[OneFailure]

Re: Disney's Frozen - an orgy of sex

Subject #1:
Quote#2 to be assessed for subject matter:My reply is color coded for your benefit.

• #1: "Interpretation" of the Bible.
• #2: Trying to provide evidence with circular reasoning (a fallacy). "The film is good if it itself tells you that it is good."

#1 is about the Bible, #2 is about a film allegedly testifying of its own quality (that is why it is circular reasoning). Please explain how these two subjects (#1 and #2) are exactly 100% the same.


As True Christians™, we are familiar with this phenomenon. We do feel akin to Paul.

Romans 2:20
An instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, which hast the form of knowledge and of the truth in the law.

Please, refrain from spreading non-Biblical links.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

The movie and the bible arent the same but that doesnt mean that we should avoid good films or fear monger over how evil they might be when they really arent. That's all I'm saying.

[Brother Gonzalez]

Re: Disney's Frozen - an orgy of sex

The movie and the bible arent the same but that doesnt mean that we should avoid good films or fear monger over how evil they might be when they really arent. That's all I'm saying.

How many times are you going to fail to understand the point?


Really boy, please understand the proof of a film being good or evil cannot be in the film itself. it has to be necessarily analyzed from the outside, and it can be done by several methods. One of them, is analyzing it with the Bible. This is the only method that is reliable in making you stay safe and out of hell, but there are others.


Otherwise, you are implying that the reality outside us is independent from the observer, so the observer can grasp said reality without applying any ideology or preconception to it. Everyone watching the same film should get the same emotions, feelings, ideas, and analysis of that film.


Problem: it doesn't happen. Philosophers have been writing for centuries about this, trying to find an explanation on how the same object can be seen in so many different ways. They started a pseudo science called semiotics out of this.


We know the answer, and it's in the Bible: demons get in the way. So when Charles Sanders Peirce talks about sign, object and interpretant, we know there is a thing (object, like the movie) a person (the interpretant) and demons in the way (signs, as you may have deducted)


Christian Semiotics recommends you to watch movies with a Bible on your side, to guide you through the demons that come out of the film, and make you safely reach the end of the movie free of sin.


Disclaimer: Christian Semiotics are only a branch of Creation Science still under development. It cannot guarantee 100% salvation unless you are already a True Christian, meaning you are already saved.
You cannot take Christian Semiotics 101 unless you have studied the Bible at least 6 years.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Disney's Frozen - an orgy of sex

That reminds me of a lovely hymn.

Do you want a Pilot? Signal then to Jesus!
Do you want a Pilot? Bid Him come aboard.
For He will safely guide across the ocean wide
Until at last you reach the heavenly harbour.

[Collinslaw]

Re: Disney's Frozen - an orgy of sex

If that Scripture says wife = husband as you claim, then it also says wife = husband = God, and you don't think that's heresy?

Please, we all should share one mind in Christ being that Jesus is the Head and Bridegroom irrespective of our denominations, so please let's avoid debates and argume

[Collinslaw]

Re: Disney's Frozen - an orgy of sex

Please, we all should share one mind in Christ being that Jesus is the Head and Bridegroom irrespective of our denominations, so please let's avoid debates and argume

this message is only for the Christians on this forum,I didn't mean to quote the unbelievers,shaalom

[OneFailure]

Re: Disney's Frozen - an orgy of sex

How many times are you going to fail to understand the point?


Really boy, please understand the proof of a film being good or evil cannot be in the film itself. it has to be necessarily analyzed from the outside, and it can be done by several methods. One of them, is analyzing it with the Bible. This is the only method that is reliable in making you stay safe and out of hell, but there are others.


Otherwise, you are implying that the reality outside us is independent from the observer, so the observer can grasp said reality without applying any ideology or preconception to it. Everyone watching the same film should get the same emotions, feelings, ideas, and analysis of that film.


Problem: it doesn't happen. Philosophers have been writing for centuries about this, trying to find an explanation on how the same object can be seen in so many different ways. They started a pseudo science called semiotics out of this.


