[Nutella88]

Re: I left last night

So you are saying that the middleman is the "WIFE"?

[John W. Booth]

Re: I left last night

I'm a little timid about sticking my beezer in here where it might not belong, BUT...

I don't even find the sexual immorality the worst of it. It's the lack of any respect for me, the "corrections" that have become harsher and harsher. A month or so ago, he twisted my arm in such a way that it is still sore.

Our marriage bed had grown cold, and I thought that it was because he had lost interest in sex. Well to find him doing this proves that he's only lost interest IN ME!

I'm so upset, what am I supposed to do? I can't go back to my father, he's been placed in an old age home. I haven't worked in over 10 years, I don't even know where to start looking for a job. And if I did start working I'd have to put the older boys into public school and the youngest into daycare. Who knows what blasphemes they'll be taught there.

He has been phoning the apartment this morning, but I haven't picked up the phone. I don't know what to say or do.

...it seems to me that your disdain for your husband's authority goes way back. When you mention, " the "corrections" that have become harsher and harsher", I wonder why you haven't be able to learn earlier to stop the behaviors that led to the earlier (and obviously continuing) "corrections". What has kept you from complying with his directives? You know the rules, yet as recently as yesterday you defied him and entered his office against his rule. His activity in the office, as disgusting as it is, is actually irrelevant. You continue to defy him and you blame him for your defiance. His sons belong at home where they can learn from their father's Godly example. Taking them as your hostages while you run off and enjoy your tantrum is wicked. If your brother has a spine, he's run you out of his apartment by now and has helped your husband's sons to reunite with their father. Shame on you for confusing the poor boys and leading them to believe that wives should be able to just walk off on their husbands in the face of adversity. You call yourself "BelieverInGod", but we both know what it is God would have you doing right now. You go on home now. Everything will be better once you have finally learned your place and have begun to work a lot harder at making a perfect home for your husband and his sons (future fathers). As for your attractiveness, surely you aren't saying it is utterly beyond your means to keep yourself fresh and pretty as a daisy for him. It's called work.

22Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. 23For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

Ephesians 5:22-24 (King James Version)

You don't have a problem with the advice offered by the 1611 King James Bible, do you BelieverInGod?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: I left last night

Oh sure they have, and if I am not Married. Who is at fault then?

Satan.

[Nutella88]

Re: I left last night

Oh sure they have, and if I am not Married. Who is at fault then?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: I left last night

Of course it's your wife's fault! You would never be subjected to the sins of the flesh if your wife were a Godly woman. If you are so tempted, it is clear that she has not been paying sufficient attention to your comfort, food, cleaning, etc.

Your wife has driven you towards Satan!

[Nutella88]

Re: I left last night

What is wrong with you people? Why are you two blaming everything on her. If I go out and sleep with another woman today. Is that my wifes fault? No, it is not.

If I decide to go out and murder another person. Is that my wifes fault then also?

[Sister Kitty]

Re: I left last night

Well I answered the phone the last time he called. Seems that when I killed the power supply I corrupted his hard drive, so he's really ticked off about that. He's taken the dogs to a friends house so they're okay. I called the friend and checked, they're confused and upset, but okay. She said she'll take care of them until this is all sorted out. He's mad at me for leaving, but he didn't say anything about me coming back, other than I better know how to fix his machine.

You broke his equipment? Unfortunately for you, I expect additional discipline is required.

A co-worker of his (I can't believe he discussed this at work ) has a sister who's a lawyer who handles 'abusive' relationships.

I understand and admire your contrition, but having charges brought against yourself will not help your overall family situation.

The boys want to know when they can go home, they're bored, they didn't sleep well on the floor last night.

I'm sure they did not. And why are they there? Who took them to that floor to sleep on? Perhaps you have amends to make not only to your husband, but also to his boys.

I don't know what to do, I'm so confused. Does the Bible really expect me to put up with everything from him? Isn't there a limit? I'm sure I've forgiven him at least 7X70 times. Isn't he supposed to love me?

A True Christian™ man will love his wife above all other than God and his children, if she also is a True Christian™. If he does not, you need to become a Truer Christian and a more devoted wife, mother, and homemaker.

I've got such a headache right now, I don't know what to do. I'm so lost, why would Jesus let him beat me?

Maybe the better question is why did you make Jesus have to make your husband have to beat you. If you answer that question, and repent, maybe your family has a chance of being whole again.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: I left last night

Well I answered the phone the last time he called. Seems that when I killed the power supply I corrupted his hard drive, so he's really ticked off about that. He's taken the dogs to a friends house so they're okay. I called the friend and checked, they're confused and upset, but okay. She said she'll take care of them until this is all sorted out. He's mad at me for leaving, but he didn't say anything about me coming back, other than I better know how to fix his machine.

My brother thinks I should lay charges for the physical abuse. My shoulder still hurts and I've got bruises, he wants me to go to a doctor tomorrow. A co-worker of his (I can't believe he discussed this at work ) has a sister who's a lawyer who handles 'abusive' relationships.

The boys want to know when they can go home, they're bored, they didn't sleep well on the floor last night.

I don't know what to do, I'm so confused. Does the Bible really expect me to put up with everything from him? Isn't there a limit? I'm sure I've forgiven him at least 7X70 times. Isn't he supposed to love me?

I've got such a headache right now, I don't know what to do. I'm so lost, why would Jesus let him beat me?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: I left last night

I was simply saying that it may not have been her fault.

Of course it's her fault. You can't blame a Christian man for this.

[Nutella88]

Re: I left last night

Um, okay. Why are you stating obvious things?

I was simply saying that it may not have been her fault.

[Brother Enoch]

Re: I left last night

But there are things that a Woman simply has no control over. And that is the way men are.

Um, okay. Why are you stating obvious things?

[Nutella88]

Re: I left last night

Let me see this in a nicer way then.

I do not agree with Pastor Ezekiel, he may be a smart man. But there are things that a Woman simply has no control over. And that is the way men are.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: I left last night

Pastor, I am greatly sorry but you are completely wrong on that one. Men are not always right. And you know it.

No one asked for your unsaved opinion, harlot.

[Nutella88]

Re: I left last night

Pastor, I am greatly sorry but you are completely wrong on that one. Men are not always right. And you know it.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: I left last night

Sister, I'm wondering what you've done to drive your husband into the arms of self-abuse. In my experience as a True Christian(tm) pastor, it's always the wife's fault when these things happen.