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  • eliot mayfield
    God Squad
    True Christian™
    • Sep 2006
    • 9324

    #1

    Another reason why gays shouldn't be allowed to have children

    This is what happens when gay people have kids. The state should take away every gay couples kids right now!
    This stunning image of a BMI Airbus flying past the moon was captured on Wednesday night. The aircraft are configured with a maximum of 130 seats in a flexible business/economy cabin


    When a lesbian couple asked Andy Bathie for a sperm donation, they assured him that would be the end of his parental duties.


    But the women have since separated - and he is being ordered to pay for their children's upbringing. More than £5,000 a year is now being docked from the 37-year-old fireman's salary by the Child Support Agency to support Sharon and Terri Arnold's two young children

    Mr Bathie has met the four-year-old girl and two-year-old boy just a handful of times.
    The financial strain means he and his wife cannot afford to start a family of their own.
    He said yesterday: "It was a very expensive favour, considering I am going to be paying until the children are 18."
    His position is particularly galling because Sharon Arnold - who is not the children's biological mother - has no legal responsibility towards them, according to fertility law expert Natalie Gamble.
    "The law is struggling to keep up with these modern scenarios," she said.
    "Until things go wrong it's difficult to say how the law applies."
    Mr Bathie, from Enfield, North London, said: "Sharon and Terri had been together for two or three years when they decided they wanted kids and asked friends to help."
    He decided to donate his sperm because he had known Sharon, who is in her 30s, since they had dated as teenagers.
    She had already had two children by her ex-husband before realising she was a lesbian. Mr Bathie agreed to a home insemination, which resulted in Terri getting pregnant. Two years later, they repeated the arrangement.

    "Because I was still friends with them I would go down and see them and the kids would be there," he said.
    "It wasn't like I was going to see my son and daughter."
    But their friendship ended late last year when he got a call from Terri, telling him she and Sharon had split up.
    "The agreement was that there would be no name on the birth certificate and no money would be involved," Mr Bathie said.
    "But Terri said she wanted money and when I said no she said she would go to the CSA.
    "In November last year I heard from the CSA and the following month they started taking money - before there had even been a paternity test.
    "When it turned out I was the father they said they were going to take 40 per cent of my earnings.
    "I got that cut down a bit but I am now paying £450 a month until I pay off the arrears. Then it will drop to just below £400."
    He added: "I did look into the legal side and understood that, as a couple, they would be the parents, not me.
    "The only reason these children are here is because they wanted children as a couple - which means they would take responsibility.
    "I'm having money stolen by the Government."
    Anyone who donates sperm through a clinic licensed by the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority is given the legal status of "donor".
    This protects the man from any legal or financial responsibility towards the child.
    But this protection is not available for those who take part in home inseminations.
    A spokesman for the Authority said: "If you donate outside the licensed system you don't have legal protection, so you are essentially the father of the child and could be tracked down for CSA payments or anything of that nature."
    The Government has now introduced reforms which give equal parenting rights to same-sex couples who have had a civil partnership.
    This recognises them as the legal parents of any children who are conceived through sperm donation.
    The change comes too late for Mr Bathie, however, and he is calling for the law to be made retroactive. Sharon and Terri Arnold were not available for comment.
    This is just so wrong on so many levels. It's hard for me to believe a god fearing man like Tony Blair could have been fron "Singland'!
    Matthew:
    5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
    5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled
    10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
    10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.


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  • holymaster019
    Foul Sinner on Moderation
    • Dec 2007
    • 8

    #2
    Re: Another reason why gays shouldn't be allowed to have children

    Originally posted by eliot mayfield View Post
    This is what happens when gay people have kids. The state should take away every gay couples kids right now!
    This stunning image of a BMI Airbus flying past the moon was captured on Wednesday night. The aircraft are configured with a maximum of 130 seats in a flexible business/economy cabin




    This is just so wrong on so many levels. It's hard for me to believe a god fearing man like Tony Blair could have been fron "Singland'!
    how is donating sperm wrong? not only does it help people have children to bring forth into this world, but it also help keeps the economy going...because you get paid to do so. enlighten me mr mayfield, and please try to refrain from using the bible and ignorance and intolerance of gay people to support your claim of this "wrongdoing"

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    • eliot mayfield
      God Squad
      True Christian™
      • Sep 2006
      • 9324

      #3
      Re: Another reason why gays shouldn't be allowed to have children

      Originally posted by holymaster019 View Post
      how is donating sperm wrong? not only does it help people have children to bring forth into this world, but it also help keeps the economy going...because you get paid to do so. enlighten me mr mayfield, and please try to refrain from using the bible and ignorance and intolerance of gay people to support your claim of this "wrongdoing"
      I am a Christian. That is my principle of belief. How to you expect me to defend my beliefs without using the Bible?
      BTW, Mr. intelligent, he did it for free. They weren't married so that makes her a whore.
      YOU are as logical as a goldfish.
      The only thing keeping me from being biblical to gays is Jesus. He told us to obey seccular law. But just wait until we get the right supreme court!
      Matthew:
      5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
      5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled
      10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
      10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.