We know the answer, and it's in the Bible: demons get in the way. So when Charles Sanders Peirce talks about sign, object and interpretant, we know there is a thing (object, like the movie) a person (the interpretant) and demons in the way (signs, as you may have deducted)


Christian Semiotics recommends you to watch movies with a Bible on your side, to guide you through the demons that come out of the film, and make you safely reach the end of the movie free of sin.


Disclaimer: Christian Semiotics are only a branch of Creation Science still under development. It cannot guarantee 100% salvation unless you are already a True Christian, meaning you are already saved.
You cannot take Christian Semiotics 101 unless you have studied the Bible at least 6 years.

Theres nothing in it that is against the bible. It's an innocent movie about two sisters and one has ice powers and the other has to save their town from freezing with her sisters help after the sister froze it.


That's it that's the story...nothing against the bible at all

[Isabella White]

Re: Disney's Frozen - an orgy of sex

Theres nothing in it that is against the bible. It's an innocent movie about two sisters and one has ice powers and the other has to save their town from freezing with her sisters help after the sister froze it.

So, then, you now admit to , this collection of believers, that this Hellywood movie is about the unly abomination known as WITCHCRAFT!!

Deuteronomy 18:10-12
10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.
11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord: and because of these abominations the Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

Time is almost up for you, Sonny. You had better get right with or you will be spending your eternity in a place that will never freeze over. is your future, unless you seek as your and . Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

[OneFailure]

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So, then, you now admit to , this collection of believers, that this Hellywood movie is about the unly abomination known as WITCHCRAFT!!

Deuteronomy 18:10-12
10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.
11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord: and because of these abominations the Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

Time is almost up for you, Sonny. You had better get right with or you will be spending your eternity in a place that will never freeze over. is your future, unless you seek as your and . Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Dont get me started on the witch craft argument

[Isabella White]

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Dont get me started on the witch craft argument

A-ha! The Holy Ghost is convicting you and now you're being made to feel uncomfortable!

John 16:8 "And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment".

The writing is on the wall, dear Failure. Unless you repent and stop this foolish nonsense, then you are DOOMED.

John 3:19-21:
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

[OneFailure]

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A-ha! The Holy Ghost is convicting you and now you're being made to feel uncomfortable!

John 16:8 "And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment".

The writing is on the wall, dear Failure. Unless you repent and stop this foolish nonsense, then you are DOOMED.

John 3:19-21:
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

Frozen doesnt have anything to do with witch craft. There are no witches that star in it and no witches direct in it.


Also Elsa' powers arent necessarily magic they are more elemental than anything. Elementalists are different from magic users since elementalists are described being born with powers while magic users learn their power when they are older.


You want to hear about a bad witchcraft movie look no further than Harry Potter. Harry Potter is alot worse than frozen

[Elmer G. White]

Re: Disney's Frozen - an orgy of sex

Dear Sinner,

Let us teach you a lesson.

You want to hear about a bad witchcraft movie look no further than Harry Potter. Harry Potter is alot worse than frozen

Once again, this is the fallacy of special pleading (Frozen judged by criteria different from Mr. Potter) as well as 'two wrongs make a right' fallacy. We are trying to tell you that evil movies (Frozen) are still evil even if in your opinion something was more evil. This is a lesson because regarding Catholicism, you've yourself just written as follows:

Oh my gosh 🙄 not all Catholics are sexual abusers. Yes there are alot of bad eggs in Catholicism however some that are sex abusers doesnt mean that they are all sexual abusers.

There are evangelicals that are sex abusers (dont deny it because it's TRUE look it up) so going bu your logic we must condemn all of Catholicism but evangelicals will get only a slap on the wrist. That's hypocritical and being a hypocrite is a HUGE NO NO to God.

Let me make it clear that I'm not defending the religion. They are sinful people and I get that however the Notre dame went beyond being a catholic image as it was also a symbol for christianity as well. I'm just saying we must condemn all sex abusers in every religion not just Catholicism

...we are just saying that we must condemn all non-Christian supernatural movies not just Harry Potter.

