[Redeemed Papist]

Re: God hates garrys mod

Hahaha, porn link? And no, it does not correlate as being as bad as lying with Animals. Just that they're both bad. Also, the link you so described as 'porn' combats said verse. I might suggest opening your eyes, but it might be hard under the weight of being pretentious.

Ah just stop being lazy and read all the scripture I posted in this very thread on the subject then push off if that's all you're here for.

[Roukan]

Re: God hates garrys mod

Wow!

In that case I forgive you for quoting a wrong Bible and cherry picking. Shame you're going to Hell.

Leviticus 18:22,23
22Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. 23Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.

It's as bad as having sex with animals.

I can't believe you're so lazy as to not know this and I'm sure some copy/paste nonsense is forthcoming as to why God didn't really mean it about sodomising men but did mean it about having sex with animals.

Hahaha, porn link? And no, it does not correlate as being as bad as lying with Animals. Just that they're both bad. Also, the link you so described as 'porn' combats said verse. I might suggest opening your eyes, but it might be hard under the weight of being pretentious.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: God hates garrys mod

Wow!

In that case I forgive you for quoting a wrong Bible and cherry picking. Shame you're going to Hell.

Leviticus 18:22,23
22Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. 23Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.

It's as bad as having sex with animals.

I can't believe you're so lazy as to not know this and I'm sure some copy/paste nonsense is forthcoming as to why God didn't really mean it about sodomising men but did mean it about having sex with animals.

[Roukan]

Re: God hates garrys mod

Papist:
How does one come across this game, except by searching for it? It's clear you looked directly for things that can be skewed by your hypocritical perception to show your point of view. Garry's mod is a game where you can do anything, whether it's hanging a banner proclaiming your love of God, or for the opposite. Naturally, you looked for the latter. How is it the game's fault, or the creator, when people individually do it? Here's a verse for you:
Matthew 7:5 ESV
You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

You judge people simply based off of what they do, which is defense of a game that is not anti-God, or judge homosexuality and people who partake in abortions.

James 4:11-12 ESV

Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?

There does exist redeemed homosexuals. Please show me a verse that says homosexuality is wrong, that does directly show abhoration towards Homosexuality in it's entirety, and not a whole city where everyone had sex without concern.

porn link deleted

But I forgive you, Papist. For wanton judging of individuals with no regard to what the Lord may think. I pray for you this day that you turn against your views of hate, and embrace everyone regardless of the hole they fill when they lay with their spouse.

P.S.: AIDS is Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome, acquired by not only sexual acts, but the act of fluid exchange of any kind. As a phlebotomist, I could easily get AIDS from someone who squirms and the needle flies out of their arm and into mine. Would that make me a Godless sinner?

[Sister Batt]

Re: God hates garrys mod

Your unsaved opinion about homosexuals is not relevant.

God hates them and directs us to kill them, and states that they will never enter Heaven. That means they are going to Hell unless we help them find Jesus.

It's our job to witness to the homosexuals, and all other sinners like bronies, and Catholics, and furries, and Muslims, and adulterers like Newt Gingrich. That means we have to put aside any personal feelings, put on the Armor of God, and do what needs to be done.

You are right and I'm sorry. I was just worked up at the moment. You are so right.!

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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Gays are unnatural and scary!

Your unsaved opinion about homosexuals is not relevant.

God hates them and directs us to kill them, and states that they will never enter Heaven. That means they are going to Hell unless we help them find Jesus.

It's our job to witness to the homosexuals, and all other sinners like bronies, and Catholics, and furries, and Muslims, and adulterers like Newt Gingrich. That means we have to put aside any personal feelings, put on the Armor of God, and do what needs to be done.

[Sister Batt]

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don't ya dare use that terrible language, ya heathen! You are probably Satan's favorite mind to ravage. So he must of sent you here to poison everyone Christian. Gays are unnatural and scary!

[Dr Laurence Niles]

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To Redeemed Papist,
so, you're saying my brother is disobeying God because he wants to be a rebel?
ok, so what facts do you have to support this, you've never met him?
for your information, he is a firm believer in God, and now I know you're going to say something like "well why does he choose to be a homosexual then?" yeah, once again, it's not a choice, he can't help it, it's just who he is.
oh and what proof do you have that I am a homosexual?
and why do you assume (it makes an ass out of you and me, by the way) that every homosexual has butt-sex, or do you know from your own experiences?

To handmaiden
Yes, you are correct, My brother is Homosexual, and no I wouldn't lead a rebellion against God, first of all I wouldn't even know how to do that, second, it'd be stupid to do that even if I could, what would a small person like me to do God?

