Whats wrong with this pastor

[Nobrains]

"Jude not unless you be judged"
"We see your fruit and not off the tree"

Pastor Ezekiel I am writing this because you are such a hypocrite you are ignorant yet you try and justify other people. I would like to tell you that it is hierarchy to call yourself a pastor when you are not one. Christians I know do not have forum emblems that say "Your now Jesus's best friend just because I said so!" There is a judgement day and you will be JUDGED BY GOD. Not only do you follow the old law you try and silence people who do speak truth to you. You spread lies like Satan does with your false teaching and interpretation of the Bible.

I just pray that one day you might come to the truth and not act foolish like you do now. You and this forum are also racist with your KKK symbols and your racism against African Americans God loves all people even the Israel's were dark colored yet God still loved them.

We are no longer under the old covenant we are on the new covenant. Wake up and smell the roses.

[Lycia The Repentant]

Re: Whats wrong with this pastor

Yet another false christian who hasn't bothered to read the Bible.

"Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye." Matthew 7:1-5

Its a prohibition against hypocritical judging. Read more about it here.

Now, I presume you meant these verses:

"Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." Matthew 7:16-20

We follow the KJV Bible to the LETTER and all of our arguments are backed up with that scripture. And since that scripture is from God, it is inherently good and ergo our "fruits" are inherently good.

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." Matthew 5:17

Hmm... looks like the old law still applies!

Now why don't you point out exactly where we've twisted scripture here. Book, chapter, and verse please.

And nobody here is racist. You can read more about it here

[Nobrains]

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You guys are racist you have KKK symbols and everything. If we are under the old law then we are all going to Hell because we can NOT keep all those laws no one can it is IMPOSSIBLE. And what does God say "If ye have broken one then ye have broken them all"

And Pastor don't reply at all if your not going to justify everything I say you leave out things that you can't answer.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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You guys are racist you have KKK symbols and everything. If we are under the old law then we are all going to Hell because we can NOT keep all those laws no one can it is IMPOSSIBLE. And what does God say "If ye have broken one then ye have broken them all"

And Pastor don't reply at all if your not going to justify everything I say you leave out things that you can't answer.

I leave my light work to the women. You aren't worth my time, nancy.

[Nobrains]

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You really want to get on to me don't you? Why don't you READ my ENTIRE POST WORD TO WORD and then reply not just point out one thing. We are not under the old law if that were true then we would all go to Hell because it says "Ye break one ye have broken them all" NO ONE can keep the old law.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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"Jude not unless you be judged"
"We see your fruit and not off the tree"

Pastor Ezekiel I am writing this because you are such a hypocrite you are ignorant yet you try and justify other people. I would like to tell you that it is hierarchy to call yourself a pastor when you are not one. Christians I know do not have forum emblems that say "Your now Jesus's best friend just because I said so!" There is a judgement day and you will be JUDGED BY GOD. Not only do you follow the old law you try and silence people who do speak truth to you. You spread lies like Satan does with your false teaching and interpretation of the Bible.

I just pray that one day you might come to the truth and not act foolish like you do now. You and this forum are also racist with your KKK symbols and your racism against African Americans God loves all people even the Israel's were dark colored yet God still loved them.

We are no longer under the old covenant we are on the new covenant. Wake up and smell the roses.

You really want to get on to me don't you? Why don't you READ my ENTIRE POST WORD TO WORD and then reply not just point out one thing. We are not under the old law if that were true then we would all go to Hell because it says "Ye break one ye have broken them all" NO ONE can keep the old law.

Okay, let's start with your first word.

Who is "Jude?"

[Lycia The Repentant]

Re: Whats wrong with this pastor

You really want to get on to me don't you? Why don't you READ my ENTIRE POST WORD TO WORD and then reply not just point out one thing. We are not under the old law if that were true then we would all go to Hell because it says "Ye break one ye have broken them all" NO ONE can keep the old law.

I'm sure Pastor Zeke didn't want to waste time answering your questions when I've already answered them. I've shown you the scripture where Jesus confirms we live under the old law, don't confuse your lack of ability to follow God's commandments with it being impossible to do so.

[barton]

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We are not under the old law if that were true then we would all go to Hell because it says "Ye break one ye have broken them all" NO ONE can keep the old law.

This is typical, neo-Christian twaddle. You've invented a complete disconnect between old covenant law and new covenant freedom. Why do you think this freedom translates into anything goes?

Matthew 5 addresses this precisely:

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

You reference James 2:10:

For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one [point], he is guilty of all.

It's more than just wishful thinking that twists this into, "thou shalt not bother trying to keep any law". It's defeatist, lazy, dishonest Sunday-morning Christianity. Do what you please during the week, right?

No, the whole point is that we are not to be condemned under the old law. Romans 5 tells us:

1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

What does it say about your faith, though, that you are happy to break Mosaic law? What kind of fruit do you bear, the evidence of your faith, that you saunter about, doing as you please? Have you read James 2?

20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?

By ignoring the old law, you demonstrate your lack of faith... faith which is required for salvation under the new covenant.

[Mistress Cookie]

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If we are under the old law then we are all going to Hell because we can NOT keep all those laws no one can it is IMPOSSIBLE.

First off, I would like to welcome you, Brother. I am glad you have found us, and have a chance to be Truly Saved(tm).

Now, in the above quote, are you implying a bunch of Bronze Age peoples, who were living under the Olde Covenant, were capable of following God's Law completely, but we are not? There have been many advances in the last few thousand years, and those advances should make it easier, not harder, for us to get things done.

Where there's a will there's a way. And that's the American way.
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