[keseos]

Re: CW's New Hit, "Supernatural": Teaching Children Salt is the New God

Thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule of making a living by promoting paganism to the uneducated masses.

You will prehaps be able to tell us, with reference to KJV 1611, how this "magic" with salt actually works, and how the salt "knows" the difference between ghost/vengeful spirits, and demons...

For your information Latin is the language of the Anti-Christ, the vicar of Rome - we speak American - a language we can all understand - what's your language?

you speak English, American is not a language. Latin is the language that the bible was originally written in. Salt can't tell the difference between spirt and vengeful spirit because to it they are the same, for demons you have to do things a bit more special. Also it is not paganism, and in fact on the show they have fought/killed multiple gods from all sorts of religions. And please understand that supernatural is the work of fiction but it still sticks to the lore of the supernatural including biblical lore. And my language is English.

[Elmer G. White]

Re: CW's New Hit, "Supernatural": Teaching Children Salt is the New God

you speak English, American is not a language.

Considering that, it is most interesting that the American language is the topic of great works in linguistics in book format written by eminent scholars of language. Please, explain why your non-referenced utterance about the status of the American tongue would be more valid than the classic by H.L. Mencken?

Latin is the language that the bible was originally written in.

How interesting! Again, from whence does this valuable piece of information derive? You're in opposition to the millions of people who have studied the Bible in its three original languages.

The original languages of the Bible are three: Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek.

What about Latin, then?! Oh, dear: it is one of the first translations (along with the Peshitta and the Gothic Bible).

During the 1st century Greek remains the language of the small Christian community, but with the spread of the faith through the Roman empire a Latin version of the Bible texts is needed in western regions. By the second century there is one such version in use in north Africa and another in Italy.

These versions become corrupted and others are added, until by the 4th century - in the words of St Jerome, the leading biblical scholar of the time - there are 'almost as many texts as manuscripts'.

In 382 the pope, Damasus, commissions Jerome to provide a definitive Latin version. In his monastery at Bethlehem, tended by aristocratic virgins, the saint [<- never mind that word, it is Papist nonsense but the actual content is still correct] produces the Vulgate. This eventually becomes established as the Bible of the whole western church until the Reformation.

By the time the Vulgate is complete (in about 405), the barbarian Goths also have their own version of parts of the Bible - thanks to the astonishing missionary effort of Ulfilas.

Have you ever considered fact-checking? Ignorance can be fun but God will tolerate it only for a little while.

Acts 17:30
And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

...something....

Ignorance in its simple form can be cured by education but the combination of being ignorant and flaunting it with grandiloquence is much harder. Of course, it is always good for the unsaved trash to see how Jesus deals with them:

1 Peter 2:15
For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[keseos]

Re: CW's New Hit, "Supernatural": Teaching Children Salt is the New God

Considering that, it is most interesting that the American language is the topic of great works in linguistics in book format written by eminent scholars of language. Please, explain why your non-referenced utterance about the status of the American tongue would be more valid than the classic by H.L. Mencken?


How interesting! Again, from whence does this valuable piece of information derive? You're in opposition to the millions of people who have studied the Bible in its three original languages. What about Latin, then?! Oh, dear: it is one of the first translations (along with the Peshitta and the Gothic Bible). Have you ever considered fact-checking? Ignorance can be fun but God will tolerate it only for a little while.

Acts 17:30
And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
Ignorance in its simple form can be cured by education but the combination of being ignorant and flaunting it with grandiloquence is much harder. Of course, it is always good for the unsaved trash to see how Jesus deals with them:

1 Peter 2:15
For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

Latin is a member of the broad family of Italic languages. Its alphabet, the Latin alphabet, emerged from the Old Italic alphabets, which in turn were derived from the Greek and Phoenician scripts.
Americans speak English. "American" is not a language; "American English" is a dialect of English. English is the most widely spoken language is the United States and is the common language used by the federal government. And where did you get the "something" from? It wasn't in any of my posts.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: CW's New Hit, "Supernatural": Teaching Children Salt is the New God

They don't use salt to fight demons in fact they use it to fight ghost/vengeful spirits, for demons they use holy water and exorcism verses in Latin.

