[SalvationSeeker]

Re: "Christian Help Forum"?

I'd need to be "imature and befuddled with drink" to become a christian. Don't tell me what I accept or don't accept. MY decisions are based on possible future outcome, past experiences, and what I see fit.

Your decisions are based on nothing but the latter, what YOU see fit.
But your opinons doesn't matter to Jesus.. Heh, they don't really matter to ANYONE to be honest.
You're going to hell, and you better get ready for an eternity of uncomprehensible pain.

If I'm still not sure, I ask a close friend or two. I'm happy because I am. I have such great people as friends. I don't really care about how life got here, and i don't care what happens when I die. All that matters to me is what's happening right now and how I can make the most of it. Love life! Stop worrying about everything.

You don't worry about tomorrow because you're only a spoiled brat aged 15.
Your parents take care of your spoiled and lazy behind and you don't have to worry about nothing..
That's why you don't worry about nothing, not tommorow, and so obviously not even life after death.
It has nothing to do with "inner peace", and it has all to do with the fact that you are young, stupid, and spoiled.
Get over your big ego and try to grow up, you spoiled little whore in the making.

[OnYourKnees]

Re: "Christian Help Forum"?

I was raised a christian (and still am, ironically).

I'd need to be "imature and befuddled with drink" to become a christian.

I'd definitely agree that you're immature. When were you befuddled with drink? After all, you claim to be a Christian.

[OnYourKnees]

Re: "Christian Help Forum"?

Hey, Serious Little Girl! I'm still waiting for an answer to the SERIOUS question you requested!

I do have a question to which I'd like an answer:

Hairy Homer refuted my erroneous statement that the majority of people in prison are atheists with statistics proving otherwise. You, on the other hand, accepted it as being true without question. This strongly suggests that you believe that atheists are much more likely to be immoral than Christians.

Please explain why it is that YOU believe that true morality can only come from God. Clearly, you do not believe that it is natural to humans.

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: "Christian Help Forum"?

I'd definitely agree that you're immature.

Who wouldn't?

After all, you claim to be a Christian.

She claims to be a Christian now? Wow, she sure is firm and steadfast in her beliefs, isn't she?
What kind of Christian does she claim to be now then, an atheistic Darwin-worshipping one?
What a silly girl.

[OnYourKnees]

Re: "Christian Help Forum"?

What a silly girl.

No, she's a SERIOUS girl, and I want an answer to my SERIOUS question.

[Born-Again Atheist]

Re: "Christian Help Forum"?

HAHA, being raised a christian and being a christian are totally different! I don't wanna be a christian! I don't wanna be of any religion!

"Hairy Homer refuted my erroneous statement that the majority of people in prison are atheists with statistics proving otherwise. You, on the other hand, accepted it as being true without question. This strongly suggests that you believe that atheists are much more likely to be immoral than Christians.

Please explain why it is that YOU believe that true morality can only come from God. Clearly, you do not believe that it is natural to humans."

I'd love to answer. But I disagree with your question. Don't assume what I believe, I don't believe that "morality can only come from God", due to the fact that I believe that there are no gods/is no god.

[OnYourKnees]

Re: "Christian Help Forum"?

HAHA, being raised a christian and being a christian are totally different! I don't wanna be a christian! I don't wanna be of any religion!

"Hairy Homer refuted my erroneous statement that the majority of people in prison are atheists with statistics proving otherwise. You, on the other hand, accepted it as being true without question. This strongly suggests that you believe that atheists are much more likely to be immoral than Christians.

Please explain why it is that YOU believe that true morality can only come from God. Clearly, you do not believe that it is natural to humans."

I'd love to answer. But I disagree with your question. Don't assume what I believe, I don't believe that "morality can only come from God", due to the fact that I believe that there are no gods/is no god.

Then why did you accept the statement without question?

[Brother Temperance]

Re: "Christian Help Forum"?

I'd need to be "imature and befuddled with drink" to become a christian.