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      • Brother Temperance
        Senior Usher
        True Christian™ missionary to the Unsaved Kingdom
        A very nice young man
        True Christian™
        • Sep 2006
        • 15621

        #4
        Re: Another reason why gays shouldn't be allowed to have children

        Originally posted by holymaster019 View Post
        how is donating sperm wrong? not only does it help people have children to bring forth into this world, but it also help keeps the economy going...because you get paid to do so.
        If people want to have children, I'm all in favour of that, but only within a stable family setting. Otherwise they'll grow up twisted and liberal and wrong. As for "keeping the economy going", have you ever heard of these things called "jobs"? They're what people who want to keep the economy going without selling their manseed to perverts have.
        O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



        God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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        • Nobar King
          Municipal Code Archivist - Deuteronomy 28:58
          Christ's Guardian
          True Christian™
          • Sep 2007
          • 23748

          #5
          Re: Another reason why gays shouldn't be allowed to have children

          That's what you get for going against God's law. Even the government disapproves of this unholy process.
          May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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          • lord warrior
            Confirmed Enemy of God
            • Sep 2007
            • 406

            #6
            Re: Another reason why gays shouldn't be allowed to have children

            Originally posted by holymaster019 View Post
            how is donating sperm wrong? not only does it help people have children to bring forth into this world, but it also help keeps the economy going...because you get paid to do so. enlighten me mr mayfield, and please try to refrain from using the bible and ignorance and intolerance of gay people to support your claim of this "wrongdoing"
            How bout because donating means jerking off to porn. How many of God's commandments have you broken just by the donation process?

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            • Mr. Jingles
              Forum Member
              Forum Member
              • Aug 2007
              • 574

              #7
              Re: Another reason why gays shouldn't be allowed to have children

              Originally posted by lord warrior View Post
              How bout because donating means jerking off to porn. How many of God's commandments have you broken just by the donation process?
              Well, that act of onanism would have been acceptable if he was thinking about Ann Coulter at the time...

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              • Ed Gein
                Foul Sinner on Moderation
                • Dec 2007
                • 46

                #8
                Re: Another reason why gays shouldn't be allowed to have children

                all irrelevant responses. please refrain from using the bible and the commandments as documents of authority...because theyre not. and have you donated before? so youve actually jerked off to porn? half the time they dont even offer dirty mags...i know because ive donated. im a sinner.

                and as for jobs...what do you think i MEANT by keeping the economy going? people who donate sperm give people JOBS!

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                • lord warrior
                  Confirmed Enemy of God
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 406

                  #9
                  Re: Another reason why gays shouldn't be allowed to have children

                  Originally posted by Mr. Jingles View Post
                  Well, that act of onanism would have been acceptable if he was thinking about Ann Coulter at the time...
                  Still not allowed, and no including the lustful thought of one of God's true holy media types. Couple more comments like that could lead to banning.
                  Ann is one of the only true holy ghost inspired journalist in this country, bringing it for Jesus. And you go and desecrate her like that.

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                  • Mr. Jingles
                    Forum Member
                    Forum Member
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 574

                    #10
                    Re: Another reason why gays shouldn't be allowed to have children

                    Originally posted by lord warrior View Post
                    Still not allowed, and no including the lustful thought of one of God's true holy media types. Couple more comments like that could lead to banning.
                    Ann is one of the only true holy ghost inspired journalist in this country, bringing it for Jesus. And you go and desecrate her like that.
                    Point well taken; Godly Ann Coulter would NEVER approve of people having impure thoughts about her. In fact, that kind of lustful thinking is exactly what the demoncrats want.

                    I seem to be slipping in my faith; i'd better go grab my KJB & study it for the rest of the day.

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                    • Brother Temperance
                      Senior Usher
                      True Christian™ missionary to the Unsaved Kingdom
                      A very nice young man
                      True Christian™
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 15621

                      #11
                      Re: Another reason why gays shouldn't be allowed to have children

                      Originally posted by Ed Gein View Post
                      all irrelevant responses. please refrain from using the bible and the commandments as documents of authority...because theyre not.
                      They're commandments from God. They're pretty much the definition of authority.
                      and have you donated before? so youve actually jerked off to porn?
                      Of course not. Are you going to suggest we should try heroin next?
                      and as for jobs...what do you think i MEANT by keeping the economy going? people who donate sperm give people JOBS!
                      You could say the same thing about crackdealers. Murderers are wonderful at drumming up business for the burial industry, and harlots sleeping around give Jewish abortionists jobs. I suppose you think that's all fine and dandy too?
                      O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



                      God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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