply to my first post? Oh wait. I already know the answer. You have never properly researched the Goth scene and know nothing about it, so you know not what to say in response. Please come again.

Also, I have never heard of ANYONE doing a thing like that. And I have heard A LOT of disgusting things in my time. If you had read my first post, you would know I have a four year old child. If someone stuck a coat hanger in their uterus, they would probably badly damage it and thus not be able to procreate. The only thing or person I have sex with is my (Christian) boyfriend. Oh the blasphemy! A god I do not believe in will condemn me to a hell I don't believe in! And probably my boyfriend too, regardless of whether we are good people or not, for daring to mate with a Pagan at all, let alone outside the bounds of marriage! And oh how conceited your god is, if he would condemn a good person to hell for not doing all that he commands!

Speaking the truth does not spit in anyone's face, Christian deity or otherwise. Not that one can spit in the face of a dead man who, faith aside, for all you know could have actually been capable of these "miracles" because he might have actually been a witch, as many Pagans believe. Though I myself think he was just a man.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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As I said, why don't you come up with a response that is not childish? Why don't you actually reply to my first post? Oh wait. I already know the answer. You have never properly researched the Goth scene and know nothing about it, so you know not what to say in response. Please come again.

Also, I have never heard of ANYONE doing a thing like that. And I have heard A LOT of disgusting things in my time. If you had read my first post, you would know I have a four year old child. If someone stuck a coat hanger in their uterus, they would probably badly damage it and thus not be able to procreate. The only thing or person I have sex with is my (Christian) boyfriend. Oh the blasphemy! A god I do not believe in will condemn me to a hell I don't believe in! And probably my boyfriend too, regardless of whether we are good people or not, for daring to mate with a Pagan at all, let alone outside the bounds of marriage! And oh how conceited your god is, if he would condemn a good person to hell for not doing all that he commands!

Speaking the truth does not spit in anyone's face, Christian deity or otherwise. Not that one can spit in the face of a dead man who, faith aside, for all you know could have actually been capable of these "miracles" because he might have actually been a witch, as many Pagans believe. Though I myself think he was just a man.

None of this is an adequate justification for abortion.

Bragging about your sexual conquests just makes you look like a whore, but I guess that's why you wear black too.

You still haven't responded to my question: why are you defending the Catholic Church and protecting rapists?

[fatuglywhoreofravensrock]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

The "Church" you speak of is the Catholic Cult of Whoredoms. They give Christianity a bad name by raping children, wearing skirts, and burning incense like a damned goth. We are not Catholics.

Why are you defending child rape?

No one is defending child rape, though you seem oddly interested in the subject and think of it often for people claiming to be so against it.

The Catholics are not the only denomination of Christianity that has had priests arrested for molesting or raping children. I have only ever met, or heard of, one Goth who has supposedly molested children. To my knowledge, this is just a rumour, but everyone who has heard it would avoid him if they saw him, but according to this rumour he is also in jail, as he should be if it's true. There are sick-minded mentally ill INDIVIDUALS in every religion and every group. But for the most part, Goths are not responsible for any of the things you claim they are, and do not do the majority of the things you claim they do. No one is defending child rape, people have simply pointed out this is extremely uncommon within the real Goth scene.