is it a sin?

[narrowpathy]

To be the Instrument of God?

[eliot mayfield]

Re: is it a sin?

Why do I sense you're trying to lay a trap?
Answer me this:
What is faith?
Do you have it?

[narrowpathy]

Re: is it a sin?

Why do I sense you're trying to lay a trap?
Answer me this:
What is faith?
Do you have it?

yes, of course.

[eliot mayfield]

Re: is it a sin?

I f you have faith then you don't need to ask stupid questions.

[Seth Cochran]

Re: is it a sin?

I'm curious. What are you trying to say narrowpathy?

[eliot mayfield]

Re: is it a sin?

He just can't understand God is always right and you have to have 100% faith in him.

[Roberta]

Re: is it a sin?

I have always heard that Baptists think drinking, dancing and card playing are sinful activities. Is this true?

I enjoy the occasional tot of a good claret, play solitary every day and aspired to become a ballerina before I outgrew my tutu.

[see_the_light]

Re: is it a sin?

I have always heard that Baptists think drinking, dancing and card playing are sinful activities. Is this true?

I enjoy the occasional tot of a good claret, play solitary every day and aspired to become a ballerina before I outgrew my tutu.

Drinking is one thing, getting drunk another.

Playing is one thing gambling another.

Dancing is something satans movements another.

Read your Bible and/or ask, but empty your heart of those false views on baptists.

PRAISE THE LORD!

[narrowpathy]

Re: is it a sin?


Phinehas committed murder of two people. The sixth Commandment says, "Do NOT Kill!" (Check this cute site btw http://www.ainglkiss.com/10com/6co.htm)

On the other hand,

Numbers 25:6-8

6And, behold, one of the children of Israel came and brought unto his brethren a Midianitish woman in the sight of Moses, and in the sight of all the congregation of the children of Israel, who were weeping before the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.
7And when Phinehas, the son of Eleazar, the son of Aaron the priest, saw it, he rose up from among the congregation, and took a javelin in his hand; 8And he went after the man of Israel into the tent, and thrust both of them through, the man of Israel, and the woman through her belly. So the plague was stayed from the children of Israel.

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What I wanted to ask 'did Phineas sin?'
In my humble opinion Phineas didn't want to kill anybody, not even when he took the javelin and went into that tent and even when he was thrusting that javelin, he didn't want to kill anybody. Our Lord made use of Phineas's arms (and legs), and thus not Phineas, but Our Lord Himself executed those two offenders.
So, please answer my original question - "Is it a sin to be the Instrument of God?"

[Brother Temperance]

Re: is it a sin?

What I wanted to ask 'did Phineas sin?'
In my humble opinion Phineas didn't want to kill anybody, not even when he took the javelin and went into that tent and even when he was thrusting that javelin, he didn't want to kill anybody. Our Lord made use of Phineas's arms (and legs), and thus not Phineas, but Our Lord Himself executed those two offenders.
So, please answer my original question - "Is it a sin to be the Instrument of God?"

Of course it's not murder if God tells you to do it. Otherwise killing ragheads would be a bad thing, and that idea's obviously ludicrous. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure it's probably a sin to clog up God's forums with multiple witless threads. Can't you just start a single thread called "Narrowpathy's stupid questions" and keep to there?

[narrowpathy]

Re: is it a sin?

sic On the other hand, I'm pretty sure it's probably a sin to clog up God's forums with multiple witless threads. sic

Brother Temp,
probably implies that you are not sure/certain. In any case, please show me where in the Bible it says anything about the sin of clogging God's forum.

[One-eyed Jack]

Re: is it a sin?

I am not meaning to answer for Brother Temperence, a better Christian man than I will ever be.

But I am SURE that it is not a sin to kill when God tells you to. Moses, one of the holiest men who ever lived, brought the "Thou shalt not kill" commandment down from Mount Sinai. And this is what he did next:

Then Moses stood in the gate of the camp, and said, Who is on the LORD's side? let him come unto me. And all the sons of Levi gathered themselves together unto him.

And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.

And the children of Levi did according to the word of Moses: and there fell of the people that day about three thousand men. Exodus 32:26-28.

Later on God told Moses to massacre the Midianites. Did Moses sin for being an instrument of God in these mass killings? Of course not! So even if Phinehas acted of free will but was choosing to follow a command of God, then it would not have been a sin.

Bodily possession by the Holy Spirit is not the usual case when God needs to have somebody killed. When He puts out a contract on somebody He just usually tells one of His people to do it, and if the guy refuses to make the hit then God curses him with emerods and scabs and boils and madness and misfortune and starvation and plagues, and then when he dies God sends him to Hell.

~~ OEJ

[Brother Temperance]

Re: is it a sin?

Later on God told Moses to massacre the Midianites. Did Moses sin for being an instrument of God in these mass killings? Of course not! So even if Phinehas acted of free will but was choosing to follow a command of God, then it would not have been a sin.

Bodily possession by the Holy Spirit is not the usual case when God needs to have somebody killed. When He puts out a contract on somebody He just usually tells one of His people to do it, and if the guy refuses to make the hit then God curses him with emerods and scabs and boils and madness and misfortune and starvation and plagues, and then when he dies God sends him to Hell.

~~ OEJ

Godly point. Not only is it not a sin to kill when God wants you to do it, it is also a sin to not kill when God wants you to do it. To quote one of my all-time favourite passages:
1 Samuel 15:17 And Samuel said, When thou wast little in thine own sight, wast thou not made the head of the tribes of Israel, and the LORD anointed thee king over Israel? 18 And the LORD sent thee on a journey, and said, Go and utterly destroy the sinners the Amalekites, and fight against them until they be consumed.
19 Wherefore then didst thou not obey the voice of the LORD, but didst fly upon the spoil, and didst evil in the sight of the LORD?
20 And Saul said unto Samuel, Yea, I have obeyed the voice of the LORD, and have gone the way which the LORD sent me, and have brought Agag the king of Amalek, and have utterly destroyed the Amalekites.
21 But the people took of the spoil, sheep and oxen, the chief of the things which should have been utterly destroyed, to sacrifice unto the LORD thy God in Gilgal.
22 And Samuel said, Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.
23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.



You see, failing to slaughter pagan cattle is as bad as being a witch.

[Juliette]

Re: is it a sin?

I am not meaning to answer for Brother Temperence, a better Christian man than I will ever be.

But I am SURE that it is not a sin to kill when God tells you to. Moses, one of the holiest men who ever lived, brought the "Thou shalt not kill" commandment down from Mount Sinai. And this is what he did next:

Then Moses stood in the gate of the camp, and said, Who is on the LORD's side? let him come unto me. And all the sons of Levi gathered themselves together unto him.

And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.

And the children of Levi did according to the word of Moses: and there fell of the people that day about three thousand men. Exodus 32:26-28.

Later on God told Moses to massacre the Midianites. Did Moses sin for being an instrument of God in these mass killings? Of course not! So even if Phinehas acted of free will but was choosing to follow a command of God, then it would not have been a sin.

Bodily possession by the Holy Spirit is not the usual case when God needs to have somebody killed. When He puts out a contract on somebody He just usually tells one of His people to do it, and if the guy refuses to make the hit then God curses him with emerods and scabs and boils and madness and misfortune and starvation and plagues, and then when he dies God sends him to Hell.

~~ OEJ

Amen.

So much wisdom in your words Mr OEJ.

[narrowpathy]

Re: is it a sin?

Did Merciful Jesus Christ tell Eric Robert Rudolph to kill?