I really don't understand why you are having a problem with this.

1) We know what God thinks because the Bible tells us.

2) The Bible tells us homosexuals should be killed (Leviticus 20:13). It is very clear that they should be killed.

So what we see is that God wants them killed.

Now, Leviticus set out statutes (laws) for people to keep if they love Him and want to go to Heaven.

James 2:10 then states that if you break any part of the law you break it ALL.

Therefor being gay (proscribed in Lev 20:13) is as bad as sexual abuse by father to daughter (proscribed in Lev 20:12).

It just so happens that secular people currently think being gay is fine but a father having sex with his daughter is not.

But the secular vogue should not matter to an honest Christian. No one said being a Christian is easy (I had great difficulty when I actually sat down and read the Bible).

I believe in God and it is an important and rewarding part of my life: but it is difficult in the face of people who believe that they are Christians when they really don't know the first thing about the nature of God.

The establishment just wants 'bums on seats' and will tell people what they want to hear to get them into church.

I believe this is dishonest. It is dishonest because people are being lied to about what it means to be a Christian: it is a hard road and people do come here and hate on us because we are honest in our beliefs and we don't shy from the literal meaning of the Bible.

The modern vicar will lie about God to keep his church full: that's wrong, it's deceptive and disrespectful.

I'm sorry for the long post but my faith is important to me and if I can save one person from going to Hell I believe I have fulfilled my purpose.

All the best

[Didymus Much]

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...I know you're going to say something like "well why does he choose to be a homosexual then?" yeah, once again, it's not a choice, he can't help it, it's just who he is...

Once again, I IMPLORE you to read the Bible. Read the words that are there in plain black and white.

To those who claim, "Jesus changed everything, all that Old Testament stuff doesn't apply anymore", well, what did Jesus actually say?

Matthew 5:18 "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled" <<< that there is Jesus talking.

Who are you going to believe? Jesus Himself, or people who might be lying to you for their own nefarious purposes?

On the other hand, curiously, homosexual urges are NOT condemned anywhere (Old or New Testament). Rather, homosexual ACTS are. All your brother has to do is stop having gay sex. Easy, huh?

...it'd be stupid to do that even if I could, what would a small person like me to do God?

But you already ARE rebelling against Jesus and God, by denying what is clearly written in the Bible.

As for this bit of flim-flam from your c&p, "What the Bible specifies may not be what we think of as homosexual at all, partly at least because of the language differences and partly because people are different today.":

Do you believe God is omnipotent? You'd better say yes, because that's what the Bible says. If God is omnipotent, it'd be nothing for Him to change the Bible so that His meaning is clear (True Christians(tm) believe that the KJV is quite clear about God's meaning, and thus does not need to be changed). Now, if you claim the Bible is unclear, that means:

1) God made it that way, and keeps it that way, so that nobody can understand it, and we ALL go to Hell because we are unable to follow His Commands.
2) God cannot change the Bible, which means He is not omnipotent, the Bible is a bunch of lies, and we ALL go to Hell because God has not communicated His wishes clearly.
3) God is not real.

Which of those statements do you agree with?

[i doesnt matter]

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To Redeemed Papist,
so, you're saying my brother is disobeying God because he wants to be a rebel?
ok, so what facts do you have to support this, you've never met him?
for your information, he is a firm believer in God, and now I know you're going to say something like "well why does he choose to be a homosexual then?" yeah, once again, it's not a choice, he can't help it, it's just who he is.
oh and what proof do you have that I am a homosexual?
and why do you assume (it makes an ass out of you and me, by the way) that every homosexual has butt-sex, or do you know from your own experiences?

To handmaiden
Yes, you are correct, My brother is Homosexual, and no I wouldn't lead a rebellion against God, first of all I wouldn't even know how to do that, second, it'd be stupid to do that even if I could, what would a small person like me to do God?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: God hates garrys mod

Right now I would believe that you are walking on your knuckles and throwing feces at your keepers.

If, as you say, you believe in God, specifically the one who reveals Himself in the Bible, aren't you just a teeny bit concerned about what an Allpowerful, supremely wrathful type of divinity might choose to do with you after a lifetime of flouting His commandments and authority?

I do hope that you weren't planning to lead a rebellion against Him because He consigns people like your brother --He is the one who is a homosexual, correct?--to everlasting, agonizing torment in Hell. Those sorts of protests never end well, God always seems to win. I guess, being allknowing and allpowerful does often confer an advantage. But hey-- you have the knucklewalking and feces throwing. Let me know how it goes.


Faceticously Yours,

Handmaiden

It's not just his brother that's a faggot, sister. They're both fudge nudgers.