Pray tell, how does the salt know to transform from its natural properties of flavor enhancement and food preparation to its supernatural properties of spirit extermination? Is there something in the spirit that triggers an otherwise dormant gene, or does Satan himself conjure the effects for his amusement?

Holy water, if anything, repels reasonable people wishing to avoid feces in their water (holy water contaminated with fecal matter: study).

In fact in the show they have fought a representation of lucifer and his demons. This show actually follows bible lore and other lores to fight all kinds of monsters.

Nonsense. If they had actually followed the Bible, they'd know from the events surrounding Moses and the Great Wizarding Duel that no one can best the Lord thy God (cf Exodus 7:22).

[keseos]

Re: CW's New Hit, "Supernatural": Teaching Children Salt is the New God

Pray tell, how does the salt know to transform from its natural properties of flavor enhancement and food preparation to its supernatural properties of spirit extermination? Is there something in the spirit that triggers an otherwise dormant gene, or does Satan himself conjure the effects for his amusement?

Holy water, if anything, repels reasonable people wishing to avoid feces in their water (holy water contaminated with fecal matter: study).



Nonsense. If they had actually followed the Bible, they'd know from the events surrounding Moses and the Great Wizarding Duel that no one can best the Lord thy God (cf Exodus 7:22).

it doesn't change because that's what it always has been able to do, it all depends on how you use it. And what does that have to do with this might I ask. You are aware that this is based over a good thousand years ago from those events correct. And if you took your time and watch season 4 in this season is where it gets biblical and has the start of the apocalypse in it ( just remember this is fiction nothing is based on real life events, as to say to our knowledge it didn't happen) but before you went and tried to make this seem like something that is wrong and evil but it's not, what it is though is not something children/under 15 year old should be watching nor do I expect anyone on here to accept it but do not ridicule it because I will say this, your religion your beliefs and especially what region you're from is ridiculed because of the way you tend to act the way you do things. So please when and if you want someone to change there ways, you yourself must be in their show after all isn't that what the classic How To Kill A Mockingbird about, seeing from another's perspective and how they think and what they believe or do because to them it's not wrong it's their own judgment. Because when you don't do that which a lot of you don't you come across very badly and in fact turn people away, instead of giving comfort you give hostility.

[keseos]

Re: CW's New Hit, "Supernatural": Teaching Children Salt is the New God

This is simply a show about two brothers who go about killing evil creatures and saving people, even if they cannot find a biblical way of dealing with certain creatures they go and study about what they are facing. Oh and one last thing Mary what does homersexurality mean, did you mean heterosexuality(straight) or homosexuality(gay) (plus what did my post have anything to do with my sexuality? "Latin is a member of the broad family of Italic languages. Its alphabet, the Latin alphabet, emerged from the Old Italic alphabets, which in turn were derived from the Greek and Phoenician scripts.
Americans speak English. "American" is not a language; "American English" is a dialect of English. English is the most widely spoken language is the United States and is the common language used by the federal government. And where did you get the "something" from? It wasn't in any of my posts."

[Elmer G. White]

Re: CW's New Hit, "Supernatural": Teaching Children Salt is the New God

Darling, you made an unreferenced claim as follows:

Latin is the language that the bible was originally written in.

I humored you and gave you a referenced reply that shows with a very high probability that your claim was erroneous. Latin is, in fact, not the original language of the Bible.

How interesting! Again, from whence does this valuable piece of information derive? You're in opposition to the millions of people who have studied the Bible in its three original languages.

[Hebrew.
Aramaic.
Greek.]

What about Latin, then?! Oh, dear: it is one of the first translations (along with the Peshitta and the Gothic Bible). Have you ever considered fact-checking?

