[handmaiden]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

Dear baseball mom, as a pastor and the father of a gamer, tf2 is not a game for Satanists.

Of course not! Satanists are already hardcore sinners. When they waste time that should be devoted to The Lord, they are usually eating babies and engaging in anal stimulation. Why would they bother with a stupid, imaginary world of slaughter when they regularly indulge in the real thing? (Some people need things soo clearly spelled out for them, it's kind of sad.)

The game is just fine and the only bad thing I'd say is the blood.

That shows how little you understand the gamer subculture. Blood is the most important good thing about a game in their minds.

Otherwise it let my kids play it with no worry of my kids becoming children of Satan. God probably doesn't endorse the game, but I sure he doesn't resent it.
Sincerely, Jason Ashcraft

Oh? Just how sure ARE you? God gets pretty ticked off about a lot of things in the world that may seem minor to most people. And by those same people's perspective, God seriously overreacts.


He drowned millions of people and possibly a billion animals which aren't even capable of actual sin that one time, remember? Moses was denied entrance to the Promised Land because of one tiny deviation in his response to God's instructions. Turned out God was kind of resentful, and Moses put in over 40 years of loyal service.


God's Holy Word commands the death penalty for picking up sticks on the Sabbath. Picking up sticks seems a lot more innocuous than putting time, energy and money into an activity that glorifies bloodshed and usurps God's Power by resurrecting the dead right and left.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

Dear baseball mom, as a pastor and the father of a gamer, tf2 is not a game for Satanists.

That's exactly what a Satanist would say.

[JasonAshcraft57]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

Dear baseball mom, as a pastor and the father of a gamer, tf2 is not a game for Satanists. The game is just fine and the only bad thing I'd say is the blood. Otherwise it let my kids play it with no worry of my kids becoming children of Satan. God probably doesn't endorse the game, but I sure he doesn't resent it.

Sincerely, Jason Ashcraft

[Didymus Much]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

...Moreover, most contemporary schools in this country have forbidden prayer...

Bzzzt, not true. You're just not allowed to require it, endorse any specific form of it, or disturb others while you do it, because civility. Remember that?

...It's not unlike eating dinner every night without giving a thought as to who paid for it and shopped for it and cooked it...

It went ding. /gamercaring

...I've known a few who would go without a bun for their hotdog if it required cutting the bun themselves...

Uh, that's Landover's fault, for the "no sharps in the gaming threads" rule.

[handmaiden]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

Let me stand up for Spyper.

Anything that gets your gamer-butt out of the chair, I guess.

Reading for over 1000 hours? Did you do this?

Yes. Even counting books that are not the Bible, I am certain that I have read for at least 10,000 hours during my life. My reading has covered such genres as literary fiction, "junk" fiction, biographies, hard science, social science, mythology and philosophy.

If you did it, why do you brag about it?

I didn't brag about it in my response post to Spyper. I am bragging about it in my response to you. My rejoinder to Spyper was intended as a challenge to spur him in the direction of enlargeing the scope of his life experiences.

Everybody prayed in their lifes, as a kid, teen, adult, atleast once in the lifetime.
Everybody that went to school did.

No, you cannot assert with conviction that everyone has prayed in their lives. There are those who have not and do not. Moreover, most contemporary schools in this country have forbidden prayer. You would be aware of that if you had read a history book. History! Another genre that I have read extensively. I won a radio call-in contest because of my reading of history. Thanks for reminding me.

Why would he need to sew something?

Did I indicate a "need" to sew anything? I was using that activity as an example of something substantive that one could do with one's time. Even people passionate about fantasy and science fiction often spend time to put forth the creative work to make costumes.

Gamers click keys and spend money on imaginary costumes and weapons and armor that someone else designed and converted into code. It's not unlike eating dinner every night without giving a thought as to who paid for it and shopped for it and cooked it. This tends to be the Gamer MO. I've known a few who would go without a bun for their hotdog if it required cutting the bun themselves.

When it comes to building part, do you mean building your character, relationship with loved ones or making a tower from LEGOs?

