[sidecrapin]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Tell me, if your skin and the rest of you will boil at 1300, do think it would also boil at 4000? You really have no idea what you are talking about and are using little kid logic.

Tell me when you have a hot pan or stove and drop water on it does it sit and boil? No it instantly turns into steam.

This is because it is such a small amount it instantly reaches that temperature.
So if you would like argue that a human bodies, made of solid parts, will first of all "boil" but also that it will boil at 1300 degrees, you would have to believe that at 4000 degrees it would pretty much evaporate into nothing on contact.
In reality this is what happens. If you fell into molten metal you would not melt you would instantly burn up and sear into nothing and dissipate.

[HellOfATroll!]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Your posts are all juvenile. Not an attack. Sorry

ju⋅ve⋅nile

  /ˈdʒuvənl, -ˌnaɪl/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [joo-vuh-nl, -nahyl] Show IPA Use juvenile in a Sentence

–adjective 1. of, pertaining to, characteristic of, or suitable or intended for young persons: juvenile books. 2. young; youthful: juvenile years. 3. immature; childish; infantile: His juvenile tantrums are not in keeping with his age.
–noun 4. a young person; youth. 5. Theater. a. a youthful male or female role. b. an actor or actress who plays such parts. 6. a book for children. 7. Ornithology. a young bird in the stage when it has fledged, if altricial, or has replaced down of hatching, if precocial. 8. a two-year-old racehorse.

Origin:
1615–25; < L juvenīlis youthful, equiv. to juven(is) youthful + -īlis -ile

Related forms:
ju⋅ve⋅nile⋅ly, adverb

Synonyms:
1. See young.

I had to check and see if they added a new definition to juvenile, but using the 3rd definition I can see how you might have been confused. To clear up this confusion, allow me to show you a juvenile argument:

"Their is noe wayy u culd be wright becuz i disagree wit da opinyuns u hav pervide an onyl 1 opunyun kan be da rite 1 ignorez da fact dat their's no lojic in my argyumant onyl opinyun"
/End example

Come to think of it, that actually sounds a lot like someone around here who is disagreeing with me...I wonder who it could be

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Tell me when you have a hot pan or stove and drop water on it does it sit and boil? No it instantly turns into steam.

This is because it is such a small amount it instantly reaches that temperature.
So if you would like argue that a human bodies, made of solid parts, will first of all "boil" but also that it will boil at 1300 degrees, you would have to believe that at 4000 degrees it would pretty much evaporate into nothing on contact.
In reality this is what happens. If you fell into molten metal you would not melt you would instantly burn up and sear into nothing and dissipate.

It might seem so. However, had you paid attention in school, as a material changes from one state to another, it cannot 'jump' states. A solid must liquify before turning into a gas. The act of boling is the change over from a liquid to a gas. Time is relative to energy.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

HellOfATroll!, are you stupid or just act that way?

Related to Trig, are you?

[sidecrapin]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

It might seem so. However, had you paid attention in school, as a material changes from one state to another, it cannot 'jump' states. A solid must liquify before turning into a gas. The act of boling is the change over from a liquid to a gas. Time is relative to energy.

So your arguement is that it boils for a split second so technically it still counts? Wow, how immature of an arguement is that?

also, obviously not everything in the human body is comprised of the same thing.
18% roughly is carbon.
Carbon, at atmospheric pressure, has no melting point. Semantics..do away with them.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

So your arguement is that it boils for a split second so technically it still counts? Wow, how immature of an arguement is that?

also, obviously not everything in the human body is comprised of the same thing.
18% roughly is carbon.
Carbon, at atmospheric pressure, has no melting point. Semantics..do away with them.