Instead of doing some fact-checking you turned into some understandable but still useless tactics of pseudodiagnostics (taking some information irrelevant to the issue as relevant), using it through confirmation bias (dismissing information that contradicts your preconceptions and concentrating on the data that you think supports you without any notion of alternative hypotheses) by turning into writing systems instead of the languages.

"Latin is a member of the broad family of Italic languages. Its alphabet, the Latin alphabet, emerged from the Old Italic alphabets, which in turn were derived from the Greek and Phoenician scripts"

Indeed, Latin is a member of the Italic group of Indo-European languages. Greek is an independent member of the same Indo-European family of languages, although there have been attempts to connect it to the more eastern branches with the Greco-Aryan and Greco-Armenian hypotheses. This has absolutely nothing to do with the original language of the Bible, of course.

The writing systems of two totally different languages can be the same. For instance, American also uses the Latin alphabet (and is indeed also Indo-European). John 1:1 in American is as follows:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

In Navajo, another language written in the same Latin alphabet, it goes like this:
Hodeeyáadi Saad jílį́, Saad éí Diyin God bił hojílǫ́, índa Saad éí Diyin God jílį́

Now, if the writing system = mutual intelligibility or being the same language, the examples above should be readily understandable to the average semi-literate American. Obviously, they are not.

In the Greek original the verse is as follows:
Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος, καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν, καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος. οὗτος ἦν ἐν ἀρχῇ πρὸς τὸν θεόν.
We can transliterate it. "En arche en ho logos, kai ho logos en pros ton Theon, kai Theos en ho logos. Outos en en arche pros ton Theon."

In Latin:
In principio erat [no definite article]Verbum, et Verbum erat apud Deum, et Deus erat Verbum. 2 Hoc erat in principio apud Deum.

Some of the categories of grammar remain the same in Greek (classical) and Latin. However, in addition to the cases they shared (nominative, accusative, dative, genitive and remnants of vocative), Latin also had the ablative. In conjugation, the Latin system was radically more simple than the Greek one. The Greek had still the mediopassive, the optative and the augment to form past tenses. It also had the aorist. As you can see, despite the transliteration, the vocabulary is very divergent. arche vs. principio (never mind the cases at the moment), logos vs. verbum, the definite article that Greek has but Latin doesn't, etc. etc.

All this does not make you an idiot. But your incapability of seeing your mistakes and admitting them does.

American then? You failed to assess why your claim would be better than the claim of a respecting linguistic expert. There are many things to consider. You might want to do that. It may also teach you a thing or two.

• Swedish is mutually highly intelligible with Norwegian. Do you consider them separate languages and why?
• What about written Danish and Norwegian, almost 100% similar. Are they the same language?
• Are Dutch and Flemish the same language?
• What about Afrikaans? The Dutch understand it fairly well while the Afrikaaners have more trouble with Dutch. Are these separate languages? They diverged later than English and proper American.

-> As you can see, nor the writing systems not intelligibility make a language. A language is also dictated by political divisions. What could be further from the God-fearing American than the royalist Scouser? A typical phrase in the spoken vernacular (a form of English, not a form of American) would be as follows: 'Lost a tenner down the alehouse, proper devoed, lad.' I have no clue of what sin-infested thoughts that would transmit!

That is not proper American.

What you need to do is as follows:

• When you have a strong opinion that you wish to transmit to those who oppose you (such as Jesus), you may find out that a plain assertion does not do the job.
• You need to do some actual research and not just cling unto the first piece of information (such as the writing systems) that seems to support you.
• You need to consider other hypotheses apart from your preconceptions. The most important one of these is "what if I am wrong". It is called falcification.
• When you like something, such as a silly video claim, you are at the moment seeking confirmation for its "goodness", not examining it in an objective manner. You need to try to see things as your opposition does.
• You need to support your subjective opinions with objective data, preferable referenced.
• This will take an effort and time and it will change you.
• Don't turn this into some tu quoque contest (you should know what that means as you know your Latin).

