[Born-Again Atheist]

Re: Why waste time?

Err.... no. I've decided about what I live for. I live to bring happiness to others- and this in turn gives me happiness. I also live to gain knowledge. If any god wants to send me to hell for living like this, letting me join the likes of Hitler, Stalin, Saddam Husein etc etc, well then, IMO, that's not just.

[Sista Lateefah]

Re: Why waste time?

I go to church because my parents say so. I keep my mouth shut, my head up and my ears open. I'll go to a building on Sunday until I'm 18, or until my parents respect my beliefs. I also play viola in the church orchestra. Can't let the orchestra down. I really do live for music.

PRAISE JESUS! So there be a chance that yo parents is True Christians™, although it be a small chance as they is not Americans. Perhaps you can tell yo daddy about God's Favorite Forum so that he can come in and see the horrible filth you has been writing about Jesus! I think if he beat you daily for a few months, you would eventually be right in yo walk with the LORD. Praise!!

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Why waste time?

I go to church because my parents say so. I keep my mouth shut, my head up and my ears open. I'll go to a building on Sunday until I'm 18, or until my parents respect my beliefs. I also play viola in the church orchestra. Can't let the orchestra down. I really do live for music.

Would it not be better to start living for something truly worthwhile, like Jesus?

[Born-Again Atheist]

Re: Why waste time?

There you go again, being racist against the Polish...
"Yes, and you were the one who first started implying that fornicating with Polacks was worse than fornicating with normal people."
The Polish are "normal people". But there is no such thing as "normal people". I've always had truck with the word "normal"...
As for potential partners... no, it's a platonic love. And strictly so.

I go to church because my parents say so. I keep my mouth shut, my head up and my ears open. I'll go to a building on Sunday until I'm 18, or until my parents respect my beliefs. I also play viola in the church orchestra. Can't let the orchestra down. I really do live for music.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Why waste time?

Where to start...

I do have some great friends who happen to be Polish, one's a translator and the other works in McDonald's... he hates it, but he doesn't complain...

Then why did you refer to your potential polack partner as "someone who speaks very little English"? Your story just doesn't add up.

"Brother Temperance" wrote:
"What's so perverted about fornicating with Polacks? Why is it more perverted than fornicating with proper people? Are you some kind of racist?"
Umm, you were the one that first mentioned fornicating with Polish in dumpsters, remember...?

Yes, and you were the one who first started implying that fornicating with Polacks was worse than fornicating with normal people.

"Brother Temperance" wrote:
"I notice that you don't even attempt to deny fornicating with strange Polacks in dumpsters! "

"Proper people"?!?! Oh, so because they're from Poland means that they're not "proper people"? You sicken me. Accusing me of fornication, then racism, while you yourself are being racist?


As I deny the existence of a god, I also deny the exostence of a devil. One can't exist without the other. So I believe that neither of them exist. I know some people call themselves atheists, but worship satan.. I don't get them. They've got it almost as wrong as you all do.

You can deny the existence of the Devil all you like. You can also try denying the existence with cars and sitting down in the middle of the road. At least cars can't make you suffer for all eternity.

"Brother Temperance" wrote:
"Understand? If you don't go to Church on Sunday, that means you're guilty of every sin imaginable. When it comes to people who don't follow God's word, it doesn't matter if you do have sex with strange Slavs in dumpsters, or if you don't, or if you're a strange Polack who likes fornicating with 15-year-old girls in dumpsters, or if you're a Catholic who enjoys raping babies - it's all exactly the same in the eyes of the Lord."
I do go to church on Sundays... But as Bill Sunday puts it:
"Going to Church doesn't make a man Christian any more than going to a garage makes him an automobile."

Why would a loud-mouthed atheist go to Church on Sundays? There may be some hope for you yet, my Godless friend.

[Born-Again Atheist]

Re: Why waste time?

Where to start...

I do have some great friends who happen to be Polish, one's a translator and the other works in McDonald's... he hates it, but he doesn't complain...

"Brother Temperance" wrote:
"What's so perverted about fornicating with Polacks? Why is it more perverted than fornicating with proper people? Are you some kind of racist?"
Umm, you were the one that first mentioned fornicating with Polish in dumpsters, remember...?
"Brother Temperance" wrote:
"I notice that you don't even attempt to deny fornicating with strange Polacks in dumpsters! "

"Proper people"?!?! Oh, so because they're from Poland means that they're not "proper people"? You sicken me. Accusing me of fornication, then racism, while you yourself are being racist?