You are wrong, sorry. Read a book.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Basic Information


Name: Carbon
Symbol: C
Atomic Number: 6
Atomic Mass: 12.0107 amu
Melting Point: 3500.0 °C (3773.15 K, 6332.0 °F)
Boiling Point: 4827.0 °C (5100.15 K, 8720.6 °F)
Number of Protons/Electrons: 6
Number of Neutrons: 6
Classification: Non-metal
Crystal Structure: Hexagonal
Density @ 293 K: 2.62 g/cm3
Color: May be black



Hmmmmmm well below the temp of the core of the Earth, that you stated.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Look kiddies, you are getting off topic. I will not entertain (nor will anyone else) continued childish topics. If you have nothing worthwhile to contribute and instead, spout off about things that you know nothing about, please toddle on and go find a "Chucky Cheese" to be with your own kind.

[sidecrapin]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Basic Information


Name: Carbon
Symbol: C
Atomic Number: 6
Atomic Mass: 12.0107 amu
Melting Point: 3500.0 °C (3773.15 K, 6332.0 °F)
Boiling Point: 4827.0 °C (5100.15 K, 8720.6 °F)
Number of Protons/Electrons: 6
Number of Neutrons: 6
Classification: Non-metal
Crystal Structure: Hexagonal
Density @ 293 K: 2.62 g/cm3
Color: May be black



Hmmmmmm well below the temp of the core of the Earth, that you stated.

Hm, even if you were correct how is 500 degrees "WELL BELOW" as you state?
Also, you have to be aware that the center of the earth has intense pressures, and it would also be a vacumn. This means the point would be even higher.
Add to this the fact you are arguing about something real with something fictitious and there is no point.There is no reason to argue about whether or not the human body would melt inside the Earth. The related topic that it strays from deals with that fact that you believe that in the center of the earth is a cavity where a Red skins goatman lives that walks around with a pitchfork and it houses all the people who have committed sins.
So are you arguing that the body would melt inside the core of the earth or that it would melt inside a cavity inside the earth where all bad people go when they die to live with a Red skinned man with goat legs who hold a pitch fork?

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

I may not be a smart man like you but 500 degrees seems like a lot, I mean it is 25% of 4000.
Hell is not at the center of the Earth. Hell is like the center of the Earth.

This ridiculous discussion was started by you. and even though you know this, you continue? Is there something 'special' about you we should know?

I'll repeat for those that have a short attention span. This thread is about God and and the evils of video games, specifically, 'Oblivion'. This is not "Mr. Wizards Hour of Science of the Illiterate".

[sidecrapin]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Look kiddies, you are getting off topic. I will not entertain (nor will anyone else) continued childish topics. If you have nothing worthwhile to contribute and instead, spout off about things that you know nothing about, please toddle on and go find a "Chucky Cheese" to be with your own kind.

ok so the topic is Fallout 3. A game where you kill monsters who are trying to kill you. Or people who are trying to kill you. In both cases in sane human being would fight back. A game doesn't condone violence because it has absolutely nothing to say about violence. Its just a game, which you play for entertainment. To go on an adventure, to make your own decisions and see the results of them.
It is just another step forward in storytelling.
First there was storytelling by way of mouth. This evolved into books, this went on to evolve into radio, which evolved into television and movies. This has evolved even further into Video games which are a more interactive version of storytelling.
The good and bad people see in judging things is totally based on opinion. Seeing as nowhere in the bible does it mention video games being bad or good, then this is definite that whether they are bad or good is a matter of opinion.
If you don't have much experience with them or are straight away looking for the negative side of things then you have a biased opinion. In which case your opinion shouldn't be considered a valid argument.
Fallout 3 does allow you to kill innocent people and people who may or not be innocent people. Is there a connection between this and real killings? No there is not. Crime has gone down since the introduction of video games, and kids who could possibly be commiting crimes or doing drugs are instead at home playing games with there friends.
So at what point does it stop? Is the board game monopoly evil because it trains children to be monopolistic?? Is checkers evil because it teaches children to take out opponents?
The fact is its all just fun and games and no normal person views games in the way all of you keep pointing them out. It is a pessimistic and biased view.
For instance, there is violence in a game, killing in a game. This is bad because the Bible teaches us it is wrong to kill. Was anyone actually killed? did anyone actually commit murder ?? No. Just as in any book which features the same or similar situation or action nothing bad actually happened. And the fact is the bible features killings and violence too. Does it condone it or glorify it?? No.
So, does Fallout 3 condone violence? No. Does it Glorify it? no. Whether or not something is good or bad is a matter of opinion and interpretation. Just as you interpret killing in fallout 3 as evil and bad a kid of the age of 12 doesn't care, he just sees a monster that was attacking him killed, or a fictional character in a fictional story killed.
It in no way affects his life or anyone elses and it is not a real killing. He knows this, just as everyone else. Noone is trained by video games, noone thinks its real. Anyone who is so far detached from society that they view things this way is messed up anyway.
If you find a murderer who enjoyed say, Grand theft auto, Does this mean GTA is the cause of it?? It is no more the cause of his behavior than his favorite food, Mac N cheese.
It is all in the way we interpret things and form opinions. To look at something and form your own opinion and then enforce your opinion on others as if it is a fact is wrong. Especially if you are going about it in a closed minded, negative way, and are not open to suggestions or answers in opposition to your questions or current opinion.
So, the fact is anything you see negatively in Fallout 3 is simply in your own mind. It is your opinion, and it in no way reflects Fallout 3 of Bethesda, what it DOES reflect is your mind, attitude, and outlook on things.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