I am all for building the things you listed. Other than the LEGO tower, those things require time, self-reflection and attention to the needs of others. Those second two behaviors are NOT something that I have observed being part of standard Gamer MO.

If you did this, then why do you brag? Go and pray to God?

Again, I did not brag, I challenged. And that second sentence is a dangling, incomplete thought. How does it relate to anything else that you wrote?

[WhoLikeChurch]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

Dear Foreign Johnny,


Obviously you are from foreign climes. What does flexing mean?


Is it some perverse activity involving small animals?


Shame on you sir!


YIC
TT

There's a little thing called "Research"

[Thomas Taylor]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

Stop flexing on me with your praying, and second of all, yes, Soldier in one comics was half naked but still, not naked, and wasn't doing sugestive poses.

Dear Foreign Johnny,


Obviously you are from foreign climes. What does flexing mean?


Is it some perverse activity involving small animals?


Shame on you sir!


YIC
TT

[Brother Gonzalez]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

Stop flexing on me with your praying, and second of all, yes, Soldier in one comics was half naked but still, not naked, and wasn't doing sugestive poses.

"Sugestive" is subjective, don't you think? Maybe if they weren't half naked, no one would think that pose as "sugestive".

[WhoLikeChurch]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

So, in your opinion, pictures of half-naked men cutting suggestive poses is not a form of pornography? Shame on you. You people never cease to astound and flabbergast me.


I will pray for your soul.


YIC
TT

Stop flexing on me with your praying, and second of all, yes, Soldier in one comics was half naked but still, not naked, and wasn't doing sugestive poses.

[Thomas Taylor]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

There are no nudes or pornography featured in any official TF comics.

So, in your opinion, pictures of half-naked men cutting suggestive poses is not a form of pornography? Shame on you. You people never cease to astound and flabbergast me.


I will pray for your soul.


YIC
TT

[WhoLikeChurch]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

Again, we have someone bragging about spending over a thousand hours on a game. Can you name anything else that you have devoted that much time towards?


Have read for over 1000 hours? Prayed? Cooked meals for others? Or even for yourself? Have you painted something, sewn something, built something?


I used to play checkers. If I wandered over to the nearest senior center, I bet I could easily rack up 1000 hours playing that game. Would you be impressed?

Let me stand up for Spyper.
Reading for over 1000 hours? Did you do this? If you did it, why do you brag about it?
Everybody prayed in their lifes, as a kid, teen, adult, atleast once in the lifetime.
Everybody that went to school did.
Why would he need to sew something?
When it comes to building part, do you mean building your character, relationship with loved ones or making a tower from LEGOs?
If you did this, then why do you brag? Go and pray to God?

[WhoLikeChurch]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

I would appreciate it if you would not post links to pornographic material. There are children here.


Now, why don't you go and introduce yourself properly, like big people do.


YIC
TT

There are no nudes or pornography featured in any official TF comics.

[handmaiden]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

Ive played TF2 for nearly 3 years, have over a 1000 hours, and have several rare items, and i dont see anything wrong about it.

I see it as a way to take out anger on other people without raging at them

Again, we have someone bragging about spending over a thousand hours on a game. Can you name anything else that you have devoted that much time towards?


Have read for over 1000 hours? Prayed? Cooked meals for others? Or even for yourself? Have you painted something, sewn something, built something?


I used to play checkers. If I wandered over to the nearest senior center, I bet I could easily rack up 1000 hours playing that game. Would you be impressed?

[Spyper]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

Ive played TF2 for nearly 3 years, have over a 1000 hours, and have several rare items, and i dont see anything wrong about it.

I see it as a way to take out anger on other people without raging at them

[Thomas Taylor]

Re: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY TEAM FORTRESS 2!!!

According to official TF2 comics, none of the mercs are gay.
Read them if you think I'm lying http://www.teamfortress.com/comics.php

I would appreciate it if you would not post links to pornographic material. There are children here.


Now, why don't you go and introduce yourself properly, like big people do.


YIC
TT