It may help you find Jesus. Until that time, further interaction with you will be as useless as it has been hitherto.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[Dana723]

Re: CW's New Hit, "Supernatural": Teaching Children Salt is the New God

And my language is English.

I've read your posts and I disagree. You abuse the English language worse than a Catlick priest abuses an altar boy.

[keseos]

Re: CW's New Hit, "Supernatural": Teaching Children Salt is the New God

I've read your posts and I disagree. You abuse the English language worse than a Catlick priest abuses an altar boy.

How can you abuse a language, and its catholic not catlick and you are aware it happens just as much in Christen churches as it does Catholic Churches you may not believe so but yes it does. My English is perfectly fine and more grammatically correct and spelled correct more than some on here.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: CW's New Hit, "Supernatural": Teaching Children Salt is the New God

season 4 + two brothers who go about killing evil creatures and saving people, even if they cannot find a biblical way of dealing with certain creatures they go and study about what they are facing

How can they study evil without The Bible? And why would I be interested in anything packaged as "season 1" "season 2" "season 3" where important elements would be held over? Salvation is made known as soon as possible when actual evil is confronted. Holy water is a good example. Although there is a product manufactured and sold as "holy water" no water is ever holy in reality as distinguished from any other object or mineral meaning that its application has about as much effect as prodding with a bit of 300-year-old toenail.

Ephesians 1:17–2:10

God raised Christ from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places. This places Christ far above all principality and power and might and dominion and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come. ALL THINGS (not some things) are under His feet.

How then can someone "confronting evil" find a specimen against which power and authority on such a scale is not effective? The only answer could be if no confrontation was taking place. Holy water is 100% ineffective against everything and no-one wishing to confront evil would use the stuff. God continues:

Christians, who were once dead in trespasses and sins resulting from our walk according to the course of this world and according to the prince of the power of the air, have been born again. Revivified in defiance of the spirit now active in the children of disobedience. And we know this because we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling desires of the flesh and mind. Just like any evildoer! But God in His mercy and His great love quickened us together with Christ. Now that we are raised up we sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus.

The Bible is explicit that everyone else is evil. Sprinklers of the "holy water" are evil. They are not the workmanship of God in Christ and as such have no authority over evil regardless of how much gibberish they study or how many books they buy off Deepak Chopra. The message of Salvation is all that's required to confront evil and that is found in one place only. The Bible.

The Bible is not lacking the information to deal with "certain creatures" (whatever that means) because The Bible conveys the only message of triumph not only over the principalities powers manifest here on earth but over all powers everywhere in the universe. But your people don't know that.

Therefore they are powerless. So why would I need to see season 4?

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: CW's New Hit, "Supernatural": Teaching Children Salt is the New God

They don't use salt to fight demons in fact they use it to fight ghost/vengeful spirits, for demons they use holy water and exorcism verses in Latin. In fact in the show they have fought a representation of lucifer and his demons. This show actually follows bible lore and other lores to fight all kinds of monsters.

So which episode did Jesus appear in?

This show has nothing to do with Jesus and is simple a homersexualistical recruitment drive for those queers who choose to be be attracted to the boyishly handsome, charismatic two leads with obvious screen chemistry.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they did not go to each other’s gay weddings

You see Jesus hates the gays and wants the all dead. Don’t believe me?

READ THE BIBLE(KJV1611).

Leviticus 18:22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
Leviticus 20:13 "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
Romans 1:26-27 "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."

YIC

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: CW's New Hit, "Supernatural": Teaching Children Salt is the New God

Ghosts and vengeful spirits ARE demons.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: CW's New Hit, "Supernatural": Teaching Children Salt is the New God

Ghosts and vengeful spirits ARE demons.

And not slugs, and therefore, not susceptible to salt.