Jesus has a huge NONO for YOU .

Matthew 23:13
But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[OneFailure]

Re: Disney's Frozen - an orgy of sex

Dear Sinner,

Let us teach you a lesson.Once again, this is the fallacy of special pleading (Frozen judged by criteria different from Mr. Potter) as well as 'two wrongs make a right' fallacy. We are trying to tell you that evil movies (Frozen) are still evil even if in your opinion something was more evil. This is a lesson because regarding Catholicism, you've yourself just written as follows:
...we are just saying that we must condemn all non-Christian supernatural movies not just Harry Potter.

Jesus has a huge NONO for YOU .

Matthew 23:13
But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

You replied to that comment In the wrong place....

I'm not criticizing you I'm just letting you

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Disney's Frozen - an orgy of sex

Please, we all should share one mind in Christ being that Jesus is the Head and Bridegroom irrespective of our denominations, so please let's avoid debates and argume

Not sure about argume, whether you intended a citron or a bean? On with the real point of your confusion however, one mind in Christ.

I Corinthians 2:16 Who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

Paul is discussing the differences of opinion held by individuals within the Body of Christ. That would be similar to the difference of perception between my foot and my nose with regard to a rose. It's the same plant and I'm the same person but the experience is different.

The question of whether I like drinking poison is different. It kills all of me, foot and nose alike. There can't be one me that likes drinking poison and another me who doesn't. That would be two different people. One of them dead. Such people could be grouped into denominations, the quick and the dead.

The mind in question here is that of perceiving reality correctly and precisely. We speak of someone having "nous" and that is what Paul refers to. The perception is of sound foundational thinking. In the case of Jesus, whether you agree with Him or not, Christianity is founded on what He taught. The Church, thought of as a single entity, is founded on His person and often referred to as The Body of Christ. We are its members as noses and feet are members of earthly bodies but there is one mind. One perception of reality.

Denominations exist because either different foundations are used or because contrary doctrines have been grafted on. Where these contradict Christ, obviously, there is no Christianity. The denominations therefore are denominations of something that's NOT Christianity.

I Corinthians 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

You can read the whole passage here - I Corinthians 1:27 – 3:18.

[Elmer G. White]

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You replied to that comment In the wrong place....

I'm not criticizing you I'm just letting you

Of course I didn't. I even referred to the fact that the other thread was about Catholicism. We are consistent all over even between threads. You, on the other hand, are actively asking for everyone to condemn all acts of sexual evil on the other thread but here you are actively promoting special pleading, a fallacy, when it gomes to your favorite movie. It can't be both ways if you want to be consistent or persuasive. Please tell us if greater evils (Harry Potter/Catholicism) make lesser evils (Frozen/other abusers) innocent?

You failed the lesson and even failed to understand that it was a lesson. Jesus has some more words for you.

Job 27:8
For what is the hope of the hypocrite, though he hath gained, when God taketh away his soul?

As you can see (or can you?), Jesus does not endorse special pleading/two wrongs make a right fallacies. Do you?


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[OneFailure]

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Of course I didn't. I even referred to the fact that the other thread was about Catholicism. We are consistent all over even between threads. You, on the other hand, are actively asking for everyone to condemn all acts of sexual evil on the other thread but here you are actively promoting special pleading, a fallacy, when it gomes to your favorite movie. It can't be both ways if you want to be consistent or persuasive. Please tell us if greater evils (Harry Potter/Catholicism) make lesser evils (Frozen/other abusers) innocent?

You failed the lesson and even failed to understand that it was a lesson. Jesus has some more words for you.

Job 27:8
For what is the hope of the hypocrite, though he hath gained, when God taketh away his soul?

As you can see (or can you?), Jesus does not endorse special pleading/two wrongs make a right fallacies. Do you?


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

But you replied to a comment in the thread about Notre dame though....just saying