As I deny the existence of a god, I also deny the exostence of a devil. One can't exist without the other. So I believe that neither of them exist. I know some people call themselves atheists, but worship satan.. I don't get them. They've got it almost as wrong as you all do.

"Brother Temperance" wrote:
"Understand? If you don't go to Church on Sunday, that means you're guilty of every sin imaginable. When it comes to people who don't follow God's word, it doesn't matter if you do have sex with strange Slavs in dumpsters, or if you don't, or if you're a strange Polack who likes fornicating with 15-year-old girls in dumpsters, or if you're a Catholic who enjoys raping babies - it's all exactly the same in the eyes of the Lord."
I do go to church on Sundays... But as Bill Sunday puts it:
"Going to Church doesn't make a man Christian any more than going to a garage makes him an automobile."

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Why waste time?

I'm truely amazed at myself for taking so little offence to all that abuse. "Fornicating with strange Polacks in dumpsters"? Wanna know why I didn't mention that? Because I've never ever ever considered that, you pervert. What's to say I couldn't be saving myself for marriage?

What's so perverted about fornicating with Polacks? Why is it more perverted than fornicating with proper people? Are you some kind of racist?

The bible's account of creation is very simple. Like said, "God says in the Bible that He created it." God is generally used as a simple answer to difficult questions. But these simple answers lead to even more questions.

Has anyone ever noticed that religion could exist without creationism, but creationism would be nonexistent without religion? Interesting relationship, IMO. Seriously, think about it.

All religions other than Christianity are completely false and not worthy of civilised people's attention. That goes without saying. Now, the only possible reason for following Christianity is if you accept the literal truth of the Bible. If you throw out the creation story for being completely implausible and unscientific, but still believe that Jesus rose from the dead after three days, then you are being very illogical, inconsistent and hypocritical. So creationism is pretty vital to any kind of coherent Christian worldview, which is the only kind of religion that matters.

You mean you think I want to have sex with some one I've never met and speaks very little English, and, of all places, in a dumpster? And the holy spirit told you this? If anyone's told you this, it's the devil. I have higher standards than that. Plus as a 15 year old I'm underaged. You DO know two people agree to have sex, otherwise it's known as rape...? I wouldn't be surprised if you came out with some I hope you get raped statement now.

James 9:9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

Understand? If you don't go to Church on Sunday, that means you're guilty of every sin imaginable. When it comes to people who don't follow God's word, it doesn't matter if you do have sex with strange Slavs in dumpsters, or if you don't, or if you're a strange Polack who likes fornicating with 15-year-old girls in dumpsters, or if you're a Catholic who enjoys raping babies - it's all exactly the same in the eyes of the Lord.

And just for the record, with the right training, some of the more advanced Polacks can be trained to speak a kind of broken pidgin English to a perfectly acceptable standard. You shouldn't be so quick to judge others.

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Why waste time?

You mean you think I want to have sex with some one I've never met and speaks very little English, and, of all places, in a dumpster? And the holy spirit told you this?

No, you just did! You pervert... Don't ever even think such vile things.
And if you do, please don't tell me about it, I just don't want to know.

If anyone's told you this, it's the devil.

You mean the one who'm you don't believe in, silly atheist?
Or do you only refuse to acknowledge God? But love and worship satan?
(As most atheists actually do behind closed doors.)

I have higher standards than that. Plus as a 15 year old I'm underaged.

So you admit that you are underaged but still not a virgin?
How else could you have "higher standards"?
JESUS IS WATCHING YOU, HARLOT!

[SUV]

Re: Why waste time?

I wouldn't be surprised if you came out with some I hope you get raped statement now.

I didn't say it - YOU DID!

HA-ha!

[SinisterPizza]

Re: Why waste time?

Do you accept Muhammad? Read the Qu'ran? Assuming your answer is no, from an islam's perceptive, you're an atheist.

An atheist means you have no religion at all. If you don't believe in Muhammad, but you believe in Jesus, or God, or a Goddess, saints, angels, demons, pagan gods, or even if you are a satanist, you are not an atheist.

Also, whether you believe in the Christian perspective of Jesus or not (I do, though), there is still proof that at some time, He did exist on this earth. He isn't imaginary.