[handmaiden]

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here you go again with this imaginary friend, you know, this whole argument started by me saying that I believed in God. God. and you somehow got this idea in your head, that I created a friend, a god, in my head. no, i didn't, I have clearly stated in the past that I acknowledge that this god says things I do not believe in, yes the very god I believe in! it's the same one! I know its hard to believe, but just try for a moment, why don't ya? yeah, we're both talking about the same god, nowhere does it indicate that I believe in different god, I said I disagreed with him on some things, not "I created a god in my head cause I disagree with the other one" as you seem to believe.

Right now I would believe that you are walking on your knuckles and throwing feces at your keepers.

If, as you say, you believe in God, specifically the one who reveals Himself in the Bible, aren't you just a teeny bit concerned about what an Allpowerful, supremely wrathful type of divinity might choose to do with you after a lifetime of flouting His commandments and authority?

I do hope that you weren't planning to lead a rebellion against Him because He consigns people like your brother --He is the one who is a homosexual, correct?--to everlasting, agonizing torment in Hell. Those sorts of protests never end well, God always seems to win. I guess, being allknowing and allpowerful does often confer an advantage. But hey-- you have the knucklewalking and feces throwing. Let me know how it goes.


Faceticously Yours,

Handmaiden

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: God hates garrys mod

No. You copy paste stuff dreamed up by faggots who want to deny that gayness is a dreadful abomination because they love taking things in their butt and wish with all their hearts that God didn't say He hates gays.

But He did. Deal with it!

Romans 1:20-32
20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Oh look. Romans 1 in context.

[i doesnt matter]

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Over and over, we're told that homosexual sex is immoral according to Christianity, that the Bible condemns homosexual behavior, that gays are performing abomination. Yet the scriptures that are put forth to "prove" this fact are vague to say the least. There are two primary places in the Bible where you'll find scriptures that seem to specify homosexuality: the Mosaic Law portion in the first five books of the Christian Bible, and in many of Paul's writings in the New Testament. Homosexuality and Mosaic Law
The single scripture most clearly condemning homosexual behavior is Leviticus 20:13: "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."
That sounds pretty straightforward: gay sex=execution. But is that really what Christianity believes?
Well, yes, because the Old Testament is part of the Christian Bible. This scripture, the evilness of the men of Sodom and Gomorrah, and several other scriptures in this older part of the Bible all revile homosexuality. I want to find otherwise, but it's pretty clear. Is that all there is to it?
No. Christianity states that the New Testament supersedes the Old Testament. The eye for an eye" rule was superseded by "do unto others." And Christ specifically stated that He marked a turning point in the worship of God, and that the old ways were swept away when He entered the world.
So what about the New Testament?
Paul on Homosexuality
Jesus never directly addresses the issue of homosexuality. Never. Not once. He addresses many other things, like idolatry and greed and priorities and loving one another, but he doesn't speak a word about the gay lifestyle. Paul, on the other hand, does:
1 Corinthians 6:9-10: "Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor practicing homosexuals nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."
Okay, that looks pretty straightforward. But in the original Greek, what is here translated as "practicing homosexuals" actually refers to a catamite, a young boy who is used sexually by an older man. Because the term is hard to translate into modern English with the original sense intact, the word "effeminate" is used in some translations.
Now it doesn't look so straightforward. Besides, consider this:
Sexually immoral
Idolater
Adulterer
Male prostitute (who were typically young boys)
Thieves
Greedy
Drunkard
Slanderer
Swindler
This is a list of the actions that are EQUATED to not homosexuality, but the keeping of a catamite, in Paul's letter. Equated. What do they have in common? They all hurt other people. Adult homosexuality is NOT in that list. Paul is condemning something a little different, something we can all agree with the condemnation of today.
Notice you don't hear televangelists railing about the slanderers in the world and how the slanderers should be removed from the face of the earth because they are evil. Or how God hates drunkards and greedy people. Are they really just men of their times, as all men are? As the men who wrote the Bible were?
In the societies in which our modern Bible was written, homosexuality existed. But it had a very different face. Let's keep that in mind when we read about how Christianity condemns homosexuals. What the Bible specifies may not be what we think of as homosexual at all, partly at least because of the language differences and partly because people are different today. At the very least, condemnation of homosexuality is nowhere near as clear-cut as many Christians would have us believe.



and I rest my case

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: God hates garrys mod

but why are gays bad? believe me, it's not a choice, it's not something you can change, I know from experience

God hates them. That's the end of the discussion. Are you suggesting that God would just hate gays for arbitrary reasons? God wants them to be killed. Who are you to question God?

Pray the gay away.