Well, since you're already immature, are you telling us that all you need is a bottle of sweet, clove-flavoured gin, and you'll accept Christ into your heart?

Stop worrying about everything. I'm happy because I've found peace. Peace with myself, those around me and life in general. It's not your definition of peace, but that doesn't concern me.

Let me guess: You find "peace" in the belief that as soon as you choke on your own vomit, you'll be able to sleep forever? Your idea of peace is based on illusion. Why must you deny the Truth of God's Love?

Don't assume what I believe, I don't believe that "morality can only come from God", due to the fact that I believe that there are no gods/is no god.

So you believe that there is no such thing as morality?

[Born-Again Atheist]

Re: "Christian Help Forum"?

Nope, that was hypothetical. Atheism's for me.

Your idea of a god is based on a delusion. Thanks to Richard Dawkins for helping a heck of a lot of people realise this.

Morals can be based on culture, religion and philosophy. Delete "religion" from this list (and preferably the world) and you've still two good foundations. Oh sure, morals exist.

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: "Christian Help Forum"?

Morals can be based on culture, religion and philosophy. Delete "religion" from this list (and preferably the world) and you've still two good foundations. Oh sure, morals exist.

So you agree that "morals" is nothing but a cultures taboo's and opinons of right and wrong, without God? (And since you don't believe in Him, that's without God for sure.)
Then you know how there can be no morals without God, but only opinon.

[Born-Again Atheist]

Re: "Christian Help Forum"?

Base all YOUR morals on religion/god, I don't care what you do.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: "Christian Help Forum"?

Your idea of a god is based on a delusion. Thanks to Richard Dawkins for helping a heck of a lot of people realise this.

You really think that hate-filled zealot's ever actually changed anyone's mind? All he does is preach to the converted.

Morals can be based on culture, religion and philosophy. Delete "religion" from this list (and preferably the world) and you've still two good foundations. Oh sure, morals exist.

If you remove God from the equation, then you can only base morals on the subjective ideas of mankind. In that case, there is no way you can prove your "morals" are superior to ours. In fact, they are inferior to ours, as more people support them. Praise! Jesus wins again!

[Born-Again Atheist]

Re: "Christian Help Forum"?

Actually, Dawkins wrote "The God Delusion" for agnostics. The book outlines both arguments. Everyone's welcome to read it, he didn't win "Author of the Year" for no reason.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LV-6E6i5WI

"Morality is: the mediocre are worth more than the exceptions...I abhor Christianity with a deadly hatred." ~ Nietzsche
"In Christianity neither morality nor religion come into contact with reality at any point." ~ Nietzsche

Haha, Nietzsche truely was a great man.

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: "Christian Help Forum"?

"Morality is: the mediocre are worth more than the exceptions...I abhor Christianity with a deadly hatred." ~ Nietzsche

Define exceptions; are the exceptions the exceptionally intelligent(1) or the exceptionally stupid(2)?

If 1, and you consider the normal and/or stupid better than intelligent people..
Yeah, then I can see why you think that way, just looking out for yourself.

And if 2, then you are a facist. Which isn't a far fetch when you're an atheist.
So.. which one is it?

"In Christianity neither morality nor religion come into contact with reality at any point." ~ Nietzsche

Haha, Nietzsche truely was a great man.

Why was he a "great man"?
Because he hated Jesus?

What a great reason, that one..

[Brother Temperance]

Re: "Christian Help Forum"?

"Morality is: the mediocre are worth more than the exceptions...I abhor Christianity with a deadly hatred." ~ Nietzsche
"In Christianity neither morality nor religion come into contact with reality at any point." ~ Nietzsche

Haha, Nietzsche truely was a great man.

If by "great man", you mean "syphilis-riddled maniac who died in poverty and obscurity after inspiring fascism", then you are correct. And I see that you do now seem to have turned against morality, after your half-hearted attempts to claim it was possible without God... well, I suppose that, to an immoral atheist, hypocrisy can't be a sin.