[Born-Again Atheist]

Re: Why waste time?

You mean you think I want to have sex with some one I've never met and speaks very little English, and, of all places, in a dumpster? And the holy spirit told you this? If anyone's told you this, it's the devil. I have higher standards than that. Plus as a 15 year old I'm underaged. You DO know two people agree to have sex, otherwise it's known as rape...? I wouldn't be surprised if you came out with some I hope you get raped statement now.

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Why waste time?

I'm truely amazed at myself for taking so little offence to all that abuse. "Fornicating with strange Polacks in dumpsters"? Wanna know why I didn't mention that? Because I've never ever ever considered that, you pervert. What's to say I couldn't be saving myself for marriage?

God knows your heart.. And don't try to lie to us either, the Holy Spirit tells us many things that are hidden.
And you do have some vile fantasies.

Whatever sinful behaviour you engage in, God knows, and He will expose your vile sins and darkest secrets for everyone to see.
For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known.
Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.
Luke 12:2-3

The bible is just a book. Mere pages with ink. I'm not falling for it. Put it under fiction for all I care.

A bold statement when you have no proof..
You're basically gambling with your immortal soul.
And mark my words you foolish heathen, it won't end well..

[Born-Again Atheist]

Re: Why waste time?

I'm truely amazed at myself for taking so little offence to all that abuse. "Fornicating with strange Polacks in dumpsters"? Wanna know why I didn't mention that? Because I've never ever ever considered that, you pervert. What's to say I couldn't be saving myself for marriage?

The bible's account of creation is very simple. Like said, "God says in the Bible that He created it." God is generally used as a simple answer to difficult questions. But these simple answers lead to even more questions.

Has anyone ever noticed that religion could exist without creationism, but creationism would be nonexistent without religion? Interesting relationship, IMO. Seriously, think about it.

The bible is just a book. Mere pages with ink. I'm not falling for it. Put it under fiction for all I care.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Why waste time?

But hey, I guess even adults can have imaginary friends (yes, I am implying your jesus).

You're implying that OYK is Jesus? He's a very Godly man, so I can see how you'd make that mistake, but really: He and Jesus are two quite distinct people, and to imply otherwise is blasphemy.

Well, can you show us the verse and chapter I requested that would "prove" how we sinned?

I'm sure she can cite chapter and verse in her atheist Dawkins manuals - she apparently finds relying on them easier than thinking for herself.

Oh please Lateefah Yomama, type legibly!!

Have you read a single post by any of the doom-obsessed Eurogothbeasts that infest our forum? There's a lot worse out there than Lateefah, a lot worse.

Abandon atheism, and maybe become a theologian? Pah, I believe theology isn't even a subject.

Reality disagrees with you.

This is a forum, right? Everybody may come here. It's no fault of mine that I may not be used to every form of collequial language. I'm no racist, I assure you. Really, I'm the perfect 15 year old daughter. I don't smoke, don't take drugs, don't drink alcohol, am not a racist.

I notice that you don't even attempt to deny fornicating with strange Polacks in dumpsters!

Par one huge factor though, I deny the existence of every god that every society has ever believed in, yes, that does include god the father, son and holy spirit. And look, haven't been smitten/smiten/smotten/whatever yet!

That just shows how infintely merciful God is; He is letting you live so that you may come to Him. Praise!

Death comes to ev-er-y-one! Religion DOES NOT come into the equation! Your jesus died. You might differ that HE was smited.

My point was that YOU DON'T NEED CHRISTIANITY TO LEAD A BEAUTIFUL LIFE. I have morals. No god required.

Death may come to everyone, but the second death in the Lake of Fire does not, and that's where religion comes into the equation! And where did your morals come from? Did you just make them up yourself? If so, what makes them better than David Berkowitz's morals, or Joseph Stalin's, or Nancy Pelosi's?

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Why waste time?

Things are getting interesting now, haha. Just because no one can ever prove the inexistence/existence of a god, doesn't mean the probabilities are 50:50. Quite contrary. On the whole, god almost certainly DOES NOT exist. I agree (I do tend to go with fact over what suits). Obviously, you disagree with logic.

Look around. Where did the universe come from?

God says in the Bible that He created it.

It's there.

Do you have another explanation? Keep in mind that the "Big Bang" theory doesn't have any answer for what existed before said "Bang", nor the origins of matter.