Sorry to say Crapin, but everything you just posted has been said several times in this thread buy much smarter gamers than you, no offense. And it has been throughly and decisively rebuked.

But in a Cliff Note answer: The game glorifies murder, prostitution, thievery and immoral behavior. Some players do act out based on the game in real life due to the game being a taste and the next step is the real deal. Imagine the game was about kindness, love and giving. I would not mind a gamer acting out on that kind of game.

[Tyler Sheirm]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

@Hutchins

Sorry if I got the name wrong, I apologize. My comeback to your statement though is, did Jesus ever force anyone to do anything? Or did others choose to follow him? Chose to believe in Him and in God? I do not believe that the Lord ever directly changed someone else's choices.

I read once in a book about Saints in an Encyclopedia at my school, that the Archangel Raphael (I think? Different versions of the name so I think this was the right one) folded someone's legs or something of the sort, when this man did not spread the word or admitted to seeing Michael or an Angel's handprint (or something!)

I do think that this man could have stayed with his decision, but instead CHOSE to spread word of what God or the Archangels wanted him to say. I am sorry if I have this wrong but it must be similar to something..

I do not wish to be called an idiot I simply want to express my opinion.

I see abominations such as Rapelay that should be banned and it is Satanic. But Fallout 3? You have a choice in what you want to do, or what you wish to be.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

No, Jesus never forced anyone, He led by example.

A World Book Encyclopedia is not a King James V. 1611 Bible. Read it then ask a question if one still exists.

A man can own a gun. He can chose to squeeze the trigger is a rage of spewing lead or not. For twenty years, he never fires a single shot. Nothing wrong with the man or the gun. Finally, he lets it rip. Now there is something wrong. Do you want to wait until you are cradling your new born son in your arms for a punk in a lowrider to come and do a drive by, snuffing your young wife and baby child? You think this is OK?

[fatalo]

Re: Fallout 3: Another Satanic, Violent game from "Oblivion" crea

No, Jesus never forced anyone, He led by example.

A World Book Encyclopedia is not a King James V. 1611 Bible. Read it then ask a question if one still exists.

A man can own a gun. He can chose to squeeze the trigger is a rage of spewing lead or not. For twenty years, he never fires a single shot. Nothing wrong with the man or the gun. Finally, he lets it rip. Now there is something wrong. Do you want to wait until you are cradling your new born son in your arms for a punk in a lowrider to come and do a drive by, snuffing your young wife and baby child? You think this is OK?

I think your first statement is the point he is trying to make. Alot of the people around here enforce their opinions on others. Not something jesus did. He was followed because he was good and did good things.
How do you expect other people to be lead by example when Christians on this site are bitter to non christians. How are those people supposed to be saved or helped if they see christians as bitter towards them instead of open armed??

As for your second example, I don't really know what you are related to or drawing an analogy on. I must as missed a previous conversation or something.