[keseos]

Re: CW's New Hit, "Supernatural": Teaching Children Salt is the New God

How can they study evil without The Bible? And why would I be interested in anything packaged as "season 1" "season 2" "season 3" where important elements would be held over? Salvation is made known as soon as possible when actual evil is confronted. Holy water is a good example. Although there is a product manufactured and sold as "holy water" no water is ever holy in reality as distinguished from any other object or mineral meaning that its application has about as much effect as prodding with a bit of 300-year-old toenail.

Ephesians 1:17–2:10

God raised Christ from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places. This places Christ far above all principality and power and might and dominion and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come. ALL THINGS (not some things) are under His feet.
How then can someone "confronting evil" find a specimen against which power and authority on such a scale is not effective? The only answer could be if no confrontation was taking place. Holy water is 100% ineffective against everything and no-one wishing to confront evil would use the stuff. God continues:
Christians, who were once dead in trespasses and sins resulting from our walk according to the course of this world and according to the prince of the power of the air, have been born again. Revivified in defiance of the spirit now active in the children of disobedience. And we know this because we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling desires of the flesh and mind. Just like any evildoer! But God in His mercy and His great love quickened us together with Christ. Now that we are raised up we sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus.
The Bible is explicit that everyone else is evil. Sprinklers of the "holy water" are evil. They are not the workmanship of God in Christ and as such have no authority over evil regardless of how much gibberish they study or how many books they buy off Deepak Chopra. The message of Salvation is all that's required to confront evil and that is found in one place only. The Bible.
The Bible is not lacking the information to deal with "certain creatures" (whatever that means) because The Bible conveys the only message of triumph not only over the principalities powers manifest here on earth but over all powers everywhere in the universe. But your people don't know that.
Therefore they are powerless. So why would I need to see season 4?

And not slugs, and therefore, not susceptible to salt.

Ghosts and vengeful spirits ARE demons.

So which episode did Jesus appear in?
This show has nothing to do with Jesus and is simple a homersexualistical recruitment drive for those queers who choose to be be attracted to the boyishly handsome, charismatic two leads with obvious screen chemistry.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they did not go to each other’s gay weddings
You see Jesus hates the gays and wants the all dead. Don’t believe me?
READ THE BIBLE(KJV1611).
Leviticus 18:22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
Leviticus 20:13 "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
Romans 1:26-27 "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."
YIC

oh I'm sorry I must of missed of missed the chapter of the bible where it says about how to kill werewolves, vampires, wendigos, genies, ghouls, leviathans, Nephilim, shapeshifter, Djinn, dragons, phoenix, "jefferson starships", khan worms, skinwalkers, nachzehrer and so on. do you even know how to spell homosexual (cause it definitely isn't homersexural or homersexualistical), they are straight on the show and have been show/known for them to sleep with women, and the fact that you suggested that two brothers are gay lovers is sickening not because of the gay part but because of the brother part. considering they have threatened Lucifer, Michael and god/his sister. killed Uriel, Zachariah, Ezekiel, Naomi and many more angels. both brother have escaped hell when dean spent 40 years (4 months our time) and sam 180 years (over a year in the cage with lucifer as his punching bag, and survived). and Jesus was not there to anyone's knowledge because they stopped the apocalypse. and god later in the series has nearly died. and this is a demon and this is a ghost see the difference now.
oh and season 4 if my memory serves right is wear the holy Molotov (using holy oil) Michael. in fact Sam and Dean are the vessels for both Lucifer and Micheal they are the only ones with bodies strong enough to hold them. oh and each actor is happily married to their wives. in the show they use salt because in a lot of cultures it is seen an purity and also used to purify human corpses, to kill a spirit/ghost, they also cannot pass over salt lines if put by a door or if made into a circle to protect someone.
and where did that "something" come from because it wasn't my replies.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: CW's New Hit, "Supernatural": Teaching Children Salt is the New God

in the show they use salt because in a lot of cultures it is seen an purity and also used to purify human corpses, to kill a spirit/ghost, they also cannot pass over salt lines if put by a door or if made into a circle to protect someone.

Are you sure you're not confusing the Bible with SpongeBob?